1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby alicrimson » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:14 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
alicrimson wrote:First exam down. I walked out feeling fairly confident only to realize that I missed one of the key elements in my essay. The big underlying issue was robbery and the bulk of everything else was applicable through some giant resevoir dog fact pattern. (Yes, there was Mr. Pink). There were a few principal issues;however, I blew the analysis of mens rea and decided for some God forsaken reason that robbery was general intent. Why? I don't know. We didn't do theft in class but its super easy. I realized a good hour and a half after the test this happened. Seriously hoping that I don't get x'd for every single issue because I messed up one mens rea term. If I do, I'm looking at a D. Sucks. My boyfriend thinks I'm being stupid because he doesn't think I'll get docked thousands of times for one problem but idk...I guess I shouldn't worry about it but I was feeling pretty good. Damn it. lol. Anywho, on to torts.


People get a D in law school?

Anyways best of luck.


Or C or C+...for my purposes, D. haha and they do if the prof takes off for every time I said general intent.

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Postby Dany » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:20 pm

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:43 pm

did anyone study the 7 factor zubulake cost-shifting test and the rowe 8 factor test? what's the difference? i have that i need to know rowe, but it is nowhere in my notes. apparently i just wasn't paying attention that day.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby brickman » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:14 pm

crim tomorrow morning.

nice knowing you all.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:22 pm

Torts at 10am tomorrow. 3 Practice exams, ~15 hypos out of Seigel's as well as a load of Multiple Choice down. 3 hours in-class, closed book exam. Let's do this.... I feel pretty confident.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Extension_Cord » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:23 pm

crossarmant wrote:Torts at 10am tomorrow. 3 Practice exams, ~15 hypos out of Seigel's as well as a load of Multiple Choice down. 3 hours in-class, closed book exam. Let's do this.... I feel pretty confident.


Good luck!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby ilovesf » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:27 pm

Wow a lot of us have exams tomorrow! I have civ pro at 8:30 :|

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Michaela » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:30 pm

ilovesf wrote:Wow a lot of us have exams tomorrow! I have civ pro at 8:30 :|


Torts at 9. 2 essays- one is going to be a long ass fact pattern and the other is a policy question. Past exams are a little nuts, but nothing can be worse than my K exam yesterday.

Apparently last year in K the A on the curve got something like a 60% raw score. I'd be more pissed, but that prof was actually an awesome guy.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby AlexanderSupertramp » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 pm

Tomorrow's a day off for me. Ks on Thursday. I took an old final and got 83/100 points. I know that for her midterm 76 ended up being a B so I feel OK.

Good luck, everyone!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby $peppercorn » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:01 pm

Contracts at 9. Here we go

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby thegrayman » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:16 pm

Erie q:

my professor gave us a guide to follow when analyzing erie problems, and it starts off with saying erie problems can arise in:

a) diversity cases
b) supplemental jurisdiction
c) removal jurisdicition

I have a flowchart that says it can only come up in diversity cases??

which is right? I have been using supplements to do erie, are there multiple ways to tackle erie issues or do they all achieve the same end result?

also - I hate civ pro, I will make my kids read civ pro books when they are bad

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby thegrayman » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:17 pm

$peppercorn wrote:Contracts at 9. Here we go


crush!!!!!!!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:20 pm

thegrayman wrote:Erie q:

my professor gave us a guide to follow when analyzing erie problems, and it starts off with saying erie problems can arise in:

a) diversity cases
b) supplemental jurisdiction
c) removal jurisdicition

I have a flowchart that says it can only come up in diversity cases??

which is right? I have been using supplements to do erie, are there multiple ways to tackle erie issues or do they all achieve the same end result?

also - I hate civ pro, I will make my kids read civ pro books when they are bad


Supplemental means there's some diversity involved just not for the particular account, so it's still sort of diversity. Removal jurisdiction requires SMJ anyhow, which could be federal question or diversity, so it could come up in some removal cases. They're all sort of just different flavors of diversity, if that makes any sense.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby brickman » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:20 pm

thegrayman wrote:Erie q:

my professor gave us a guide to follow when analyzing erie problems, and it starts off with saying erie problems can arise in:

a) diversity cases
b) supplemental jurisdiction
c) removal jurisdicition

I have a flowchart that says it can only come up in diversity cases??

which is right? I have been using supplements to do erie, are there multiple ways to tackle erie issues or do they all achieve the same end result?

also - I hate civ pro, I will make my kids read civ pro books when they are bad



erie comes up whenever a federal COURT has to decide a state law question.

the question is do we apply state law or is there federal law we can apply, i.e. fed statute/FRCP a la hanna track or go the Erie track and do an erie analysis and modified outcome determinative test and byrd balancing.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby theavrock » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:27 pm

Do well on your exams all who have them. I refuse to say good luck.

