What do you hate most about law school?

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What do you hate most about LS?

The curve
91
37%
The gunners
33
13%
The assigned work
14
6%
The unassigned work
17
7%
The professors
4
2%
The economy
90
36%
 
Total votes: 249

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby ph14 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:15 am

thedive wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:Memos, and it's not even close

+1


While memos are a huge time-sink and not the most fun thing, they wouldn't be bad at all if it wasn't for the curve. The only choices that should be up there are the curve and the economy.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Renzo » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:16 am

What do you hate most about law school?


All the time spent in, and preparing for, the classes.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby bjsesq » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:18 am

There is gonna be a difference between classes. As of right now: I hate the professors the most. Sure, there are some cool profs. There are also a significant amount of pompous douchebags who constantly flex on law students and think it is acceptable. Fuck them.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Gecko of Doom » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:44 am

Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:46 am

Gecko of Doom wrote:Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.


What's wrong with you people? I could take the curve and the economy. It's the gunners (2L gunners are the worst, btw), that make me want to pound my head against the desk until I lose consciousness just to escape their inane bullshit.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby ph14 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:48 am

mrloblaw wrote:
Gecko of Doom wrote:Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.


What's wrong with you people? I could take the curve and the economy. It's the gunners (2L gunners are the worst, btw), that make me want to pound my head against the desk until I lose consciousness just to escape their inane bullshit.


In my section at least, the gunners are quite tame. In fact, I don't think we really have anyone that truly qualifies for the title.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:58 am

ph14 wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:
Gecko of Doom wrote:Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.


What's wrong with you people? I could take the curve and the economy. It's the gunners (2L gunners are the worst, btw), that make me want to pound my head against the desk until I lose consciousness just to escape their inane bullshit.


In my section at least, the gunners are quite tame. In fact, I don't think we really have anyone that truly qualifies for the title.


I think I lost all my patience for mindless droning as a humanities major in undergrad. As a quick rule of thumb, I take a raised hand in class as a sign that someone very likely needs to be punched in the face. The presumption is, of course, can be rebutted.
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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Holly Golightly » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:08 am

Journal.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:09 am

The material. And the actual physical building itself.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Gecko of Doom » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:15 am

ph14 wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:
Gecko of Doom wrote:Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.


What's wrong with you people? I could take the curve and the economy. It's the gunners (2L gunners are the worst, btw), that make me want to pound my head against the desk until I lose consciousness just to escape their inane bullshit.


In my section at least, the gunners are quite tame. In fact, I don't think we really have anyone that truly qualifies for the title.

This. If we had them, I'm sure I'd hate them, but everyone in my section is pretty cool in that respect.

Also, to whoever mentioned the 8% pumpkin ale: what kind is it? I have a nasty LRW assignment due on Wednesday, and that sounds like exactly what I need to make Tuesday evening less miserable.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:06 am

Antilles Haven wrote:The material. And the actual physical building itself.

BU?

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby IAFG » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:11 am

Definitely the curve. My special-snowflake-liberal-arts-background self just hates it so much.

Even in a better economy, it just makes me sad that half of everyone has to be below average.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Bildungsroman » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:38 am

IAFG wrote:Definitely the curve. My special-snowflake-liberal-arts-background self just hates it so much.

Even in a better economy, it just makes me sad that half of everyone has to be below average.

Obviously the curve itself isn't that bad, but I think people may be referring to the way that the curve makes classmates act. I haven't experienced it personally, but I've definitely heard accounts of people hiding books and engaging in other douchey toolishness at law schools because some people see the curve and think "that means it's a competition against my classmates, and their loss is my win."

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby JusticeHarlan » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:20 am

Law school is great most of the time. It's when a bunch of things come together that it starts to suck, like when a graded memo during 1L throws off everything else you have to do, or fall of 2L when you're dealing with OCI/journal/class.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby 69Coronet » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:23 am

Absolutely the economy, no question about that.

