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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby sundance95 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:04 am

SilverE2 wrote:
tedalbany wrote:Damn now I'm kind of scared, did I cheat?

I got a hold of my professors past exams with model answers (officially released) from other schools (but not released to our school) and looked them over, and she used one of the exact same questions (fact pattern, the details were different - names and exact stuff, but the structure was almost entirely the same). This wasn't a huge benefit to me because I didn't even read the entire model answer, though I did remember and use some of the more creative arguments.


At many schools this is an honor code violation.

This happened to me and I immediately reported the problem, along with some of my classmates who had gone over the practice exam with me. I'd recommend you think about doing the same. It's your professors fault but if you take advantage of the situation then you're probably crossing the line. Also, we did not have a model answer which presumably makes your situation more serious. The school addressed the prob by not grading the Q, btw.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby TTTLS » Wed May 09, 2012 1:05 am

Poasting on page 180 for good luck.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby 3|ink » Wed May 09, 2012 1:07 am

SCHOOL'S OUT FOR SUMMER!!

Special thanks to everyone who answered my dumb questions.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby bartleby » Wed May 09, 2012 1:22 am

sundance95 wrote:
SilverE2 wrote:
tedalbany wrote:Damn now I'm kind of scared, did I cheat?

I got a hold of my professors past exams with model answers (officially released) from other schools (but not released to our school) and looked them over, and she used one of the exact same questions (fact pattern, the details were different - names and exact stuff, but the structure was almost entirely the same). This wasn't a huge benefit to me because I didn't even read the entire model answer, though I did remember and use some of the more creative arguments.


At many schools this is an honor code violation.

This happened to me and I immediately reported the problem, along with some of my classmates who had gone over the practice exam with me. I'd recommend you think about doing the same. It's your professors fault but if you take advantage of the situation then you're probably crossing the line. Also, we did not have a model answer which presumably makes your situation more serious. The school addressed the prob by not grading the Q, btw.


so wtf happens to the people who did the Q? it got thrown out for everyone?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby JenDarby » Wed May 09, 2012 1:24 am

SilverE2 wrote:
tedalbany wrote:Damn now I'm kind of scared, did I cheat?

I got a hold of my professors past exams with model answers (officially released) from other schools (but not released to our school) and looked them over, and she used one of the exact same questions (fact pattern, the details were different - names and exact stuff, but the structure was almost entirely the same). This wasn't a huge benefit to me because I didn't even read the entire model answer, though I did remember and use some of the more creative arguments.


At many schools this is an honor code violation.

I ican't imagine this explicitly being listed as an honor code violation, but would love to read an example of such.

"Do not read exams and model answers that your professor has officially released, unless they are specifically officially released to you."

Making this an honor code violation seems like overstepping to me. In a digital age, professors need to recognize what they've released and write tests in light of that.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby kapital98 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:46 am

Did this happen at Villanova?

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/05/huge-exa ... s-of-test/

I was seriously hoping for embarrassment of a T20 school :|

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby sundance95 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:53 am

That Q was not graded for anyone.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Extension_Cord » Wed May 09, 2012 1:55 am

tedalbany wrote:Damn now I'm kind of scared, did I cheat?

I got a hold of my professors past exams with model answers (officially released) from other schools (but not released to our school) and looked them over, and she used one of the exact same questions (fact pattern, the details were different - names and exact stuff, but the structure was almost entirely the same). This wasn't a huge benefit to me because I didn't even read the entire model answer, though I did remember and use some of the more creative arguments.


I don't consider it cheating. I haven't done it though, thought of it, but haven't done it.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Dick Dastardly » Wed May 09, 2012 2:08 am

kapital98 wrote:Did this happen at Villanova?

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/05/huge-exa ... s-of-test/

I was seriously hoping for embarrassment of a T20 school :|

I would immediately murder my professor, and draw a similar fact pattern in his blood.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby bartleby » Wed May 09, 2012 3:27 am

late night con law-ing

does the arizona immigration statute have any DCC issue to it at all? if they cracked down on illegal immigrants, couldn't they pour into new mexico and texas

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Wed May 09, 2012 4:10 am

the writing competition is the worst thing I've experience so far in 1L.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Lasers » Wed May 09, 2012 4:13 am

the color has returned to my world. so good to be done.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Wed May 09, 2012 5:01 am

Lasers wrote:the color has returned to my world. so good to be done.

qwew oyo at the party? SO GOOD TO BE DONE. Just got back from 1L party. so fun and so funny.lololol

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Sapientia » Wed May 09, 2012 6:50 am

TTTLS wrote:Poasting on page 180 for good luck.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Wed May 09, 2012 7:09 am

bartleby wrote:late night con law-ing

does the arizona immigration statute have any DCC issue to it at all? if they cracked down on illegal immigrants, couldn't they pour into new mexico and texas

I'm thinking field pre-emption. Does federal govt legislation fill the entire field of regulating immigration and prevent states from acting in this domain or does it allow for state regulation of this issue since federal legislation leaves gaps in which the states can act.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 am

Closed-book property final in 3 hours. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death...

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby OklahomasOK » Wed May 09, 2012 10:57 am

Anyone have a good format for tackling a products liability question? My professor has absolutely sucked at tying a bow around Torts II this semester. I'm not sure if I should start with the four theories of recovery and then hone in on 402A or just go straight from defect type into 402A and then mention alternative theories of recovery.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby merc280 » Wed May 09, 2012 11:12 am

Criminal law final in a couple of hours. Not sure im ready for it but I feel super confident. Only rules in my mind are just write it all down on paper and dont make any definitive statements. According to my professor it is factually impossible for someone to say "This issue is clearly", and anyone writing that down will probably get points off.

Open book, open notes, 50mc 2 essay. IRAC method preferred.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Wart » Wed May 09, 2012 2:56 pm

Why can't that professor just not count the re-used questions?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Lasers » Wed May 09, 2012 3:19 pm

ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote:the color has returned to my world. so good to be done.

qwew oyo at the party? SO GOOD TO BE DONE. Just got back from 1L party. so fun and so funny.lololol

ahha sounded like a good time. nah, i took it easy and hung out with some friends instead.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby northwood » Wed May 09, 2012 3:29 pm

Sapientia wrote:
TTTLS wrote:Poasting on page 180 for good luck.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby beachbum » Wed May 09, 2012 3:49 pm

Flips88 wrote:the writing competition is the worst thing I've experience so far in 1L.


Plus fucking one. Words cannot describe how much I don't want to do this, and how difficult it is to focus.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby tedalbany » Wed May 09, 2012 4:06 pm

northwood wrote:
Sapientia wrote:
TTTLS wrote:Poasting on page 180 for good luck.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jd-mba » Wed May 09, 2012 4:08 pm

falling asleep reading my outline....... :cry:

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby acrossthelake » Wed May 09, 2012 4:27 pm

It turns out you CAN teach yourself property in 4 days.




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