1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Dany » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:40 pm

birdlaw117 wrote:But the real question is why they went to the 86 point scale or the 186 point scale rather than just A, B, C when they weren't being judged comparably to students from other schools.

I'm about 186% sure that was just law students doing what they do best: complaining.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Xifeng » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:41 pm

NYC Law wrote:That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. It just sounds like they're trying too hard to be different for no real reason.


Haymarket wrote:
birdlaw117 wrote:But the real question is why they went to the 86 point scale or the 186 point scale rather than just A, B, C when they weren't being judged comparably to students from other schools.

Numbers are more precise then letters. HTH.


There's one answer to both of you: it's more rigorous this way.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby fatduck » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:42 pm

i'd much rather have numbers than letters

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby NYC Law » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:42 pm

You can never have enough rigor

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby birdlaw117 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:43 pm

Haymarket wrote:
birdlaw117 wrote:But the real question is why they went to the 86 point scale or the 186 point scale rather than just A, B, C when they weren't being judged comparably to students from other schools.

Numbers are more precise then letters. HTH.

Yeah, but generally that hurts students. That's why Stanford's system that makes determining below median so beneficial.

I mean, it clearly hasn't been an issue for you guys with placement, so there isn't a reason to change it. I just don't understand the rationale to begin with.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby birdlaw117 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:43 pm

Xifeng wrote:There's one answer to both of you: it's more rigorous this way.

:lol: You win.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:45 pm

birdlaw117 wrote:
Haymarket wrote:
birdlaw117 wrote:But the real question is why they went to the 86 point scale or the 186 point scale rather than just A, B, C when they weren't being judged comparably to students from other schools.

Numbers are more precise then letters. HTH.

Yeah, but generally that hurts students. That's why Stanford's system that makes determining below median so beneficial.

I mean, it clearly hasn't been an issue for you guys with placement, so there isn't a reason to change it. I just don't understand the rationale to begin with.

They should probably just give us all smiley faces or frowney faces. That would help students even more. :|

Grades are meant to signal how well you're doing. Numbers are more precise then letter grades which are more precise then H/P/F. Chicago prefers raw numbers at the expense of students' fee fees I guess.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Helmholtz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:47 pm

NYC Law wrote:That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. It just sounds like they're trying too hard to be different for no real reason.


I used to think so too, but it's actually been pretty effective in keeping out of the insane race to a 4.0-median curve headed by Northwestern and Cornell. We never have to explain that, yes, in fact, a B+ here is a like an A- at Northwestern, etc.

Non-law-school students who take law-school classes get this scale as an approximation:

184 to 186 = A+
182 to 183 = A
180 to 181 = A-
178 to 179 = B+
177 = B
174 to 176 = B-
172 to 173 = C+
170 to 171 = C
168 to 169 = C-
166 to 167 = D+
163 to 165 = D
160 to 162 = D-
155 to 159 = F

At the time of graduation, it shakes out to something like this: 182 = so rare somebody only graduates with this GPA once every few years; 180.5 = top 3-4 percent of the class; 179 = top 20 percent of the class.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby birdlaw117 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:49 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
NYC Law wrote:That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. It just sounds like they're trying too hard to be different for no real reason.


I used to think so too, but it's actually been pretty effective in keeping out of the insane race to a 4.0-median curve headed by Northwestern and Cornell. We never have to explain that, yes, in fact, a B+ here is a like an A- at Northwestern, etc.

This is some reasoning I can get behind.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:50 pm

Stanford transcript:

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby crossarmant » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Civ Pro grade just came in: A- Why am I upset at the minus?


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Hahaha, No, I guess it's bullshit. I don't know, I've always kind of just coasted through school and done just barely enough to get by and I thought "Hey, if you actually try your hardest nothing can stop you from being the best. I mean, it's good, but now I'm like "I could've done better... yada yada." You spend so much time in your head speculating and I guess when I checked, I was in the mindset of "I can take on the world"; if it were one of those moodswings of "I'm a miserable failure" I'd have been estatic.

Sorry.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Xifeng » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:54 pm

crossarmant wrote:
Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Civ Pro grade just came in: A- Why am I upset at the minus?


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Hahaha, No, I guess it's bullshit. I don't know, I've always kind of just coasted through school and done just barely enough to get by and I thought "Hey, if you actually try your hardest nothing can stop you from being the best. I mean, it's good, but now I'm like "I could've done better... yada yada." You spend so much time in your head speculating and I guess when I checked, I was in the mindset of "I can take on the world"; if it were one of those moodswings of "I'm a miserable failure" I'd have been estatic.

Sorry.


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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby fatduck » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:56 pm

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby thelaststraw05 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:56 pm

crossarmant wrote:
Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Civ Pro grade just came in: A- Why am I upset at the minus?


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Hahaha, No, I guess it's bullshit. I don't know, I've always kind of just coasted through school and done just barely enough to get by and I thought "Hey, if you actually try your hardest nothing can stop you from being the best. I mean, it's good, but now I'm like "I could've done better... yada yada." You spend so much time in your head speculating and I guess when I checked, I was in the mindset of "I can take on the world"; if it were one of those moodswings of "I'm a miserable failure" I'd have been estatic.

Sorry.


Wow. Just stop.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:57 pm

Let that boy cook dig.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Guchster » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:01 pm

crossarmant wrote:
Hahaha, No, I guess it's bullshit. I don't know, I've always kind of just coasted through school and done just barely enough to get by and I thought "Hey, if you actually try your hardest nothing can stop you from being the best. I mean, it's good, but now I'm like "I could've done better... yada yada." You spend so much time in your head speculating and I guess when I checked, I was in the mindset of "I can take on the world"; if it were one of those moodswings of "I'm a miserable failure" I'd have been estatic.

Sorry.



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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby johansantana21 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:06 pm

Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Civ Pro grade just came in: A- Why am I upset at the minus?


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I got an A+ but another student also got an A+ and he got the CALI award instead of me...Why am I upset?

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby LawMan20 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:08 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Civ Pro grade just came in: A- Why am I upset at the minus?


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I got an A+ but another student also got an A+ and he got the CALI award instead of me...Why am I upset?


I was kinda disappointed when I found out I got a 4.0 but no CALI awards, so I know where you're coming from. I went and drank the pain away, though, and I've since recovered.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Helmholtz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:12 pm

Wat the fuck is a CALI award?

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:13 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Wat the fuck is a CALI award?

It's the unpreftigious award for booking a class. Only about half of law schools use them (guess which half).

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Guchster » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:14 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Wat the fuck is a CALI award?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cali+award

good game.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:17 pm

Guchster wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Wat the fuck is a CALI award?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cali+award

good game.

Is LMGTFYing a mod really an exercise of your soundest judgment?

I call for an arbitrary and capricious temp ban, for the lulz.

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby fatduck » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:20 pm

Haymarket wrote:I call for an arbitrary and capricious temp ban, for the lulz.

see you tomorrow

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby fatduck » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:20 pm

shit wrong account

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Re: 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread

Postby Haymarket » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:22 pm

fatduck wrote:shit wrong account

Is it mod password season already?




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