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2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby goosey » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:14 am

I have four finals---2 closed book and 2 open book, 1 class is p/f

bankruptcy [p/f; closed book]--reading supplement, using somebody else's outline, studying for one day during thanksgiving break and one day before the final]

T&E [open book]: finish up outline before break; do pre-written answers off the outline during thanksgiving break and take practice tests; study for exam for 3 days during reading period by condensing outline over and over again; if i have time I will outline the UPC briefly as well

FamLaw [closed book]: start looking at practice tests next weekend, finish outlining by thanksgiving break, start looking at practice tests within the next two weeks. I have this exam on a Monday, so will study for it all day sunday before the exam and half of saturday

Tax [open book]: finish outline by thanksgiving break and start practice exams. study for exam at least 1 hour every day during read period and exam period and then for the entire 2 days prior to the exam. will likely try to either find a code outline or make one myself. will also do as many pre-written answers as is possible for this class.

I am doing flashcards for t&e and tax as we go through topics..using law in a flash, will try to get through the entire deck at least twice before the exams.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby zomginternets » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:15 am

no offense, but that sounds like a really boring load of courses..

I got my ass handed to me on my evidence mid term, so I'm trying to buckle down and get back into 1L study mode--reread cases, outline, supplements, practice exams, etc. I might be going a bit overboard for 2L, but my competitiveness will not let me do the same on my finals as I did on that mid term.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby goosey » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:20 am

zomginternets wrote:no offense, but that sounds like a really boring load of courses..

I got my ass handed to me on my evidence mid term, so I'm trying to buckle down and get back into 1L study mode--reread cases, outline, supplements, practice exams, etc. I might be going a bit overboard for 2L, but my competitiveness will not let me do the same on my finals as I did on that mid term.


i actually love all my classes except for bankruptcy. that is the most boring class ever. I even like tax...because its like puzzle pieces that all fit together. and i love, love, love t&e

and yeah...I dont care if its 2L, i still want awesome grades. i also need to not lose my scholarship.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby SupraVln180 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:30 pm

goosey wrote:
zomginternets wrote:no offense, but that sounds like a really boring load of courses..

I got my ass handed to me on my evidence mid term, so I'm trying to buckle down and get back into 1L study mode--reread cases, outline, supplements, practice exams, etc. I might be going a bit overboard for 2L, but my competitiveness will not let me do the same on my finals as I did on that mid term.


i actually love all my classes except for bankruptcy. that is the most boring class ever. I even like tax...because its like puzzle pieces that all fit together. and i love, love, love t&e

and yeah...I dont care if its 2L, i still want awesome grades. i also need to not lose my scholarship.



Sorry I'm a 1L who was just lurking on this thread, but how exactly do you draft pre-written answers? I've heard of people doing this but don't understand how it can be done without the fact pattern.

Do you just go: A committed a Battery on B. Battery requires a contact. A caused a contact when he hit B with X. A also needed to have to intend to cause the contact. The intent can be direct or transferred. A in aiming for C with object X, intended to hit C, which transferred to B when A missed C (his target) and actually hit B..... etc. etc. etc.

Is that about how it would go? Or am I totally missing the mark? B/c this is something I want to do, especially for the practice.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby kaiser » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:32 pm

"2L" and "study" are two terms that don't really mix. I have no idea where you are finding the motivation, Goosey. Hope I manage to find some.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby gp86 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:37 pm

SupraVln180 wrote:
Sorry I'm a 1L who was just lurking on this thread, but how exactly do you draft pre-written answers? I've heard of people doing this but don't understand how it can be done without the fact pattern.

Do you just go: A committed a Battery on B. Battery requires a contact. A caused a contact when he hit B with X. A also needed to have to intend to cause the contact. The intent can be direct or transferred. A in aiming for C with object X, intended to hit C, which transferred to B when A missed C (his target) and actually hit B..... etc. etc. etc.

Is that about how it would go? Or am I totally missing the mark? B/c this is something I want to do, especially for the practice.


I think the only class this is particularly helpful for is Civ Pro. You'll almost certainly get a personal/subject matter jurisdiction problem, and the rules for these concepts are a little lengthy. I mean, it saves you a few minutes at best, but there's no point in wasting time figuring out how you should structure your rules when you could have done so beforehand. Basically, if you have a feeling that your prof is strongly inclined to ask you about something, try and think through how you would approach the issue so you won't waste time figuring out how to structure your answer before getting to the meat of the problem itself.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby desertlaw » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:54 pm

Stop gunning and drink up, 2L's. This thread sucks.

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Re: 2Ls: Study Plan?

Postby goosey » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:53 am

gp86 wrote:
SupraVln180 wrote:
Sorry I'm a 1L who was just lurking on this thread, but how exactly do you draft pre-written answers? I've heard of people doing this but don't understand how it can be done without the fact pattern.

Do you just go: A committed a Battery on B. Battery requires a contact. A caused a contact when he hit B with X. A also needed to have to intend to cause the contact. The intent can be direct or transferred. A in aiming for C with object X, intended to hit C, which transferred to B when A missed C (his target) and actually hit B..... etc. etc. etc.

Is that about how it would go? Or am I totally missing the mark? B/c this is something I want to do, especially for the practice.


I think the only class this is particularly helpful for is Civ Pro. You'll almost certainly get a personal/subject matter jurisdiction problem, and the rules for these concepts are a little lengthy. I mean, it saves you a few minutes at best, but there's no point in wasting time figuring out how you should structure your rules when you could have done so beforehand. Basically, if you have a feeling that your prof is strongly inclined to ask you about something, try and think through how you would approach the issue so you won't waste time figuring out how to structure your answer before getting to the meat of the problem itself.


I did this for property and parts of con law as well. basically, you take everything from your outline and put it in...some classes you can do it for the entire material [property, civ pro, torts, t&e, etc]

here is my pre-written answer for notice:

Notice [rule 4] is notification given to the ∆ about pendency of action. According to rule 4, proper notice must give notification that the person is being sued, by whom, over what, where, etc. Further, the ∆ must be given a reasonable time to appear and the opportunity to be heard. Notice is okay if reasonably calculated under the circumstances to afford the parties an opportunity to present their objections. What this means is that the reasonableness of any chosen method of notice may be defended on the ground that it is itself reasonably certain to inform those affected, or, where conditions do not reasonably permit such notice, that the form chosen is not substantially less likely to bring home notice than any other of the feasible and customary substitutes.

On the exam, I just started writing after that point.."here, xyz did not..."

it really helps you fly through the issues. In addition, it allows you to put lots of detail in your answer that may slip your mind the day of. I usually put one topic on each page and at the bottom of the page I put "**mention X case where..." and add it in if applicable. I also make a TOC for easy reference [in alphabetical order]. And in most of my pre-written answers, i would have "the policy behind this rule is.." bc my professor followed that route in class--he would tell us the rule, then explain the policy. I got an A-...he told me it would have been an A if I spent more time working with the fact pattern itself...so I think one thing to watch out for wth pre-written answers is that you need to put adequate time into the analysis part as well. I tended to jump from one issue to the next rather than doing a whole lot of analysis. so make sure you dont do that. but def def deffff do pre-written answers. I have done it for every class where the exam was open book and it pays off big time

and more importantly, doing this makes you learn the material REALLY WELL.

also, make sure you dont stick to what you have written 100%...you have to use it as a general guide and then if the fact pattern doesnt involve a specific nuance, skip that sentence.

lastly, i think this is only worth the effort if you do it for every topic...its a huge gamble to spend 5 hours doing this guessing which topic will be covered. what if you only get 2 right?




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