Might actually fail the MPRE

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby ExAnt3 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:24 pm

Is there a filled out copy of the MPRE outline floating around somewhere? I watched the video thinking that I wouldn't need to fill in the blanks and now I am majorly regretting that decision.

edit: I am talking about the Barbri outline

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby rayiner » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:01 am

FWIW I didn't end up passing the first time. I took it again in March. I passed, but I only got 117 after studying really hard, which is a little sad.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby somewhatwayward » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:21 am

rayiner wrote:FWIW I didn't end up passing the first time. I took it again in March. I passed, but I only got 117 after studying really hard, which is a little sad.


How much did you study for the first time? I inexplicably went from 50/60 on the first practice test I took on Tuesday to 40/60 on the practice test I took yesterday. These are the BarBri practice tests, which I am hoping are harder than the real one. In 95% of the problems, I recognize the issue and know the rule that should be applied, but that is not enough to get it right....you need to know the details of the rules, and sometimes you need to have some outside legal knowledge as well.

As far as taking twice, though, your firm didn't care, right?

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby dresden doll » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:35 am

rayiner wrote:FWIW I didn't end up passing the first time. I took it again in March. I passed, but I only got 117 after studying really hard, which is a little sad.

That's because lofty ethics isn't intuitive to you. Wasn't intuitive to me either.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby I.P. Daly » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:13 am

somewhatwayward wrote:As far as taking twice, though, your firm didn't care, right?


There might be issues if your licensure gets delayed.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Gamecubesupreme » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:06 pm

What is this, people actually failed the MPRE?

Damn it, I'm taking it tomorrow and I have not done any reading or preparation yet.

Time to get started...

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby vanwinkle » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:20 pm

I forgot to start studying until two and a half days before the test, and ended up scoring well above the minimum.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Omerta » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:50 pm

I'm gonna lay some truth down on you. Unless you're 100% sure there's some weird exception involved (judge, model law, family law, criminal defendant), just get the answer requiring the broadest disclosure. Also, the more sympathetic the facts are, the more likely the right answer seems like the morally incorrect thing to do (e.g., lawyer finds out client molested daughter, can't lie to client then call CPS even to prevent harm to child/ something helps an oil company to the detriment of native indians or whatever). Doing the above pretty much guarantees a passing score.


Took two practice tests, got a 39/60 and 43/60. Finished both in less than 1 hour.
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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:55 pm

Just started 10 minutes ago. I got 1/1 pratices questsions right. Going to 2.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Omerta » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:01 pm

I can't even explain how proud I would be if I got exactly an 85.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby kalvano » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:53 pm

I thought I was going to fail, because I didn't study and those tests always seem very subjective to me. The BarBri vid and some practice questions got me well more than I needed to pass.

And I finished so fast the proctor thought I was messing with her.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby thesealocust » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:04 pm

Reading the actual model rules doesn't take long and is quite helpful. The questions often test you on the law-like parts of the rules (exceptions and requirements and standards and interactions) and seeing the rules / rule numbers can make it much more obvious how things work than a lecture or book format where the rules can all just blend together.

Reading the explanations / Q&A crap after the model rules takes much longer, but many say is absurdly helpful for the exam (I didn't do it myself).

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby BarbellDreams » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:50 pm

Big Shrimpin wrote:
PitchO20 wrote:memorize the BLL in the outline/video.


lolwut

PitchO20 wrote:the practice exams provided by BarBri are harder than the actual exam.


fck, I hope so


I lol'ed so hard at this I almost spilled my drink all over me. Nice.

I was going to study, but then I had an out of state interview so I prepped for that instead. Basically I know about half of the MPRe very well and the other half not at all. I'm 10/10 on practice problems so far though but its all stuff I actually saw in the lecture (I skipped out after half the lecture). All the conflict of interest stuff is gonna bury me.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby traehekat » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:25 pm

anyone use the bar max app for iphones/ipads? my studying thus far has consisted of listening to the "lectures" on the train and doing some of the problems it comes with.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:29 pm

I'm just learning from failure on practice questions.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:38 pm

Why do people say that taking ethics doesn't help for the MPRE. This shit is almost exactly the same.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Gamecubesupreme » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:48 pm

How are you suppose to glue/tape your photo onto the admission ticket if you don't have any glue or tape?

This is gonna be the hardest part of the exam for me.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Always Credited » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:49 pm

took ethics a year ago. professor was fired in the middle of the exam for sucking so badly. now MPRE tomorrow, just began studying. this should be good.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:50 pm

Gamecubesupreme wrote:How are you suppose to glue/tape your photo onto the admission ticket if you don't have any glue or tape?

This is gonna be the hardest part of the exam for me.


I plan on handing it over with no tape, and when it falls off yell, "YOU BROKE IT!"

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:52 pm

Also, what percent correct do I need to get an 80?

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Always Credited » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:57 pm

I think last year or the year before it was like 52% was an 85?

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby traehekat » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:04 pm

isn't this shit supposed to be like... common sense?

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby Gamecubesupreme » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:05 pm

Barbri girl told me an 85 was 37/60.

Not sure how reliable she is though.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby 09042014 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:07 pm

traehekat wrote:isn't this shit supposed to be like... common sense?


Not really. A lot of it is against common sense.

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Re: Might actually fail the MPRE

Postby traehekat » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:09 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
traehekat wrote:isn't this shit supposed to be like... common sense?


Not really. A lot of it is against common sense.


figures.




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