Socratic Method

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What are your thoughts on the socratic method?

I like it alot. I find it helpful and superior to standard lecturing.
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22%
I personally like it, but I find it doesn't contribute to helping the majority learn or creating an effective class overall.
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16%
I don't personally like it, but it has its value as a teaching method and I support its ongoing use.
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18%
I don't like it, and I find that it is an unnecessary and archaic teaching method with costs far exceeding any benefits.
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42%
I have an opinion far different from these options which I will explain in a posted reply.
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3%
 
Total votes: 96

kahechsof
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Re: Socratic Method

Postby kahechsof » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:09 pm

"I have an opinion far different from these options which I will explain in a posted reply."

I have studied in an institution which actually used the socratic method, and I can tell you- what you see in law school has no relation to what socrates did.
Cold calling is about making sure you read the material assigned. It has no relation to learning. Having students recite the facts of the case does not help them or the other students learn any differently than the professor just saying them, or assuming you already know what you are supposed to have read.

The socratic method is supposed to be that the teacher leads the discussion by asking thoughtful questions which cause the students to discover themselves what is to be learned. I have never seen a professor in law school do that.
I have seen them ask thoughtful questions, and then if the answer given was not to their liking, they eventually just spit out what they want to say. I rarely seen interaction between students during class. I rarely see sides forming, and different possibilities coming out.

Part of it is that there is simply not enough time, and part of it is that the professors are not teaching anything very intellectual. I have rarely walked out of class with the feeling that I needed to think about an idea further because I wasn't sure about. I do sometimes not understand an idea, but that is easily rectified by just asking the professor to clarify. I don't pace the library pondering anything from class.

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Re: Socratic Method

Postby thegrayman » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:31 pm

first few class sessions in torts, my professor cold-called someone. the person hadn't read and was like "oh I'm sorry I thought that the syllabus had that reading for next class session so I haven't read it yet." The prof. was fairly irked by the student and went on this little rant about how people need to come prepared to class, etc. After that she tells the student it's ok, but in the future she should come to class prepared. Then, she literally goes, "So, Ms. XXX" and proceeds to ask her the EXACT same question. It was brutal. That was when I decided I would rather pull an all-nighter reading than show up to torts unprepared... :shock:

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Lasers
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Re: Socratic Method

Postby Lasers » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:25 am

all my teachers use the socratic method.

with that said, i still haven't been cold called once in any class.

must be a record.

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Grizz
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Re: Socratic Method

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:14 am

I've had professors make fun of me on cold calls. Who cares. I just say dumb shit. I barely read. Fuck them.

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Lasers
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Re: Socratic Method

Postby Lasers » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:26 pm

Grizz wrote:I've had professors make fun of me on cold calls. Who cares. I just say dumb shit. I barely read. Fuck them.

that's the spirit.

kill the exams and you'll be the one laughing. :twisted:

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Re: Socratic Method

Postby jessuf » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:42 am

Two of my professors use the socratic method. I've been called on once by one of them in the very beginning of the semester. I think they only call on the wall flowers. No point in calling on a gunner for something because they will be blabbing the rest of the class anyway. My goal in order to hopefully avoid being cold called when I don't feel too prepared is to say two intelligent things per class that don't involve saying, "THE LAW IS GREY ON THIS AREA" or "SO IMAGINE THIS REALLY FAR-FETCHED HYPOTHETICAL I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASES FOR TODAY..."


I like and dislike the socratic method. On the one hand, I like hearing from people other than the same 5 gunners. However, usually, these quiet people don't do the reading and have no idea what is going on in class, so when the professor refuses to call on someone else and instead makes the next 30 minutes painful and awkward for the person, I tune out, hit up facebook, and don't learn anything.




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