What do you hate most about law school?

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What do you hate most about LS?

The curve
91
37%
The gunners
33
13%
The assigned work
14
6%
The unassigned work
17
7%
The professors
4
2%
The economy
90
36%
 
Total votes: 249

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby kwais » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:02 am

c3pO4 wrote:
adonai wrote:
kwais wrote:I know I might get pounded for this one, but what I honestly hate the most about law school is the "too-cool for school" crap.
If you talk with someone about jobs it always "why are you thinking about jobs."
If you wait to talk to the professor after the class to be respectful, you are a gunner.
If people find out you've been to office hours more than once, you are a gunner.
If you start a casual law related conversation at a bar, you are a gunner.

It's like a race to the bottom and it's weird. The anti-gunners are far more pretentious to me than the gunners are annoying.
I guess that makes me a gunner :(

The thing is the people who respond negatively to all of the above all talk about "competition" and the curve and all sorts of things amongst themselves. It is really no different with them either, which is quite hypocritical. The only difference I see is that they're talkers, but not doers.


some of us really are too cool for school because we realize we're paying exorbitant amounts of money to learn nothing of practical use and just counting down the days until biglaw. sorry u mad. if i loved school i'd have gotten a phd or some crap. I came to lawl school b/c it's a means to an end. a means I happen to find really boring and stupid.

"thinking about jobs" is tite - that's anti-gunner. Gunner is gunning for grades instead of hustling for jobs. All 4 of the things you mentioned are pretty normal.

The annoying thing is when some kid starts arguing with the prof in class for 15 minutes and tries to be an amateur prof.


not mad here. enjoying school, enjoying the material, generally enjoying my classmates. unwilling to throw myself a 3 year pity party. sorry u mad

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby c3pO4 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:13 am

kwais wrote:not mad here. enjoying school, enjoying the material, generally enjoying my classmates.unwilling to throw myself a 3 year pity party. sorry u mad


aight well glad no one's mad :).

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby whuts4lunch » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:33 am

the general lonely feeling that accompanies reading alone quietly for 4-5 hours/day

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby ilovesf » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:28 am

whuts4lunch wrote:the general lonely feeling that accompanies reading alone quietly for 4-5 hours/day

i often get a study room with my friends in the library and we hang out there and do our reading.. that helps quite a bit :)

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby mrloblaw » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 am

c3pO4 wrote:
adonai wrote:
kwais wrote:I know I might get pounded for this one, but what I honestly hate the most about law school is the "too-cool for school" crap.
If you talk with someone about jobs it always "why are you thinking about jobs."
If you wait to talk to the professor after the class to be respectful, you are a gunner.
If people find out you've been to office hours more than once, you are a gunner.
If you start a casual law related conversation at a bar, you are a gunner.

It's like a race to the bottom and it's weird. The anti-gunners are far more pretentious to me than the gunners are annoying.
I guess that makes me a gunner :(

The thing is the people who respond negatively to all of the above all talk about "competition" and the curve and all sorts of things amongst themselves. It is really no different with them either, which is quite hypocritical. The only difference I see is that they're talkers, but not doers.


some of us really are too cool for school because we realize we're paying exorbitant amounts of money to learn nothing of practical use and just counting down the days until biglaw. sorry u mad. if i loved school i'd have gotten a phd or some crap. I came to lawl school b/c it's a means to an end. a means I happen to find really boring and stupid.

"thinking about jobs" is tite - that's anti-gunner. Gunner is gunning for grades instead of hustling for jobs. All 4 of the things you mentioned are pretty normal.

The annoying thing is when some kid starts arguing with the prof in class for 15 minutes and tries to be an amateur prof.


I did love school when I was legitimately studying things. Now that I'm in lawl school, I find myself investigating the absolute most trivial things using the otherwise shelved scientific method and statistical analysis. Screwing with the gunners makes for some pretty lulzy studies.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby romothesavior » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:19 am

Law Review. That is just as mindless as it gets.

