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To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby lazystudent » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:54 pm

I'm lazy and I procrastinate unless someone makes me do my work. I've been doing well this past month, but I'm starting to watch tv more now and sometimes get a day behind in readings, when I know I should always be ahead in them. I want to do well and I know if I work hard and efficiently I should be able to. Are there any other procrastinators out there who would be interested in pushing each other to do their readings and outlines so that we have a shot at getting near the top of the class, rather than always being on the cusp of falling behind and never being able to catch up?

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby Sandro » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:01 pm

I havent done any work at all this weekend. Sunday 4pm. wooo

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby omninode » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:14 pm

lazystudent wrote:I'm lazy and I procrastinate unless someone makes me do my work. I've been doing well this past month, but I'm starting to watch tv more now and sometimes get a day behind in readings, when I know I should always be ahead in them. I want to do well and I know if I work hard and efficiently I should be able to. Are there any other procrastinators out there who would be interested in pushing each other to do their readings and outlines so that we have a shot at getting near the top of the class, rather than always being on the cusp of falling behind and never being able to catch up?



No. Everyone else wants you to fail so they can get ahead.


It's true.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby lazystudent » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:18 pm

omninode wrote:
lazystudent wrote:I'm lazy and I procrastinate unless someone makes me do my work. I've been doing well this past month, but I'm starting to watch tv more now and sometimes get a day behind in readings, when I know I should always be ahead in them. I want to do well and I know if I work hard and efficiently I should be able to. Are there any other procrastinators out there who would be interested in pushing each other to do their readings and outlines so that we have a shot at getting near the top of the class, rather than always being on the cusp of falling behind and never being able to catch up?



No. Everyone else wants you to fail so they can get ahead.


It's true.


Right, that's why it'd be harder to make it work with classmates - if one benefits the other loses.

However with someone who's not in your class or at your school, there is instead mutual benefit, to the detriment only of unknown parties.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby Geist13 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:36 pm

I'm a pretty serious procrastinator and here's what I do. I do all of my reading for the week on Saturday and Sunday. Sometimes this takes no more than 10 hours. Sometimes its takes over 15. Often, it's rough to get through. However, I do it because I know it means that I don't have to do jack shit during the week. I go to class, go home for lunch and TV, go back to class, go to the gym, then just dick around or drink all night. It makes for a great week. 4 weeks before exams I start outlining. Doing all my reading over the weekend facilitates outlining because it frees up the week for this work. This work schedule got me a 3.9 second semester last year after getting below median trying to work my ass off during first semester.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby mrloblaw » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:49 pm

I skim the readings for class and read the entire casebook for all my classes in the two weeks or so going into finals.

Horrible two weeks, but great semester otherwise.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby PinkCow » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:56 pm

Geist13 wrote:I'm a pretty serious procrastinator and here's what I do. I do all of my reading for the week on Saturday and Sunday. Sometimes this takes no more than 10 hours. Sometimes its takes over 15. Often, it's rough to get through. However, I do it because I know it means that I don't have to do jack shit during the week. I go to class, go home for lunch and TV, go back to class, go to the gym, then just dick around or drink all night. It makes for a great week. 4 weeks before exams I start outlining. Doing all my reading over the weekend facilitates outlining because it frees up the week for this work. This work schedule got me a 3.9 second semester last year after getting below median trying to work my ass off during first semester.


I've done the exact same thing since the start of this semester. Except for this memo that's due that I've put off like a mother, the semester so far has been ***easy*** (and by easy I mean, I'm not staying up until 3 in the morning and hating life like some of my classmates).
Makes for a boring weekend, but a chill week overall.

Glad to know it actually worked for someone.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby spleenworship » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:02 pm

Geist13 wrote:I'm a pretty serious procrastinator and here's what I do. I do all of my reading for the week on Saturday and Sunday. Sometimes this takes no more than 10 hours. Sometimes its takes over 15. Often, it's rough to get through. However, I do it because I know it means that I don't have to do jack shit during the week. I go to class, go home for lunch and TV, go back to class, go to the gym, then just dick around or drink all night. It makes for a great week. 4 weeks before exams I start outlining. Doing all my reading over the weekend facilitates outlining because it frees up the week for this work. This work schedule got me a 3.9 second semester last year after getting below median trying to work my ass off during first semester.


I'm doing it slightly differently:

Work all day Sunday, spend 2-3 hours a night on M-Th, then take Friday night and all day Saturday off. Sometimes I get bored because all my work is done for the week by Wednesday and work a little on my outlines. The only thing throwing me off is the occasional late 8 hour night for the damn memos.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby Geist13 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:14 pm

spleenworship wrote:
Geist13 wrote:I'm a pretty serious procrastinator and here's what I do. I do all of my reading for the week on Saturday and Sunday. Sometimes this takes no more than 10 hours. Sometimes its takes over 15. Often, it's rough to get through. However, I do it because I know it means that I don't have to do jack shit during the week. I go to class, go home for lunch and TV, go back to class, go to the gym, then just dick around or drink all night. It makes for a great week. 4 weeks before exams I start outlining. Doing all my reading over the weekend facilitates outlining because it frees up the week for this work. This work schedule got me a 3.9 second semester last year after getting below median trying to work my ass off during first semester.


