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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby jessuf » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:49 pm

minuit wrote:
Jessuf wrote:Also, the judicial yellowbook has everyone's address, phone number, fax number, e-mail address, clerk's phone numbers and e-mails, etc. etc. I used it to get some addresses today, and it told me what local organizations the judges were involved in, where they worked previously, etc. Pretty helpful in tailoring my cover letter AND for potentially stalking them down.


Did you pay for it? How did you access it?


My career services office had a copy

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby acrossthelake » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:09 pm

69Coronet wrote:Any opinions on trying to get something paid for a 1L internship?
I'd carry papers around all day if it was a legal internship and I was getting paid to do it.
It'd help me turn down more of my loans, which would be most excellent for my future.
I'm almost considering trying to do something paid instead of a judicial internship.
If I didn't find anything, I could then work at the local DA's office where I used to work, which would, at the very least, be a legal job, even though it would be unpaid...


Depends on the strength of your school and your resume.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby jwmalone87 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:20 pm

I'm thinking of taking a 1L summer internship at the Public Defenders office. Does this risk pigeonholing me as a "PD" guy if I have a change of heart and want to do other work?

For example, I also have a strong interest to do private practice. At 2L OCI, will many firms look at PD experience negatively and just assume that this is the career path that I really want to do?

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby ran12 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:29 pm

jwmalone87 wrote:I'm thinking of taking a 1L summer internship at the Public Defenders office. Does this risk pigeonholing me as a "PD" guy if I have a change of heart and want to do other work?

For example, I also have a strong interest to do private practice. At 2L OCI, will many firms look at PD experience negatively and just assume that this is the career path that I really want to do?


Some firms, esp. the more conservative ones, will look at a PD internship in less favorable terms than others. However, considering the types of internships that 1Ls get, I don't think most firms will look at is as negatively.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby adonai » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:11 pm

When in doubt, should we e-mail job apps? Also, should everything go into a single pdf, or should we separate cover letter, writing sample, resume all in their own pdfs? Remember seeing this somewhere on the forum, but after searching a long time I couldn't find it. Thanks

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby Veyron » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:18 pm

jwmalone87 wrote:I'm thinking of taking a 1L summer internship at the Public Defenders office. Does this risk pigeonholing me as a "PD" guy if I have a change of heart and want to do other work?

For example, I also have a strong interest to do private practice. At 2L OCI, will many firms look at PD experience negatively and just assume that this is the career path that I really want to do?


Answer to any question by a 1L that has a summer job:

You'll be fine bro.

Answer to any question by a 1L that doesn't have a summer job:

You're fucked bro.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby BEAST_mode » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:24 am

Besides 1L SA, what is the most favorable summer gig heading into 2L OCI? I'm particuarly interested in fed. distirct/state supreme internships for the summer. Decided its probably not even worth applying to COA (non t-14 t1). Through ties, I will likely have a spot at a midlaw firm (30-50) in a secondary market that I'm not terribly interested in. I understand that 1L summer is more about having an experience you can discuss candidly, but which looks better on paper for 2L OCI biglaw? Fed District/State Supreme or unpaid (assumed) midlaw?

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby dood » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:36 am

BEAST_mode wrote:Besides 1L SA, what is the most favorable summer gig heading into 2L OCI? I'm particuarly interested in fed. distirct/state supreme internships for the summer. Decided its probably not even worth applying to COA (non t-14 t1). Through ties, I will likely have a spot at a midlaw firm (30-50) in a secondary market that I'm not terribly interested in. I understand that 1L summer is more about having an experience you can discuss candidly, but which looks better on paper for 2L OCI biglaw? Fed District/State Supreme or unpaid (assumed) midlaw?


u got everything just about right. COA appeals looks best on paper, everything else is equal (doesnt matter).

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby gdane » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:49 am

I have to get really fancy paper for my fed district court internship apps. :| I don't have time to buy this stuff. why can't judges just accept good old fax paper?

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:57 am

gdane wrote:I have to get really fancy paper for my fed district court internship apps. :| I don't have time to buy this stuff. why can't judges just accept good old fax paper?


They do. Don't waste your money. Especially don't buy "resume" paper. They sell executive class paper the same weight for half the price.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby crit_racer » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:54 am

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:08 pm

For diversity 1L programs, do they favor Dec 1st apps, or is it actually okay if I apply after finals?

ETA:
I get that 12/1 is preferred for general applying to firms, I'm inquiring about firms where there's like an actual scholarship program with a deadline in like February where they're asking for an essay and letter of rec, etc.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:14 pm

blowhard wrote:
gdane wrote:I have to get really fancy paper for my fed district court internship apps. :| I don't have time to buy this stuff. why can't judges just accept good old fax paper?


