Would you tell the professor if...

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Would you tell the professor if...

Postby AJaKe » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:52 pm

So my law school friend and I were taking an exam at her house. It was a three-hour "take home", open notes and all that. We had studied together in the morning and just decided to take it together at her dining room table with a "Chinese wall" type of set up, so we wouldn't be colluding.

Test turn-in time comes around and the system to turn it in goes down. I freak, e-mail mine to the professor's secretary and e-mail student affairs. She has only done 2 of the 4 questions so she continues to type without attempting to turn it in at all. 30 minutes later the Dean sends an e-mail to the class about the problems submitting and says to submit it to the secretary. 45 minutes after that my friend turns in her paper, having managed to complete the last 2 questions.

The end of the day the Professor sends an e-mail saying that all the papers were considered "timely" turned in. I honestly don't know how this can be. The friend has no medical reason, no extra time allowed.

Do you think you would have an ethical obligation to say something, or is it just one of those things you should just let go?

What would you do?

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby theavrock » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:54 pm

you should probably tell Joe Paterno

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby southernsnapp » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:57 pm

Was it ok for yall to be taking the exam together? Even if yall weren’t collaborating on answers, your friend might say you were out of spite.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:58 pm

How do you know that your friend had only done 2 of 4 questions ?


Are you subject to any Honor Code pledge ?
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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby thesealocust » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:58 pm

Snitches get stitches.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby Holly Golightly » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:00 pm

Leave it alone. Don't be a law student. That's up the the prof/his secretary, not you trying to screw someone over.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby thesealocust » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:02 pm

Holly Golightly wrote: Don't be a law student.


I think I might end all of my posts from now on with this quote.

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Holly Golightly wrote: Don't be a law student.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby legends159 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:02 pm

prof doesn't care, why should you? don't be that person

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby AJaKe » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:03 pm

When I turned mine in, I told her that I e-mailed mine to the secretary and she told me that she only had 2/4 done.

I checked the honor code and it doesn't affirmatively require us to turn in someone who we know cheated on exams

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby dood » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:07 pm

AJaKe wrote:So my law school friend and I were taking an exam at her house. It was a three-hour "take home", open notes and all that. We had studied together in the morning and just decided to take it together at her dining room table with a "Chinese wall" type of set up, so we wouldn't be colluding.

Test turn-in time comes around and the system to turn it in goes down. I freak, e-mail mine to the professor's secretary and e-mail student affairs. She has only done 2 of the 4 questions so she continues to type without attempting to turn it in at all. 30 minutes later the Dean sends an e-mail to the class about the problems submitting and says to submit it to the secretary. 45 minutes after that my friend turns in her paper, having managed to complete the last 2 questions.

The end of the day the Professor sends an e-mail saying that all the papers were considered "timely" turned in. I honestly don't know how this can be. The friend has no medical reason, no extra time allowed.

Do you think you would have an ethical obligation to say something, or is it just one of those things you should just let go?

What would you do?


i assure u a "chinese wall" defense is not going to save u. if u think u RATTING out ur friend is worth u also FAILING and a honor code violation on ur transcript - then go ahead.

edit: what would i do? not be a fucking cheater then rat out my co-cheater.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby Geist13 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:10 pm

I wouldn't say anything. I also probably wouldn't ever interact with that person again. If they asked why, I would say "cause you're a fucking dishonest person; I should have turned you in, but that shit is overdramatic."

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby AreJay711 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:11 pm

dood wrote:
AJaKe wrote:So my law school friend and I were taking an exam at her house. It was a three-hour "take home", open notes and all that. We had studied together in the morning and just decided to take it together at her dining room table with a "Chinese wall" type of set up, so we wouldn't be colluding.

Test turn-in time comes around and the system to turn it in goes down. I freak, e-mail mine to the professor's secretary and e-mail student affairs. She has only done 2 of the 4 questions so she continues to type without attempting to turn it in at all. 30 minutes later the Dean sends an e-mail to the class about the problems submitting and says to submit it to the secretary. 45 minutes after that my friend turns in her paper, having managed to complete the last 2 questions.

The end of the day the Professor sends an e-mail saying that all the papers were considered "timely" turned in. I honestly don't know how this can be. The friend has no medical reason, no extra time allowed.

Do you think you would have an ethical obligation to say something, or is it just one of those things you should just let go?

What would you do?


i assure u a "chinese wall" defense is not going to save u. if u think u RATTING out ur friend is worth u also FAILING and a honor code violation on ur transcript - then go ahead.

edit: what would i do? not be a fucking cheater then rat out my co-cheater.


This

thesealocust wrote:Snitches get stitches.


and this.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby BlueDiamond » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:12 pm

didnt read the other comments.. but id be a better friend and stop complaining.. if you would have just emailed the professor you coulda kept working too.. sounds like thats your bad

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby bk1 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:12 pm

I don't think "friend" was the word you meant to use.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby johansantana21 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:14 pm

Is this serious?

It's your FRIEND. God, stop being such gunnerish douchebags.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby bartleby » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:15 pm

don't narc

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby GATORTIM » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:16 pm

OP, you have serious life issues if you are even considering turning in your "friend". I would be more concerned with getting those ironed out.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby dood » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:19 pm

ITT: TLS takes out post-finals frustration on AJaKe's butthole.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby Ludo! » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:20 pm

It's unfair but there's nothing you can do. Sounds like because of the technical difficulties the prof decided not to penalize anyone for being late. That meant your friend got extra time. It sucks, but you're not gonna get anything by turning them in.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby jessuf » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:21 pm

Geist13 wrote:I wouldn't say anything. I also probably wouldn't ever interact with that person again. If they asked why, I would say "cause you're a fucking dishonest person; I should have turned you in, but that shit is overdramatic."


this.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby AJaKe » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:22 pm

dood wrote:ITT: TLS takes out post-finals frustration on AJaKe's butthole.


lol

Apparently people feel really strongly about this. I just didn't know if I should have said something or not - geez, people.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby AJaKe » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:23 pm

Geist13 wrote:I wouldn't say anything. I also probably wouldn't ever interact with that person again. If they asked why, I would say "cause you're a fucking dishonest person; I should have turned you in, but that shit is overdramatic."


I think I agree with this response the most, I mean - they're a friend, but that was just shady.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby johansantana21 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:23 pm

AJaKe wrote:
dood wrote:ITT: TLS takes out post-finals frustration on AJaKe's butthole.


lol

Apparently people feel really strongly about this. I just didn't know if I should have said something or not - geez, people.


It's your FRIEND.

Even if this is a 30 person section, 1 person having an unfair advantage such as 30 extra minutes probably won't fucking ruin your curve.

You're really pathetic if you actually consider turning in a friend over this.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby luthersloan » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:24 pm

Since when was it a "serious issue" to believe in justice? The guilty deserve to be punished, unless of course they are clients.

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Re: Would you tell the professor if...

Postby sundance95 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:25 pm

TCR is blackmail.




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