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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby NYC Law » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:59 pm

Lasers wrote:
kapital98 wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
kapital98 wrote:Now grades are in and a lot of people didn't do very well and they don't want to talk about grades... AT ALL. The people who wanted biglaw or to transfer to Berkeley are now all quiet. Some people have already dropped out or just stopped showing up to class.

Yeah, our section has lost three people :( One of them though, as far as I know, didn't drop out because of bad grades, but just because law school hasn't really been what he thought it would be.


One person in our section dropped out before finals. Everyone else, they can say what they want but I'm sure grades were a significant factor.

If your hearts not into it and you don't have the grades then by all means you should not continue attending law school. It's hard to imagine someone walking away if they're in the top half of the class.

that's weird.

my section is full of gunners and everyone seems to have done well...which can't be possible. seriously, all the gunners are still gunning, and everyone else seems to be really confident. i think we only had one drop out. it's kind of surprising. it's also kind of funny cause most people probably think i did poorly.


Our classroom gunners are gunning 200x harder than ever before, with much much stupider shit. My best guess is that they got poor grades last semester and just figured they weren't gunning hard enough.

and LS-bound - yeah I'm sure it is better there. The older people in my section are really laid back and chill for the most part (I imagine Evening is mostly older folk)

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby ilovesf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:04 am

Lasers wrote:that's weird.

my section is full of gunners and everyone seems to have done well...which can't be possible. seriously, all the gunners are still gunning, and everyone else seems to be really confident. i think we only had one drop out. it's kind of surprising. it's also kind of funny cause most people probably think i did poorly.

I think we have the same gunners. I have no idea how they did, but they're still gunning away.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby lawyerwannabe » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:25 pm

What is the point in being a gunner? Sure, class participation is good but only to a point; teachers have explicitly said they value quality of participation and not quantity.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby bk1 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:39 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:What is the point in being a gunner? Sure, class participation is good but only to a point; teachers have explicitly said they value quality of participation and not quantity.


Some people suffer from incurable burgers.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby sundance95 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:39 pm

r6_philly wrote:it's the pointlessness of law school that's eating at me. I'd rather be doing doc/code review. Seriously.

No offense, r6, but this is ridiculous and it's pretty clear you've never done doc coding. It's not exactly an activity that makes you feel like you have a purpose in life.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:51 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:What is the point in being a gunner? Sure, class participation is good but only to a point; teachers have explicitly said they value quality of participation and not quantity.


Gunning is annoying, but it's valuable to make sure some professors know who you are, so you have people to ask for references. Also, inevitably, come clerkship time, the more professors who you can have making phone calls for you, the better. This is best done by occasional class participation and office hours, instead of incessant class participation. I target one professor per semester to try to reach LOR quality with.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby r6_philly » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:08 pm

sundance95 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:it's the pointlessness of law school that's eating at me. I'd rather be doing doc/code review. Seriously.

No offense, r6, but this is ridiculous and it's pretty clear you've never done doc coding. It's not exactly an activity that makes you feel like you have a purpose in life.


My purpose in life doesn't have to be derived from work, so it's ok regardless of what I do for work (I do plenty outside of work/school to give me purpose). I am used to putting in my 8/10/12 hours a day to be productive and make a living, which I am not doing right now.

ETA, I am ok with code review, which is most likely as mind numbing as doc review.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby cinephile » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:21 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:What is the point in being a gunner? Sure, class participation is good but only to a point; teachers have explicitly said they value quality of participation and not quantity.


I thought people just liked hearing the sound of their own voice.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby kapital98 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:13 pm

ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote:that's weird.

my section is full of gunners and everyone seems to have done well...which can't be possible. seriously, all the gunners are still gunning, and everyone else seems to be really confident. i think we only had one drop out. it's kind of surprising. it's also kind of funny cause most people probably think i did poorly.

I think we have the same gunners. I have no idea how they did, but they're still gunning away.


Some have shut up. I won't name names but I know at least one blatant gunner who talked in almost every single class last semester who now only occasionally speaks. He's also gone back to LEOP tutoring, after leaving in the middle of last semester, so that's probably an indication of doing poorly. It's too humiliating to do that without a really good reason.

Nevertheless, new gunners may be on the rise. One of my friends told me I'm more of a gunner this semester. I think she's wrong but then again a gunner doesn't know their actually being a gunner :|

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby jessuf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Dean's list was posted today. Only two people from my section on it, me being one of them and a gunner the other. Apparently a lot of people have been talking about me behind my back, calling me a sniper. I'm sorry, but since when did being the opposite of a gunner become a negative thing? I'm sorry I only speak once per class and not five million times.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby bdubs » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:14 pm

Jessuf wrote:Dean's list was posted today. Only two people from my section on it, me being one of them and a gunner the other. Apparently a lot of people have been talking about me behind my back, calling me a sniper. I'm sorry, but since when did being the opposite of a gunner become a negative thing? I'm sorry I only speak once per class and not five million times.


