1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby TTTLS » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:33 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:STILL STRIVING DAMN IT

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:36 am

Guchster wrote:decided to go to a bar instead:

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:37 am

TTTLS wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:STILL STRIVING DAMN IT

Just finished my Ks outline. 8)

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby TTTLS » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:40 am

Gecko of Doom wrote:
TTTLS wrote:How many people in your LS do you think abuse adderall during this time of the year?

Hey, people here represent the future of the legal industry and abide by the ethical standards of the profession.

So probably a lot.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:42 am

substantive due process is such utter bullshit

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby rad lulz » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:48 am

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Sapientia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:55 am

rad lulz wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:substantive due process is such utter bullshit

1L is bullshit; HTH.

I thought it was the most important year...?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:57 am

Sapientia wrote:I thought it was the most important year...?

For getting grades to get a jerb...?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:00 am

Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:01 am

Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

No idea. This just reminds me I know nothing about crim.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:03 am

ilovesf wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

No idea. This just reminds me I know nothing about crim.

You're telling me. I have a 31 page outline to cram into my head (closed-book exam :() in the next 13 days. Oh and a Con law exam in there somewhere.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:04 am

Flips88 wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

No idea. This just reminds me I know nothing about crim.

You're telling me. I have a 31 page outline to cram into my head (closed-book exam :() in the next 13 days. Oh and a Con law exam in there somewhere.

:( Closed books are just evil. We only have closed book conlaw. For crim we get to bring in 4 typed pages.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Sapientia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:14 am

Flips88 wrote:
Sapientia wrote:I thought it was the most important year...?

For getting grades to get a jerb...?


Well, yea. What else is more important than that?

Edit: I guess it can be important and still be bullshit. So, nevermind.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby rad lulz » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:16 am

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby lifestooquick » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:16 am

Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

Solicitation only merges into the completion of the actual crime solicited. Conspiracy is a separate crime and the merger doctrine does not apply to it.

So if there is a solicitation to conspire to rob a bank and then the bank robbery happens the person would be charged with the robbery and conspiracy.

If there is a solicitation to conspire to rob a bank and the robbery does NOT happen then they would be charged with solicitation and conspiracy.

This is from my notes from Dressler's class last semester :) I miss that class so much!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Guchster » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:21 am

came back to study, but i decided i'm going to bed now.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:23 am

lifestooquick wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?

I think the answer is yes, but Dressler doesn't say it outright in the supplement, but logically it should merge.

Solicitation only merges into the completion of the actual crime solicited. Conspiracy is a separate crime and the merger doctrine does not apply to it.

So if there is a solicitation to conspire to rob a bank and then the bank robbery happens the person would be charged with the robbery and conspiracy.

If there is a solicitation to conspire to rob a bank and the robbery does NOT happen then they would be charged with solicitation and conspiracy.

This is from my notes from Dressler's class last semester :) I miss that class so much!

Thanks. His supplement uses some awkward wording. Says something like solicitation is an attempt to form a conspiracy.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:23 am

Guchster wrote:came back to study, but i decided i'm going to bed now.

that was fast. bar not fun?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby bk1 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:29 am

Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?


My notes:
G. If steps taken towards crime but then never goes through with it:
1. Solicitation merges with conspiracy.
2. Charged with conspiracy.

I'm pretty sure that's what prof from hell said but it seems to contradict LTQ. We should email to clarify.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby lifestooquick » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:34 am

bk1 wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Also for anyone that is in Crim, if a solicitation results in a conspiracy, does the solicitation count just merge with conspiracy?


My notes:
G. If steps taken towards crime but then never goes through with it:
1. Solicitation merges with conspiracy.
2. Charged with conspiracy.

I'm pretty sure that's what prof from hell said but it seems to contradict LTQ. We should email to clarify.

Hmmmm...I would definitely double-check then Flips! I should disclaim that we did not spend much time on inchoate offenses particularly conspiracy cause Dressler said he could teach an entire class on just that and we didn't have the time.

I can see how if the only charge is conspiracy without another offense you could view the solicitation as an attempt and then it would merge. Definitely a bit of a gray area :/

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:45 am

Found it in Dressler. solicitation merges with conspiracy.

"D solicits X to murder V, and X agrees but takes no action in furtherance of their agreement. Here, as a result o the agreement, D is ugilty with X of conspiracy to murder V. As before, the solicitation merges with conspiracy."

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby lifestooquick » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:46 am

Flips88 wrote:Found it in Dressler. solicitation merges with conspiracy.

"D solicits X to murder V, and X agrees but takes no action in furtherance of their agreement. Here, as a result o the agreement, D is ugilty with X of conspiracy to murder V. As before, the solicitation merges with conspiracy."

Pg. 424

That makes sense - sorry to lead you astray! It's been awhile :|

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:50 am

And done. Glad I stayed in, now on to some Dominoes.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Flips88 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:52 am

lifestooquick wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Found it in Dressler. solicitation merges with conspiracy.

"D solicits X to murder V, and X agrees but takes no action in furtherance of their agreement. Here, as a result o the agreement, D is ugilty with X of conspiracy to murder V. As before, the solicitation merges with conspiracy."

Pg. 424

That makes sense - sorry to lead you astray! It's been awhile :|

No problem!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:01 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:And done. Glad I stayed in, now on to some Dominoes.


You're lame. We had fun.




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