1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

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What's the biggest thing on your mind during 1L year?

The curve
21
18%
The opposite sex
23
19%
Jobs (or lack of jobs)
32
27%
Exams
21
18%
Home(sickness)
3
3%
The material
3
3%
Getting called on
7
6%
Vacation
3
3%
General (and borderline irrational) frustration/fear
7
6%
 
Total votes: 120

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1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Verity » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:30 pm

One semester down, what's your biggest like and dislike about law school?

Mine first:

Like that the first semester is over.

Dislike reading.

*EDIT: New poll.
Last edited by Verity on Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:54 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby bhan87 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:32 pm

Likes:

Classmates
Professors
Lunchtime Speakers

Dislikes:

The curve

Pretty neutral about reading and the workload

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby D'Angelo » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:06 pm

bhan87 wrote:Likes:

Classmates
Professors
Lunchtime Speakers

Dislikes:

The curve

Pretty neutral about reading and the workload

pretty much this! our workload is not too bad...

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby cinephile » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:05 pm

Likes:
Professors
Free lunches
Location
Career Services
Undergrad Facilities

Dislikes:
Nerdy law school jokes (I don't mind people who actually love law school and make nerdy jokes, just people who pretend to and try too hard)
People who try too hard
The curve
The cost of tuition

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby FlanAl » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:10 pm

I dislike the curve and the economy combination. I think if everyone was guaranteed some kind of job at the end it would mellow a lot of people out. I feel like the people who desperately want vault could sort of just be competitive on their own and the rest of us could not. But as it stands we kind of all have to be a little more competitive than I'd like.

I also wish there were smaller professor led discussion sections outside of the large classes.

Overall I think I like it but its been two weeks so maybe I just forgot haha

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby NYC Law » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:20 pm

Likes:
-Not as much work as it was made out to be
-The material
-The professors (some)

Dislikes:
-The professors
-Cliques
-Gunners
-Facilities
-The Curve
-The Economy/Lack of Jobs
-Curve Graded LRW
-Strivers
-Stupid Law Jokes
-Anything related to legally blonde or elle woods
-Cost
-Stress
-The food
-The argumentative types

Oddly enough I think I overall like it more than dislike, I just have plenty to complain about.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Ludo! » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:43 pm

What is a striver and how does it differ from a gunner?

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby cinephile » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:52 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:What is a striver and how does it differ from a gunner?


I thought a gunner was someone who raised their hand often in class, while a striver is someone who brags on facebook about getting kicked out of the library at closing time.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby NYC Law » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:54 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:What is a striver and how does it differ from a gunner?


When I think of gunner I think of the more traditional classroom gunner - hand goes up every 1-2 mins, usually tangentially related, stupid hypos, stupid jokes, bombards prof after class, etc.

Striver is more just someone that goes overboard generally, though perhaps not in class. Especially the ones that take the competitiveness too seriously - ie refusing to help out a classmate with a question (encountered several of those), 10 colored highlights and book tabs in even a basic research class, taking notes during stupid school presentations, recording every lecture, etc.

It's a fine distinction, but I believe it's there.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Ludo! » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:54 pm

Ah ok. I just lump both of those things in with gunner so I only have to hate one group. But I see your point.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby keg411 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:00 pm

Ask Grizz what a striver is :lol:.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:03 pm

Likes:

Teh lawcest

Dislikes:

Job applications and cover letters
Waiting over 6 weeks for profs to grade exams

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby lisjjen » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:06 pm

Likes:

Professors in my substantive classes
Intellectually challenging material
The idea of a career where you make decisions that have weight
cool classmates

Dislikes:

uncool classmates
[*]kids who ask where you went to school just so you ask them and they can tell you they went to Harvard/Stanford/Brown
[*]kids who play mind games to intimidate their classmates, even after finals are over
[*]kids with a spring loaded arm

LRW professor. Not the class, the professor. The moving targets and busywork

The curve. Always the curve.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby jessuf » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:31 pm

Likes:
-the professors
-the 3.5 week long winter break
-not having to work full-time while in school like i did in undergrad and grad school
-no classes before 10am
-fridays off
-free lunch everyday if i hop around from one club meeting to another

Dislikes
-cost of tuition
-being super poor before the next semester's check
-waiting for grades
-gunners who drive me to sit on facebook and sporcle in class
-lack of income to buy cool things and travel

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby jessuf » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:31 pm

+1 the curve, of course

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby crossarmant » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:05 pm

Likes:
The subject matter and the ambiguity of the exams
Many of the professors

Dislikes:
Location
Cost
Fellow students
Distance from friends and family
Economy
Anxiety attacks

Despite the dislikes outnumbering the likes, I do actually like law school. I just get perpetually annoyed whenever I hear a story of someone who says "Yeah, I wasn't really thinking of being a lawyer, but someone suggested law school, so I figured 'why not'?" That and coming from a science and engineering undergrad school and all of my friends being science folks, it's incredibly annoying being surrounded by slews of pretentious English majors who 'surprisingly' couldn't find work after UG.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Naked Dude » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:42 pm

Likes:
Workload and "different way of thinking" were way overhyped
some great professors
material not as interesting, but also not as hard, as I thought, so...neutral?

Dislikes:
cryptic feedback in LRW
graded LRW
the contingent of douchecanoes/cliques
class size
how, when the semester heats up, it feels very insular and you're driven to monomania (though applies to grad/professional school in general I guess)
useless casebooks (i.e. all of them)
Socratic Method (not because I'm afraid of being called on, but because I think it's massively overrated, especially in a gigantic class)
the curve and your entire grade being based on a 3 hour essay exam
economy
friday afternoon classes

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Gettingstarted1928 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:28 pm

What are these cliques everyone speaks of? Is it like high school or something?

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby D'Angelo » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:31 pm

Gettingstarted1928 wrote:What are these cliques everyone speaks of? Is it like high school or something?

it is exactly like high school!

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Gettingstarted1928 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:33 pm

D'Angelo wrote:
Gettingstarted1928 wrote:What are these cliques everyone speaks of? Is it like high school or something?

it is exactly like high school!


LOL. So basically a bunch of nerds starting up a popular group?

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby cinephile » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:34 pm

I thought it was like middle school.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby crossarmant » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:37 pm

cinephile wrote:I thought it was like middle school.


+1

Except with a sense of entitlement.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Naked Dude » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:46 pm

Gettingstarted1928 wrote:What are these cliques everyone speaks of? Is it like high school or something?


Yes. There are even locker's for god's sake.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby NYC Law » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:48 pm

I absent mindedly did one arguably dick move last semester towards a girl, now I have 5 different people shunning me.

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Re: 1Ls: Likes/Dislikes about law school

Postby Sentience » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:49 pm

Likes:
-not having to go to a 9-5 job, sitting in a cubicle, doing inconsequential bullshit.

Dislikes:
-worrying about not having a better job after law school.




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