1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:06 am

TTTLS wrote:I got a dig bick. You that read wrong. You read that wrong too.


lulz, you got me.

also, I'm at this point, but I'll still be up for a little bit longer anyway:

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:10 am

TTTLS wrote:I got a dig bick. You that read wrong. You read that wrong too.

I lol'd a little too hard at this.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Lasers » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:20 am

ilovesf wrote:Also - so jelly of people who don't have closed book con law exams. fml.

same, but i think the closed book exams will generally be more forgiving, especially when it comes to specific details.

it's a trade off.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Lasers » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:21 am

TTTLS wrote:I got a dig bick. You that read wrong. You read that wrong too.

are you a wizard?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:03 am

Fuck privity of contract v. privity of estate within leasehold agreements. Fuck it hard.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:05 am

taking a full timed ks practice test soon. i want to die.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby lifestooquick » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:21 am

Last day of classes = review sessions. I've decided that I don't like review sessions...they stress me out!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby akili » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:34 am

Just really realized my first exam is tomorrow. Too much to do!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby skw » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:58 am

crossarmant wrote:Fuck privity of contract v. privity of estate within leasehold agreements. Fuck it hard.


THIS. but fuck privity for ESs/covenants! Our prof said we could analyze everything as an ES (so no need to worry about privity). Then he proceeded in our review session to . . . analyze privity. Sigh:-(

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:59 am

Can't decide what time I want to cut off studying today. Exam @ 8:30 manana

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby JenDarby » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:47 pm

I just got our CALI auth code, so I've never looked at it...

Are there any really great civpro/Ks things that people recommend on there?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby shock259 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:28 pm

T MINUS 1 WEEK

Maybe exams are creeping up on everyone else at my school, too. No one seems nearly as stressed as they were last semester.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:33 pm

shock259 wrote:T MINUS 1 WEEK

Maybe exams are creeping up on everyone else at my school, too. No one seems nearly as stressed as they were last semester.


Mine is in 2 days, but I know what you mean. Last week when I was in the library it was a ghost town by 5pm. Last night the place was empty by 8pm with exams right around the corner. Maybe it's that I'm at a T2 or that people just prefer studying at home, but the fanaticism doesn't seem terribly pervasive this semester.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:55 pm

I'm sure the clusterfuck of a Con Law exam I just took will be reported on ATL shortly.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Shammis » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:02 pm

fuc$%@gTorts all day. Good luck to everyone who is already testing - Ive got 1 week to go.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby shock259 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:04 pm

Flips88 wrote:I'm sure the clusterfuck of a Con Law exam I just took will be reported on ATL shortly.


GO ON!

Last semester I took a Torts exam that the teacher had given to us earlier in the semester as a sample exam.

I love exam controversies.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Guchster » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:06 pm

crossarmant wrote:Fuck privity of contract v. privity of estate within leasehold agreements. Fuck it hard.


Can you disclose your understanding of it on here? I want to see if I get it.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:25 pm

Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Fuck privity of contract v. privity of estate within leasehold agreements. Fuck it hard.


Can you disclose your understanding of it on here? I want to see if I get it.


My understanding is that when a person is given a leasehold estate they are held in privity of contract as well as privity of estate with the landlord. However, when the original Tenant (T1) assigns their lease to Tenant 2 (T2), T1 loses the privity of estate, yet retains the privity of contract unless they specifically give away all rights and responsibilities of the leasehold to T2. If T2 does not take the full rights, but merely an assignment, they are then in privity of estate with the landlord but not privity of contract because they hold privity of contract with T1; but T1 only has privity of contract, not estate with the Landlord. Now if T2 subleases their leasehold to Tenant 3 (T3), then T3 holds neither privity of estate nor contract with the landlord because their privity of contract only exists with T2 since they took a lesser quantum estate from T2 than the full leasehold; T3 also holds no privity of estate to the landlord because T2 still holds the entirety of the leasehold estate while T3 holds a lesser estate than what the landlord assigned.

LL & T1 - Privity of Contract
LL & T2 - Privity of Estate
LL & T3 - No privity
T1 & T2 - Privity of contract in assignment
T2 & T3 - Privity of contract in sublease
T1 & T3 - No Privity

So if the LL wanted to sue to recover unpaid rent, they may sue T1 & T2 since the LL holds privity with each, but they could not sue T3. However, T2 can sue T3 in subrogation to recover the due rent.

THAT is my understanding of it. That is also the reason why I say fuck privity of estate and contract in leaseholds.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:49 pm

Also if anyone else wants to throw property questions out, I'm up for answering and getting others' answers.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:49 pm

crossarmant wrote:Also if anyone else wants to throw propertycon law questions out, I'm up for answering and getting others' answers.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby gdane » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:00 pm

Preclusion mastery is underway! I did all the questions in the E and E and Cali Lessons.

However, Class Actions are scaring me. I've looked through the E&E and there doesnt appear to be anything in there. Can anyone confirm that the Civ Pro E&E has nothing on class actions?

Thanks!!!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Guchster » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:01 pm

crossarmant wrote:
Guchster wrote:
crossarmant wrote:Fuck privity of contract v. privity of estate within leasehold agreements. Fuck it hard.


Can you disclose your understanding of it on here? I want to see if I get it.


My understanding is that when a person is given a leasehold estate they are held in privity of contract as well as privity of estate with the landlord. However, when the original Tenant (T1) assigns their lease to Tenant 2 (T2), T1 loses the privity of estate, yet retains the privity of contract unless they specifically give away all rights and responsibilities of the leasehold to T2. If T2 does not take the full rights, but merely an assignment, they are then in privity of estate with the landlord but not privity of contract because they hold privity of contract with T1; but T1 only has privity of contract, not estate with the Landlord. Now if T2 subleases their leasehold to Tenant 3 (T3), then T3 holds neither privity of estate nor contract with the landlord because their privity of contract only exists with T2 since they took a lesser quantum estate from T2 than the full leasehold; T3 also holds no privity of estate to the landlord because T2 still holds the entirety of the leasehold estate while T3 holds a lesser estate than what the landlord assigned.

LL & T1 - Privity of Contract
LL & T2 - Privity of Estate
LL & T3 - No privity
T1 & T2 - Privity of contract in assignment
T2 & T3 - Privity of contract in sublease
T1 & T3 - No Privity

So if the LL wanted to sue to recover unpaid rent, they may sue T1 & T2 since the LL holds privity with each, but they could not sue T3. However, T2 can sue T3 in subrogation to recover the due rent.

THAT is my understanding of it. That is also the reason why I say fuck privity of estate and contract in leaseholds.


TYBCross

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby angrybird » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:07 pm

i remember that day in class

it went something like "yea, so a long time ago courts used to make a big deal about this thing called privity. i don't think anyone cares any more so let's just move on."

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Guchster » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:09 pm

Feel free to ask questions/give problems for crim, prop, or con law. i learn by practice.


(I can also answer contracts/civ pro for people, cuz i understand stuff, but this won't be useful for me).

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Dany » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:16 pm

Guchster wrote:Feel free to ask questions/give problems for crim, prop, or con law. i learn by practice.


(I can also answer contracts/civ pro for people, cuz i understand stuff, but this won't be useful for me).

Teach me civ pro please?




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