"The best of luck of all is
the luck you make for yourself."
Douglas MacArthur

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jjlaw » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:50 pm

One thing: I hate study groups. I am not going to be in one next semester. Too much bullshit when so much shit is already hitting the fan.

/end rant

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby johansantana21 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:50 pm

jjlaw wrote:One thing: I hate study groups. I am not going to be in one next semester. Too much bullshit when so much shit is already hitting the fan.

/end rant


Elaborate?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jjlaw » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:53 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
jjlaw wrote:One thing: I hate study groups. I am not going to be in one next semester. Too much bullshit when so much shit is already hitting the fan.

/end rant


Elaborate?


It's a trap like all the TLS guides have mentioned. I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to bounce ideas off one of another to learn the material throughout the semester, but the people I study with were so flaky all semester and can't pull their shit together. I gave up trying to coordinate with them a month ago, but sometimes when they ask me questions that I think they should have asked/ we should have talked about a month ago, I get really pissed. Study groups are a time sink, like everyone else has said on TLS. I believe it now.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby johansantana21 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:55 pm

jjlaw wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:
jjlaw wrote:One thing: I hate study groups. I am not going to be in one next semester. Too much bullshit when so much shit is already hitting the fan.

/end rant


Elaborate?


It's a trap like all the TLS guides have mentioned. I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to bounce ideas off one of another to learn the material throughout the semester, but the people I study with were so flaky all semester and can't pull their shit together. I gave up trying to coordinate with them a month ago, but sometimes when they ask me questions that I think they should have asked/ we should have talked about a month ago, I get really pissed. Study groups are a time sink, like everyone else has said on TLS. I believe it now.


People say that?

Also people do practice exams a month before exams?

Damn.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby crossarmant » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:03 pm

jjlaw wrote:It's a trap like all the TLS guides have mentioned. I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to bounce ideas off one of another to learn the material throughout the semester, but the people I study with were so flaky all semester and can't pull their shit together. I gave up trying to coordinate with them a month ago, but sometimes when they ask me questions that I think they should have asked/ we should have talked about a month ago, I get really pissed. Study groups are a time sink, like everyone else has said on TLS. I believe it now.


A couple of classmates invited me into a study group and I accepted initially thinking it would be a good idea. But I reneged later just because I found that the more I isolated myself from the LS social giggles and whatnot, the more centered I was and felt like I understood the subject matter better.... Well, lets hope I learned it all well.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby $peppercorn » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:03 pm

thegrayman wrote:
$peppercorn wrote:Contracts at 9. Here we go


crush!!!!!!!


Thanks!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby SwampRat88 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:21 pm

Choice of law question between states: is the statute of frauds considered substantive or procedural?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby jjlaw » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:31 pm

crossarmant wrote:
jjlaw wrote:It's a trap like all the TLS guides have mentioned. I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to bounce ideas off one of another to learn the material throughout the semester, but the people I study with were so flaky all semester and can't pull their shit together. I gave up trying to coordinate with them a month ago, but sometimes when they ask me questions that I think they should have asked/ we should have talked about a month ago, I get really pissed. Study groups are a time sink, like everyone else has said on TLS. I believe it now.


A couple of classmates invited me into a study group and I accepted initially thinking it would be a good idea. But I reneged later just because I found that the more I isolated myself from the LS social giggles and whatnot, the more centered I was and felt like I understood the subject matter better.... Well, lets hope I learned it all well.


Yeah, in the last month or so when I stopped trying to coordinate with them, I've been way more productive. I mean, it was getting ridiculous to the point where they'd ask me to e-mail a 3-week schedule to them so that THEY could be on track. What am I, their secretary??

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:33 pm

theavrock wrote:Do well on your exams all who have them. I refuse to say good luck.

"The best of luck of all is
the luck you make for yourself."
Douglas MacArthur


"Better to be lucky than to be good."
The Bunk


ilovesf wrote:Wow a lot of us have exams tomorrow! I have civ pro at 8:30 :|


Ks tomorrow, but all my exams are at 2PM. I'm lucky like that, but unlucky in that I am sorely unprepared.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

Postby theavrock » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:53 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:
theavrock wrote:Do well on your exams all who have them. I refuse to say good luck.

"The best of luck of all is
the luck you make for yourself."
Douglas MacArthur


"Better to be lucky than to be good."
The Bunk


When it comes to luck you make your own - The Boss




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