What kind of school does this? I am pretty sure that dean's list at my school is just a meaningless distinction that goes on your transcript when you have a semester GPA above 3.5

No one ever knows if you're on the dean's list nor should they know, unless they are trying to hire you.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:22 pm

Jessuf wrote:Dean's list was posted today. Only two people from my section on it, me being one of them and a gunner the other. Apparently a lot of people have been talking about me behind my back, calling me a sniper. I'm sorry, but since when did being the opposite of a gunner become a negative thing? I'm sorry I only speak once per class and not five million times.

An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby jessuf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:34 pm

bdubs wrote:
What kind of school does this? I am pretty sure that dean's list at my school is just a meaningless distinction that goes on your transcript when you have a semester GPA above 3.5

No one ever knows if you're on the dean's list nor should they know, unless they are trying to hire you.


My school has dean's list and honor roll. Dean's list is top 5%, honor roll is 6%-25%. For some reason, they e-mail the names of people out to all of the students. I don't get the point of publishing it other than for feeding superiority complexes, making others feel bad, and inviting people to gossip. I'd rather just fade into the background.

Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:40 pm

Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.

We'd all like to think that, but most douches aren't that self-aware.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby birdlaw117 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:42 pm

Haymarket wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.

We'd all like to think that, but most douches aren't that self-aware.

I'm certainly not that self-aware. Also, I'm definitely a douche. So there you have it.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby NYC Law » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:45 pm

Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.


It's still just incredibly weird that they'd post that out in the open. And then to talk about you fairly openly in LRW... it does sound like you have it pretty rough, sorry :\

And my last ex baked me red velvet cupcakes on my bday :(

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby jessuf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:51 pm

NYC Law wrote:And my last ex baked me red velvet cupcakes on my bday :(


i LOVE these. my current SO made me nothing. i had to grill my own steak.


Completely unrelated - at my school, professors are allowed to bump up or down grades by .25 for participation. Is this common with other schools? My con law professor said he generally bumps up 10-12 people's grades, so people go crazy in that class, talking about the most off-the-wall things.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Guchster » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:02 pm

birdlaw117 wrote:
Haymarket wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.

We'd all like to think that, but most douches aren't that self-aware.

I'm certainly not that self-aware. Also, I'm definitely a douche. So there you have it.


same.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby johansantana21 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:02 pm

What kind of TTT emails to the entire student body the top 5% of the class?

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Guchster » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:04 pm

johansantana21 wrote:What kind of TTT emails to the entire student body the top 5% of the class?


lol'd

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby birdlaw117 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:05 pm

johansantana21 wrote:What kind of TTT emails to the entire student body the top 5% of the class?

The best kind.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Guchster » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:06 pm

NYC Law wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.


It's still just incredibly weird that they'd post that out in the open. And then to talk about you fairly openly in LRW... it does sound like you have it pretty rough, sorry :\

And my last ex baked me red velvet cupcakes on my bday :(


damn you nyc law. i'm going to ditch reading tonight cuz now i'm thinking about sneaking off to crumbs on 92nd to buyz cupcakes.

recommendations?

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby NYC Law » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:14 pm

Jessuf wrote:
NYC Law wrote:And my last ex baked me red velvet cupcakes on my bday :(


i LOVE these. my current SO made me nothing. i had to grill my own steak.


Completely unrelated - at my school, professors are allowed to bump up or down grades by .25 for participation. Is this common with other schools? My con law professor said he generally bumps up 10-12 people's grades, so people go crazy in that class, talking about the most off-the-wall things.


At my school most professors say they give a 1 step change due to participation (i.e. from a B+ to an A-, one even said he took someone from an A to A+ because of participation). I only had one professor last semester that put it in the syllabus that he does that, but this semester all of my professors say it, it's been gunner hell. At least the majority of the class is beginning to get visibly upset with our most egregious gunner, so someone will surely say something to him sooner or later....

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby NYC Law » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:14 pm

Guchster wrote:
NYC Law wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
Haymarket wrote:An average poster would insert a meme about haters and the proclivity for hating. But not me.

If you care what people have been saying, then speak less or at least less douchetastically. If you don't, then fuck them. I don't know how you are in class, so I'm not sure which of you is being unreasonable, though the default probably goes to the crowd's judgment.


Haha. I'd like to think I'm not a douche. I usually don't care, but I think I am annoyed because it's my birthday and didn't really want a text from my friend that everyone in his LRW class was talking about me and not in regards to how awesome it is that I was born or how they baked me red velvet cupcakes.


It's still just incredibly weird that they'd post that out in the open. And then to talk about you fairly openly in LRW... it does sound like you have it pretty rough, sorry :\

And my last ex baked me red velvet cupcakes on my bday :(


damn you nyc law. i'm going to ditch reading tonight cuz now i'm thinking about sneaking off to crumbs on 92nd to buyz cupcakes.

recommendations?


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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby johansantana21 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:15 pm

I've always thought that professors just say they will boost or decrease some people based on class participation but never did it.




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