What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

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What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Addy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:53 pm

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Kabuo » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:54 pm

Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Grizz » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:01 pm

Well I'm at VanderbilTTT so my plan is to preemptively apply for food stamps and start picking out a nice cardboard box.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby IrwinM.Fletcher » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:12 pm

Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Danteshek » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:19 pm

Not looking at Legal jobs anymore really. I've switched my focus to asset management compliance. I worked in the industry before law school.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:47 pm

Top 1% and biglaw or /self. Only options.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby c3pO4 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:50 pm

Lol. Gameplan is to laugh all the way to the bank. Plenty of us non-T14 students have great boutique, V100, or gov jobs lined up. Sorry you T-14'ers thought you had a ticket to biglaw... turns out there are no guarantees. But if thinking about all the non-T14 students on food stamps or killing self makes you feel better, go for it.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby dreakol » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:51 pm

Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby shock259 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:05 pm

Debt-free, so I don't need biglaw. Just something. Catering LS experience to JAG. If that fails, I'm at the top school in a secondary market, so with enough legwork, I'll find something. Eventually. I have enough savings to last a while on my own. If all else fails, I'll move back with my mom until I can get something.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby dailygrind » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:15 pm

IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.


I'm looking for a few witty sidekicks. It changes it from a horror to a comedy sequence, which greatly increases my chances of survival.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby joeshmo39 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:20 pm

dreakol wrote:
Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)


Dood who doesn't understand that's not really true. Everyone sees you as a flight risk. Also, it seems like a bad investment to get a 200k degree then go into a field where that degree isn't required or as valued as the actual practice of law.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby JamMasterJ » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:22 pm

dreakol wrote:
Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

facepalm

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby top30man » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:26 pm

joeshmo39 wrote:
dreakol wrote:
Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)


Dood who doesn't understand that's not really true. Everyone sees you as a flight risk. Also, it seems like a bad investment to get a 200k degree then go into a field where that degree isn't required or as valued as the actual practice of law.

This. It might have been true a couple decades ago, but a JD isnt the key to industry it used to be.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby JamMasterJ » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:29 pm

dailygrind wrote:
IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.


I'm looking for a few witty sidekicks. It changes it from a horror to a comedy sequence, which greatly increases my chances of survival.

Zombieland fucking rules

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Kabuo » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:29 pm

Holy surprisingly successful trolling, dreakol.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Extension_Cord » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:34 pm

The way I see it, I will graduate without any debt so I probably wont be in a worse position then if I didn't decide to go to law school. I was conscious of the crappy job market long before I decided to go to law school and prepared accordingly. I wasn't going to pay 40k a year + living expenses to go to a T25 school, in my opinion it wasnt worth it.

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Postby dreakol » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:37 pm

Kabuo wrote:Holy surprisingly successful trolling, dreakol.
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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby dreakol » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:45 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
dreakol wrote:
Addy wrote:I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?


(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

facepalm


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Postby SwampRat88 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:39 pm

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Postby leacha5 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:47 pm

SwampRat88 wrote:Get median grades and be fine because my s/o is a MD.

+1

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Kendi » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:16 pm

I am not sure if passing up the T-14 will turn out to be a misstep, or not. One problem with the T-14 is that they are mostly located in the dreary north where the COL is extreme. Let me add that there are major city Universities respected by their community, in spite of being Tier 1/2.

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Postby 071816 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:29 pm

Addy wrote:if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?



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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Addy » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:01 am

1L at MVP. Stressing because of the exams (and the dreaded curve). . . given the economy I am not alone. The fact that I am at a T-14, with a generous scholarship, takes a bit of the edge off. If I were here at sticker, or somewhere other than T-14, the needle would peg bright red on the stress meter.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby DocHawkeye » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:08 am

I plan to work in a market that nobody in the T-14 remembers is out there where the pay is low but the cost of living is even lower. FTW.

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Re: What is the game plan of non T-14 students?

Postby Grizz » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:09 am

Addy wrote:1L at MVP. Stressing because of the exams (and the dreaded curve). . . given the economy I am not alone. The fact that I am at a T-14, with a generous scholarship, takes a bit of the edge off. If I were here at sticker, or somewhere other than T-14, the needle would peg bright red on the stress meter.

LOL lots of T14 people strike out, especially the type who exhibit the assburgers to make threads like this. U mad?




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