Also hate people who think the day-to-day work and in-class stuff is the most important thing to success. And the people who have no fun. It's lawl school, brahs. Lighten up.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Ty Webb » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:46 am

If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby JusticeHarlan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:55 am

jarofsoup wrote:
kwais wrote:I know I might get pounded for this one, but what I honestly hate the most about law school is the "too-cool for school" crap.
If you talk with someone about jobs it always "why are you thinking about jobs."
If you wait to talk to the professor after the class to be respectful, you are a gunner.
If people find out you've been to office hours more than once, you are a gunner.
If you start a casual law related conversation at a bar, you are a gunner.

It's like a race to the bottom and it's weird. The anti-gunners are far more pretentious to me than the gunners are annoying.
I guess that makes me a gunner :(



You got it all wrong. It is if you raise your hand in class every five minutes and then argue with the teacher over every answer they give saying that what they are saying is "unfair" does "not make sense" or etc... you are a gunner. It is not gunnerish to save your questions for office hours or to talk to your teacher after class. Those are anti-gunner moves.

Nah bro, there're are different kinds of gunners. You're describing a normal gunner, while kwais sounds more like a stealth gunner.

Those are even worse.

jk

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby keg411 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:57 am

Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."


You say that now, but lawyers breed more lawyers. Trust me.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby OnlyRkNRollButILkeIt » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:21 am

Gunners turning around from their seats in the front row and answering a student's question before the professor can.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby kwais » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:45 am

Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."


sociopathic poster is sociopathic. I give you permission to go ahead and consider yourself a failure pre-procreation

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Ty Webb » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:05 am

kwais wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."


sociopathic poster is sociopathic. I give you permission to go ahead and consider yourself a failure pre-procreation


If you don't see the fish at the table, you're the fish.

If you don't recognize the social failures in your law school class...

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Extension_Cord » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:05 am

OnlyRkNRollButILkeIt wrote:Gunners turning around from their seats in the front row and answering a student's question before the professor can.


HAHA, that happens at your school? Thats too funny, I would laugh my ass off. I hate when a professor cold calls someone and the second the professor finishes his question, or even before the gunners will shoot their hand up in anticipation the person wont know the answer. Atleast wait til theres a moment of silence or both professor and student finish speaking. Jeesh.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby dreakol » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:15 am

Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.


credited

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby OnlyRkNRollButILkeIt » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:59 pm

Extension_Cord wrote:
OnlyRkNRollButILkeIt wrote:Gunners turning around from their seats in the front row and answering a student's question before the professor can.


HAHA, that happens at your school? Thats too funny, I would laugh my ass off. I hate when a professor cold calls someone and the second the professor finishes his question, or even before the gunners will shoot their hand up in anticipation the person wont know the answer. Atleast wait til theres a moment of silence or both professor and student finish speaking. Jeesh.


I guess my post was misleading. It has only happened once, but it was glorious.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby crossarmant » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:30 pm

You know, I can't particularly fault gunners for their misunderstanding or desire for elaboration, but fucking christ, I am tired of hearing their voices!

"Anyone in class care to answer?"

*the same 5 fucking people's hands go up*

Sometimes their annoying voices just grate on my nerves. Doesn't help we're all in the same classes for the entire semester, so they aren't merely annoying in one class, they're mind-obliteratingly annoying in every single class every single day. And they're wrong half the time too!

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby romothesavior » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:37 pm

Ty Webb wrote:If you don't see the fish at the table, you're the fish.

If you don't recognize the social failures in your law school class...

I dislike a decent number of people in my class, and am annoyed by an even greater number. But the vast majority of people in my class are good people who I like to be around. Guess that makes me a social failure?

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby c3pO4 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:37 pm

crossarmant wrote:You know, I can't particularly fault gunners for their misunderstanding or desire for elaboration, but fucking christ, I am tired of hearing their voices!

