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Re: Memo Woes

Postby Iceman389 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:00 pm

If only this word limit was 100 words longer I would be home free.....

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby alicrimson » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:46 am

Thought I'd seek out the wisdom of the LRW gods...I know that in a string citation you cite federal before state but what if you have two district courts in your string? Any advice? Thanks so much.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:00 am

alicrimson wrote:Thought I'd seek out the wisdom of the LRW gods...I know that in a string citation you cite federal before state but what if you have two district courts in your string? Any advice? Thanks so much.


Look at the rule for order of authorities. Maybe 1.3? If not, it's part of 1.2. I don't have my bluebook in front of me.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby TooOld4This » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:13 am

alicrimson wrote:Thought I'd seek out the wisdom of the LRW gods...I know that in a string citation you cite federal before state but what if you have two district courts in your string? Any advice? Thanks so much.


Reverse chronological order, I believe.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:06 am

TooOld4This wrote:
alicrimson wrote:Thought I'd seek out the wisdom of the LRW gods...I know that in a string citation you cite federal before state but what if you have two district courts in your string? Any advice? Thanks so much.


Reverse chronological order, I believe.


I know he came here looking for a specific answer...but with blue book stuff it's better to point him to the rule. District courts are treated as one, and so are CoA, but they are not both treated as one. Courts of claims are listed in between. Bankruptcy courts aren't grouped with district courts. People tend to make these kinds of stupid mistakes when you provide blanket rules with no explanation. E.g. Just assuming all federal courts are listed in reverse chron.

The rule is 1.4 btw...more awake now.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:56 pm

I've got one last try before I'm settled as being at the bottom of my LRW class. I'll put the work into it (even though it means I gotta take time away from studying for finals), but I gotta say something that's already been said:

Curved LRW in a 12 person class blows.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:58 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:I've got one last try before I'm settled as being at the bottom of my LRW class. I'll put the work into it (even though it means I gotta take time away from studying for finals), but I gotta say something that's already been said:

Curved LRW in a 12 person class blows.


Not a statistician here, but why does it blow? Just the chance you happen to get a 12 person section of great memo writers? But it seems to be equally likely you could get people who aren't great memo writers?

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:14 pm

ph14 wrote:
TheFutureLawyer wrote:I've got one last try before I'm settled as being at the bottom of my LRW class. I'll put the work into it (even though it means I gotta take time away from studying for finals), but I gotta say something that's already been said:

Curved LRW in a 12 person class blows.


Not a statistician here, but why does it blow? Just the chance you happen to get a 12 person section of great memo writers? But it seems to be equally likely you could get people who aren't great memo writers?


Hey asshole, I'm trying to vent over here. Could you not fuck that up by bringing math and logic into this?

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:23 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:
ph14 wrote:
TheFutureLawyer wrote:I've got one last try before I'm settled as being at the bottom of my LRW class. I'll put the work into it (even though it means I gotta take time away from studying for finals), but I gotta say something that's already been said:

Curved LRW in a 12 person class blows.


Not a statistician here, but why does it blow? Just the chance you happen to get a 12 person section of great memo writers? But it seems to be equally likely you could get people who aren't great memo writers?


Hey asshole, I'm trying to vent over here. Could you not fuck that up by bringing math and logic into this?


You're a 1L now, you need to step your game up. Bitch about arbitrary grading or something :mrgreen:.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:35 pm

ph14 wrote:
TheFutureLawyer wrote:
ph14 wrote:
TheFutureLawyer wrote:I've got one last try before I'm settled as being at the bottom of my LRW class. I'll put the work into it (even though it means I gotta take time away from studying for finals), but I gotta say something that's already been said:

Curved LRW in a 12 person class blows.


Not a statistician here, but why does it blow? Just the chance you happen to get a 12 person section of great memo writers? But it seems to be equally likely you could get people who aren't great memo writers?


Hey asshole, I'm trying to vent over here. Could you not fuck that up by bringing math and logic into this?


You're a 1L now, you need to step your game up. Bitch about arbitrary grading or something :mrgreen:.


That's where I was headed. I can't say that I know for sure it's arbitrary because I haven't seen anyone else's work, but I doubt that my work is really that much worse than the average person's. It especially sucks because the prof won't go over specifics with what you did wrong, just making general comments. Also, the blinded grading is bullshit, cause if they want to, or even if they just have a pretty decent memory, they can tell who's memo belongs to who.

Now, back to Torts, followed by Civ Pro. What an awesome night three weeks this is going to be!

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby freefall21 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:58 pm

Reread my memo (stupid idea - turned it in last week) and realized I forgot to go back and double check a couple of the pinpoints... I'm pretty sure they are wrong, but scared to check now. Any ideas how much this would affect my grade?? I feel like having the wrong page number is probably looked down on... a lot...

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:58 pm

freefall21 wrote:Reread my memo (stupid idea - turned it in last week) and realized I forgot to go back and double check a couple of the pinpoints... I'm pretty sure they are wrong, but scared to check now. Any ideas how much this would affect my grade?? I feel like having the wrong page number is probably looked down on... a lot...


