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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:17 pm

alicrimson wrote:
ilovesf wrote:Oh yeah, taking a midterm as I write this. 30% of my grade. Not good.



I'm sure you'll do wonderfully! :D I begin exam ramp up time. 39 days and 10 hours until finals begin. I have been a big slacker this semester. Tomorrow marks the beginning of my least favorite thing.


So hard to start this again. Not yet sure what I'm going to change this semester to push myself over the top...I'm thinking more practice problems.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Dany » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:31 pm

I'm already done with my second set of exams!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:59 pm

Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jarofsoup » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:03 am

ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Citing during an exam is a huge was of time. I did this during finals...the ones that cared about casese this case is more like Angry students than XXXXXX or in XXX we saw. but honestly for most of my 1L clases with the exception of Civ Pro it is very rule based. However some the rules are named after cases.

Basically an final exam is a educated rant.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:06 am

jarofsoup wrote:
ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Citing during an exam is a huge was of time. I did this during finals...the ones that cared about casese this case is more like Angry students than XXXXXX or in XXX we saw. but honestly for most of my 1L clases with the exception of Civ Pro it is very rule based. However some the rules are named after cases.

Basically an final exam is a educated rant.


Sorry, this isn't for exams, it's for my LRW class. I just didn't want to start my own topic and figured I could get a quick response in here.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jarofsoup » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:11 am

ph14 wrote:
jarofsoup wrote:
ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Citing during an exam is a huge was of time. I did this during finals...the ones that cared about casese this case is more like Angry students than XXXXXX or in XXX we saw. but honestly for most of my 1L clases with the exception of Civ Pro it is very rule based. However some the rules are named after cases.

Basically an final exam is a educated rant.


Sorry, this isn't for exams, it's for my LRW class. I just didn't want to start my own topic and figured I could get a quick response in here.


Oh.... Only use the long form first time around. then you can use the short version..... you probably want to email your teacher too for an answer.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:11 am

jarofsoup wrote:
ph14 wrote:
jarofsoup wrote:
ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Citing during an exam is a huge was of time. I did this during finals...the ones that cared about casese this case is more like Angry students than XXXXXX or in XXX we saw. but honestly for most of my 1L clases with the exception of Civ Pro it is very rule based. However some the rules are named after cases.

Basically an final exam is a educated rant.


Sorry, this isn't for exams, it's for my LRW class. I just didn't want to start my own topic and figured I could get a quick response in here.


Oh.... Only use the long form first time around. then you can use the short version..... you probably want to email your teacher too for an answer.


Isn't there some bluebook rule about this somewhere?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby lisjjen » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:19 am

Who has started outlining? I review my notes regularly but I haven't started them yet. I have 12 hours on Amtrak tomorrow and was going to get started. Am I behind?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:20 am

lisjjen wrote:Who has started outlining? I review my notes regularly but I haven't started them yet. I have 12 hours on Amtrak tomorrow and was going to get started. Am I behind?


I outline as I go. Going to make a condensed version (which will probably serve as my issue spotter outline) though like I did last semester a bit before exam time to refresh and really get the BLL squared away.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:21 am

lisjjen wrote:Who has started outlining? I review my notes regularly but I haven't started them yet. I have 12 hours on Amtrak tomorrow and was going to get started. Am I behind?

I am starting this second. :|

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:23 am

Is everyone done with LRW? I feel like I am a bit behind in learning the material for my main classes but hopefully can catch up as soon as i'm done with LRW.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:26 am

ph14 wrote:Is everyone done with LRW? I feel like I am a bit behind in learning the material for my main classes but hopefully can catch up as soon as i'm done with LRW.

We have moot court this semester instead. Our brief was due like March 3rd, and we have oral arguments next week.. then done!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:27 am

ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Is everyone done with LRW? I feel like I am a bit behind in learning the material for my main classes but hopefully can catch up as soon as i'm done with LRW.

We have moot court this semester instead. Our brief was due like March 3rd, and we have oral arguments next week.. then done!


Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:31 am

ph14 wrote:Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

I'm not really doing anything to prepare. I'm going to reread my brief, read my opponent's brief, and maybe say my 15 minute spiel out loud one time. I don't care that much about doing well, I just don't want to make a fool of myself in front of the judges.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:33 am

ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

I'm not really doing anything to prepare. I'm going to reread my brief, read my opponent's brief, and maybe say my 15 minute spiel out loud one time. I don't care that much about doing well, I just don't want to make a fool of myself in front of the judges.


That sounds like a plan. Do you guys have to argue by yourselves?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:37 am

ph14 wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

I'm not really doing anything to prepare. I'm going to reread my brief, read my opponent's brief, and maybe say my 15 minute spiel out loud one time. I don't care that much about doing well, I just don't want to make a fool of myself in front of the judges.


That sounds like a plan. Do you guys have to argue by yourselves?

Yeah, we are paired up so there is 1 petitioner and 1 respondent arguing against each other in front of a panel of "judges" for 15 minutes. What about you?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:40 am

ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

I'm not really doing anything to prepare. I'm going to reread my brief, read my opponent's brief, and maybe say my 15 minute spiel out loud one time. I don't care that much about doing well, I just don't want to make a fool of myself in front of the judges.


That sounds like a plan. Do you guys have to argue by yourselves?

Yeah, we are paired up so there is 1 petitioner and 1 respondent arguing against each other in front of a panel of "judges" for 15 minutes. What about you?


Ours is 25 minutes split between 2 people on each team. I have no idea what I will talk about for 12 minutes really :lol:.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:40 am

Started outlining today. BEASTED personal jurisdiction :)

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:41 am

ph14 wrote:Ours is 25 minutes split between 2 people on each team. I have no idea what I will talk about for 12 minutes really :lol:.

Do your judges ask you questions and stuff? If yes, then it seems like it actually goes by (somewhat) faster than you think. If no, good luck :lol:

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:43 am

ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Ours is 25 minutes split between 2 people on each team. I have no idea what I will talk about for 12 minutes really :lol:.

Do your judges ask you questions and stuff? If yes, then it seems like it actually goes by (somewhat) faster than you think. If no, good luck :lol:


Yeah, i've heard they don't let you get more than a sentence out. Seems fun.

FeelTheHeat wrote:Started outlining today. BEASTED personal jurisdiction


You guys have 2 semester civ pro?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:45 am

Just one. PJ was pretty substantive, though.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby JenDarby » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:00 am

ilovesf wrote:
ph14 wrote:Jealous. We have that same thing, our briefs are due next week and then oral argument in April. How much work is it to prepare for oral argument? I was planning on not doing anything since it isn't really part of our grade.

I'm not really doing anything to prepare. I'm going to reread my brief, read my opponent's brief, and maybe say my 15 minute spiel out loud one time. I don't care that much about doing well, I just don't want to make a fool of myself in front of the judges.

This. The time you spent on your brief is nearly all the prep you need. The time flies by and even the most rambling person in the room for mine (who literally got so confused she entirely incorrectly described how an objective standard is a subjective standard) still did OK overall.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ph14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:25 am

ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Anyone?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:28 am

ph14 wrote:
ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Anyone?


Our teacher has said that short form is acceptable when within the same section, but upon moving to a different argument heading you need to reintroduce the full cite. No idea what the BB rule is, so take it for what it's worth.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby JenDarby » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:32 am

ph14 wrote:
ph14 wrote:Can I use a short form of a case in the text if I have cited it in full after a sentence previously (but not in the text). So like:

...the court generally does this. See Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School, 123 U.S. 345 (2013). In Angry Law Students, this happened...

Or do I have to refer to it as Angry Law Students v. Thomas Jefferson Law School the first time I refer to it in the text no matter what?


Anyone?

That is just fine per BB. I don't have the page as I'm not home, but it's in there!

(edited since I misread your question on my phone)




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