"Anyone in class care to answer?"

*the same 5 fucking people's hands go up*

Sometimes their annoying voices just grate on my nerves. Doesn't help we're all in the same classes for the entire semester, so they aren't merely annoying in one class, they're mind-obliteratingly annoying in every single class every single day. And they're wrong half the time too!


Half of them will quiet down substantially next semester, once they get their shitty grades.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby kwais » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:32 pm

Ty Webb wrote:
kwais wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."


sociopathic poster is sociopathic. I give you permission to go ahead and consider yourself a failure pre-procreation


If you don't see the fish at the table, you're the fish.

If you don't recognize the social failures in your law school class...


wrong. outside of TLS circle jerk, the person who hates most of the people they are surrounded by, is the social failure. The person who gives people the benefit of the doubt is head and shoulders above you in every interpersonal measure.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby 071816 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:34 pm

c3pO4 wrote:
kwais wrote:not mad here. enjoying school, enjoying the material, generally enjoying my classmates.unwilling to throw myself a 3 year pity party. sorry u mad


aight well glad no one's mad :).

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LOL

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Ty Webb » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:12 pm

kwais wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:
kwais wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:If you have positive things to say about more than a few people in your law school, then there's a good chance that you're insufferable and just don't know it.

Law school attracts the people whose parents didn't have the balls to tell them they were wrong. Ever.

I'll consider myself a failure if my child decides to go to law school.

I'll consider myself redeemed if my child can sit quietly during Con Law while other students are describing their student abroad experience as providing "diversity."


sociopathic poster is sociopathic. I give you permission to go ahead and consider yourself a failure pre-procreation


If you don't see the fish at the table, you're the fish.

If you don't recognize the social failures in your law school class...


wrong. outside of TLS circle jerk, the person who hates most of the people they are surrounded by, is the social failure. The person who gives people the benefit of the doubt is head and shoulders above you in every interpersonal measure.


No. Because I don't surround myself with them. The law school does. I surround myself with the very small number of people who don't argue incessantly about inane bullshit, don't proudly give their study groups names, and don't snort when they laugh at their own jokes.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Bildungsroman » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:10 pm

Ty Webb wrote:
kwais wrote:
wrong. outside of TLS circle jerk, the person who hates most of the people they are surrounded by, is the social failure. The person who gives people the benefit of the doubt is head and shoulders above you in every interpersonal measure.


No. Because I don't surround myself with them. The law school does. I surround myself with the very small number of people who don't argue incessantly about inane bullshit, don't proudly give their study groups names, and don't snort when they laugh at their own jokes.

Wow, your school sounds fucking terrible. I go to a school with a reputation for people being socially unbearable and I still enjoy interacting with the vast majority of the student body (and I hate pretension, striver behavior, and intellectual masturbators with an intense passion).

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby BobSacamano » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:45 pm

3L here to tell you that it gets better.

Wait... no, sorry, it gets way, way worse. Between a full course load, LR, and working at my firm when I'm not at school I have no free time of my own, and I'm miserable at school and at work. My classes are impossibly boring now. I have no drive to succeed or better myself in any way. I can't remember why I wanted to go to law school or be a lawyer.

The lack of a post-grad job is probably fueling my misery, to be fair.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby Magnolia » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:19 pm

northwood wrote:rank the gunners and post... give them creative names that most others can figure out, but not them and see how they react....

you could even do a playoff format. have the top ranked gunner vs the lowest ranked gunner to decide teh champion gunner of them all ( and then have an olympic ceremony type thing)

then bask in the lulz

My friends and I take bets on which gunner will speak the most each week, or the over/under on how many times a particular gunner will raise their hand. Loser buys a round of drinks.

The gunners are way less annoying when their constant talking gets you a free happy hour.

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Re: What do you hate most about law school?

Postby keg411 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:42 pm

Answer changed to this:

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