Doubtful a professor actually checks. Anyways, can't worry about it now, focus on finals.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby blong4133 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:39 pm

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:55 pm

ph14 wrote:
freefall21 wrote:Reread my memo (stupid idea - turned it in last week) and realized I forgot to go back and double check a couple of the pinpoints... I'm pretty sure they are wrong, but scared to check now. Any ideas how much this would affect my grade?? I feel like having the wrong page number is probably looked down on... a lot...


Doubtful a professor actually checks. Anyways, can't worry about it now, focus on finals.


Wrong. I got mine back with comments today, and I had a pin cite corrected for me.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:57 pm

LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:
ph14 wrote:
freefall21 wrote:Reread my memo (stupid idea - turned it in last week) and realized I forgot to go back and double check a couple of the pinpoints... I'm pretty sure they are wrong, but scared to check now. Any ideas how much this would affect my grade?? I feel like having the wrong page number is probably looked down on... a lot...


Doubtful a professor actually checks. Anyways, can't worry about it now, focus on finals.


Wrong. I got mine back with comments today, and I had a pin cite corrected for me.


Sounds like you deserve it.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:02 am

ph14 wrote:
LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:
ph14 wrote:
freefall21 wrote:Reread my memo (stupid idea - turned it in last week) and realized I forgot to go back and double check a couple of the pinpoints... I'm pretty sure they are wrong, but scared to check now. Any ideas how much this would affect my grade?? I feel like having the wrong page number is probably looked down on... a lot...


Doubtful a professor actually checks. Anyways, can't worry about it now, focus on finals.


Wrong. I got mine back with comments today, and I had a pin cite corrected for me.


Sounds like you deserve it.


Well... yeah. It was an incorrect pin cite.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ilovesf » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:22 am

i know my prof checks that. she really ragged on my friend who incorrectly pin cited and said he should be careful of plagiarism.

anyway, my memo has been done for three weeks.. but now i am double checking it to use as my writing sample. i thought i would never have to look at this again :(

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby AlexanderSupertramp » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:36 am

Mine's submitted 20 hours before the deadline! Yeah! Time to focus on Property, Civil Procedure, Contracts, and Torts.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby adonai » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:37 am

Do LRW grades usually get released earlier than the substantive classes?

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:38 am

adonai wrote:Do LRW grades usually get released earlier than the substantive classes?


Mine doesn't.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby adonai » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:37 am

ph14 wrote:
adonai wrote:Do LRW grades usually get released earlier than the substantive classes?


Mine doesn't.

I'd imagine there would be no reason for them to take 1.5 months to grade 20 memos. LRW professors seem to have too much time as it is.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ilovesf » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:40 am

adonai wrote:
ph14 wrote:
adonai wrote:Do LRW grades usually get released earlier than the substantive classes?


Mine doesn't.

I'd imagine there would be no reason for them to take 1.5 months to grade 20 memos. LRW professors seem to have too much time as it is.

:?: Are you serious? As far as I know, all of our LWR professors have real jobs, mine works at the CA Court of Appeal and I know another works for the DOJ, and another for a firm. Our LWR grades come out at the same time as our other grades because they simply don't release them earlier. They don't release any grades during finals because they don't want to distract us from studying.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby adonai » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:00 am

ilovesf wrote:
adonai wrote:
ph14 wrote:
adonai wrote:Do LRW grades usually get released earlier than the substantive classes?


Mine doesn't.

I'd imagine there would be no reason for them to take 1.5 months to grade 20 memos. LRW professors seem to have too much time as it is.

:?: Are you serious? As far as I know, all of our LWR professors have real jobs, mine works at the CA Court of Appeal and I know another works for the DOJ, and another for a firm. Our LWR grades come out at the same time as our other grades because they simply don't release them earlier. They don't release any grades during finals because they don't want to distract us from studying.

At my school, most if not all of the LRW profs only teach their one or two sections of LRW. Since they're full-time, I'd imagine they don't have a side job. I guess at other schools teaching LRW is their side job.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby ph14 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:58 am

adonai wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
adonai wrote:
ph14 wrote:Mine doesn't.

I'd imagine there would be no reason for them to take 1.5 months to grade 20 memos. LRW professors seem to have too much time as it is.

:?: Are you serious? As far as I know, all of our LWR professors have real jobs, mine works at the CA Court of Appeal and I know another works for the DOJ, and another for a firm. Our LWR grades come out at the same time as our other grades because they simply don't release them earlier. They don't release any grades during finals because they don't want to distract us from studying.

At my school, most if not all of the LRW profs only teach their one or two sections of LRW. Since they're full-time, I'd imagine they don't have a side job. I guess at other schools teaching LRW is their side job.


At my school the LRW profs are full-time employees. But I don't think they realize grades early because they want to let us have an ignorant (and thus blissful) winter break. Which I can't say I mind too much.

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Re: Memo Woes

Postby 1coolnerd » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:50 am

Why is it against the honor code to have another student look over your work?




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