They do. Don't waste your money. Especially don't buy "resume" paper. They sell executive class paper the same weight for half the price.


FWIW, I used normal, cheap printer paper for everything in the apps I sent out as 1L for judicial internships. I don't think it matters.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby ilovesf » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:18 pm

I really don't think I'm going to make the Dec 1 deadline for applying to CoA justices. My first final is Dec 1st and I don't think I can really take enough time off to get all of my mailings together. How big of a deal is it?

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby ph14 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:19 pm

ilovesf wrote:I really don't think I'm going to make the Dec 1 deadline for applying to CoA justices. My first final is Dec 1st and I don't think I can really take enough time off to get all of my mailings together. How big of a deal is it?


I'm not applying until after finals personally (late December).

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby gdane » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:59 am

You guys can do it. It does not take much time to put a resume and coverletter together..for the writing sample, just send your final memo.

Calljudges' chambers and email firms' recruiting contacts. This process took me 20 minutes total. The clerks were friendly and the firms responded on the same day.

On november 30, I'm sending out six mailings so they get to their destinations on dec 1.

Good luck everyone..

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby shock259 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:25 am

Sent my CDO a cover letter to review 2 weeks ago, they still haven't gotten back to me. THANKS FOR THE HELP WITH THE JOB

Anyway, I gotta figure out how to make my printer work right so I can mail have it print the addresses on my envelopes. Do printers do that? I guess I could also get those big roles stickers that people put the stickers on the envelopes. Maybe that's a better idea for mass mailing.

I hope my printer doesn't run out of ink..

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby Gettingstarted1928 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:37 am

shock259 wrote:Sent my CDO a cover letter to review 2 weeks ago, they still haven't gotten back to me. THANKS FOR THE HELP WITH THE JOB

Anyway, I gotta figure out how to make my printer work right so I can mail have it print the addresses on my envelopes. Do printers do that? I guess I could also get those big roles stickers that people put the stickers on the envelopes. Maybe that's a better idea for mass mailing.

I hope my printer doesn't run out of ink..


Yes, some printers can do that, obviously. But why are you applying via mail anyway? I thought the standard procedure was to just email your resume.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby target » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:49 am

acrossthelake wrote:For diversity 1L programs, do they favor Dec 1st apps, or is it actually okay if I apply after finals?

ETA:
I get that 12/1 is preferred for general applying to firms, I'm inquiring about firms where there's like an actual scholarship program with a deadline in like February where they're asking for an essay and letter of rec, etc.


I am trying to send them out as soon as I can. For those that ask for either law school transcript or letter of rec, I will send app out as soon as either one is available.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby target » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:50 am

shock259 wrote:Sent my CDO a cover letter to review 2 weeks ago, they still haven't gotten back to me. THANKS FOR THE HELP WITH THE JOB

Anyway, I gotta figure out how to make my printer work right so I can mail have it print the addresses on my envelopes. Do printers do that? I guess I could also get those big roles stickers that people put the stickers on the envelopes. Maybe that's a better idea for mass mailing.

I hope my printer doesn't run out of ink..


I think you are better off buying mail label, mail merge all addresses and print them out altogether.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:31 pm

ph14 wrote:
ilovesf wrote:I really don't think I'm going to make the Dec 1 deadline for applying to CoA justices. My first final is Dec 1st and I don't think I can really take enough time off to get all of my mailings together. How big of a deal is it?


I'm not applying until after finals personally (late December).


Ditto. I actually just popped in to check that I wasn't the only one, so thanks!

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby thegrayman » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:09 am

When firms say they want transcripts, if you're a 1L do we send undergrad transcripts?

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby ran12 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:22 am

thegrayman wrote:When firms say they want transcripts, if you're a 1L do we send undergrad transcripts?


If they want UG they'll specifically say so. Otherwise it means law school. You'll just have to update your app once grades are out.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby Lasers » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:23 am

ugh, i totally forgot about summer jobs with all this finals prep. i might just apply after finals, but i still don't even know what i want to do this summer. is it bad that i really don't care (seeing as everyone i've talked to says employers don't seem to care what someone does in the summer with a few notable exceptions)?

my resume is totally done and i have a draft of a cover letter which i have to edit and tailor, but i don't even know where to apply to...which seems counter-intuitive.

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Re: 1L Summer Employment

Postby thegrayman » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:47 am

ran12 wrote:
thegrayman wrote:When firms say they want transcripts, if you're a 1L do we send undergrad transcripts?


If they want UG they'll specifically say so. Otherwise it means law school. You'll just have to update your app once grades are out.


so would you forgo sending transcripts altogether or print out an unofficial LS transcript with no grades on it and send that?




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