Second is Legal Practice Skills (Legal Writing), with the curve coming in a close third.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby 174 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:23 am

IAFG wrote:My special-snowflake-liberal-arts-background self


Not directed at you, but this personality type was annoyingly common at my law school.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby bostonlawchick » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:34 am

The curve, definitely.

The creeping paranoia that everyone else is doing more than you are even though you're busting your ass is tough to handle. I know that if I could just chill out and do things the way I've always done them I'd be fine, but it's hard to do when it feels like everyone else lives in the library. It sucks feeling like you know stuff backwards and forwards and in the end it won't matter because everyone else does too.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Kabuo » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:53 am

Gecko of Doom wrote:
ph14 wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:
Gecko of Doom wrote:Curve narrowly beats out economy. If it wasn't for the damn curve, I would actually find a good portion of this stuff interesting, enjoyable, and not stressful in the least.

Of course, if it wasn't for the economy, I wouldn't have to worry so much about the damn curve.


What's wrong with you people? I could take the curve and the economy. It's the gunners (2L gunners are the worst, btw), that make me want to pound my head against the desk until I lose consciousness just to escape their inane bullshit.


In my section at least, the gunners are quite tame. In fact, I don't think we really have anyone that truly qualifies for the title.

This. If we had them, I'm sure I'd hate them, but everyone in my section is pretty cool in that respect.

Also, to whoever mentioned the 8% pumpkin ale: what kind is it? I have a nasty LRW assignment due on Wednesday, and that sounds like exactly what I need to make Tuesday evening less miserable.


It's Schlafly, but that might be specific to St Louis. Great stuff.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Kabuo » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:53 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
Antilles Haven wrote:The material. And the actual physical building itself.

BU?


Exactly my first thought.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby nygrrrl » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:38 am

Fighting the curve as a working PT student (as opposed to the non-working ones.)
I have ZERO resentment towards my classmates (hey, I knew what I was getting into - it was
my choice to do it this way) but man, it is incredibly frustrating.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby waxecstatic » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:18 am

I agree wholeheartedly that the curve makes the work primarily about doing it as effectively and tailored to the professor's needs as possible, to the disadvantage of looking at the work for what it is, and it's purpose in becoming a lawyer. I don't understand why people care about a gunner, who is basically just someone who is fervently interested in the subject, as opposed to the majority of the class that is on facebook anyway. At least they provide you with a window of time to catch up and organize your thoughts on what was just mentioned.

The worst in my opinion are the people whose maturity level is so low that they casually text while the prof is speaking, and in some cases, look at the person whom they are texting, and smile and laugh.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby 174 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:25 pm

waxecstatic wrote:The worst in my opinion are the people whose maturity level is so low that they casually text while the prof is speaking, and in some cases, look at the person whom they are texting, and smile and laugh.

No fun allowed guys.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby crossarmant » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:49 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:Memos, and it's not even close


+1

I only have LRW once a week and there's always a bunch of work to do for it, its only 2 credits and my professor is incredibly intense and intimidating. She spent an entire 15 minute conference ripping me a new one about my practice memo and then was like "you did well," and ended to conference. That and on top of all the reading and studying for other substantive classes, I often forget about LRW work.

Though, the curve is definitely the enemy. I went into my one midterm stressed because while I knew everything and could relate it and explain it properly and adequately, I just felt that wasn't enough. You can't help but look around the room and think "What is it that everyone else is doing? Who do I know I'm doing better than," etc. It makes it unreasonably competitive, especially ITE.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby dreakol » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:15 pm

waxecstatic wrote:
The worst in my opinion are the people whose maturity level is so low that they casually text while the prof is speaking, and in some cases, look at the person whom they are texting, and smile and laugh.



tyft

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby MrAnon » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:18 pm

That they lie about job stats.

That the dean makes over 300k per year. (What does he do all day to create that much value?)

That the professors are delusional about prospects for grads.




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