I'm doing it slightly differently:

Work all day Sunday, spend 2-3 hours a night on M-Th, then take Friday night and all day Saturday off. Sometimes I get bored because all my work is done for the week by Wednesday and work a little on my outlines. The only thing throwing me off is the occasional late 8 hour night for the damn memos.


Yeah legal writing assignments (and this year, law review bullshit) can throw everything off. But I've found that getting the reading done over the weekend gives me the freedom to just stay up all night one night during the week to pump that stuff out. When you have to worry about reading for class the next day, writing assignments become an even bigger pain.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby lazystudent » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:28 pm

Geist13 wrote:I'm a pretty serious procrastinator and here's what I do. I do all of my reading for the week on Saturday and Sunday. Sometimes this takes no more than 10 hours. Sometimes its takes over 15. Often, it's rough to get through. However, I do it because I know it means that I don't have to do jack shit during the week. I go to class, go home for lunch and TV, go back to class, go to the gym, then just dick around or drink all night. It makes for a great week. 4 weeks before exams I start outlining. Doing all my reading over the weekend facilitates outlining because it frees up the week for this work. This work schedule got me a 3.9 second semester last year after getting below median trying to work my ass off during first semester.


That's pretty much what I've been doing - except I'm trying to do the outlines while I read, and then modify them during/after class sometimes. There's no way I can work most weekdays, I'm just too tired from classes to do anything efficiently. The trick is to keep myself motivated through the weekends to actually do the readings.

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Postby tlstlstls73 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:13 pm

I'm with you. Did my first reading today in a month. Read 1 page. I'm not on LR or MC so I really have nothing but free time and figure I can catch up over the next few weeks. 2L--job lined up, was hired at median, what's the point?

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Postby lazystudent » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:00 pm

tlstlstls73 wrote:I'm with you. Did my first reading today in a month. Read 1 page. I'm not on LR or MC so I really have nothing but free time and figure I can catch up over the next few weeks. 2L--job lined up, was hired at median, what's the point?


Yeah... problem is I'm in 1L.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby tlstlstls73 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:28 pm

lazystudent wrote:
tlstlstls73 wrote:I'm with you. Did my first reading today in a month. Read 1 page. I'm not on LR or MC so I really have nothing but free time and figure I can catch up over the next few weeks. 2L--job lined up, was hired at median, what's the point?


Yeah... problem is I'm in 1L.


Fair enough...How do you think I got to median in the first place. Haven't figured out a shortcut to doing well, unfortunately. But you can get by.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby downing » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:58 pm

I'm convinced that all my peers are studying 24/7. This might not be true, but it's a conviction I haven't been able to rid myself of. I spoke to one or two other people who feel similarly, but I suppose there must be at least a handful of fun loving studying hating students in my class.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby PinkCow » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:07 pm

downing wrote:I'm convinced that all my peers are studying 24/7. This might not be true, but it's a conviction I haven't been able to rid myself of. I spoke to one or two other people who feel similarly, but I suppose there must be at least a handful of fun loving studying hating students in my class.


AKA the bottom half?

I kid I kid

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby bartleby » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:59 am

LRW is truly the only class that is pwning me time-wise. We have an ungraded 4 page assignment due every week. It is literally taking me 3-4 hours to do - even though it is only 4 pages, it's off of 40 pages of closed research. This is bullshit.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:01 pm

I keep all my books at school and don't have my computer out while I'm reading. That way, while I'm at school there's basically nothing I can do but just do the damn work, and leaving without having done the work is an affirmative admission that I'm not going to do it, rather than the slow slide of self-deception that makes up a lot of procrastinatory time. I'm a lot less likely to march out of school saying "yep, not doing my reading" than I am to fuck around on the computer for three hours with my casebook next to me and end up not having done the reading.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby tlstlstls73 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:31 pm

Yea -- computer off while reading is a killer move. It works although is very tough to pull off.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby DreamsInDigital » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:30 pm

Right there with you OP. I fucked around in college and developed a MAJOR procrastination habit. I started this year off pretty well, reading everything 2 or 3 days before class and briefing every case.

The past 2 weeks I've been reading (and sometimes just skimming) right before class. Thankfully I have long enough breaks that this is doable for me, but I don't have time to brief cases or make sure I understand every last thing in the casebook. I've done and felt fine during class discussions, but I know that not doing in depth reading and briefing is going to bite me in the ass come exam time.

I am going to try and get back into some of the habits that people have been mentioning on here
- when I sit down to read, ACTUALLY read. No facebook, no TLS, no gchatting.
- get all my work done at school (so just treat it more like a job).
- not do any work on friday after my last class or Saturday, that way I won't feel too bad about doing a little work on Sunday.

So far my research and reading classes haven't taken up too much time (thankfully they're pass/fail), but one they get more difficult and time consuming my current strategy is definitely not going to cut it.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby spleenworship » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:40 am

bartleby wrote:LRW is truly the only class that is pwning me time-wise. We have an ungraded 4 page assignment due every week. It is literally taking me 3-4 hours to do - even though it is only 4 pages, it's off of 40 pages of closed research. This is bullshit.


That is bullshit.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:42 am

spleenworship wrote:
bartleby wrote:LRW is truly the only class that is pwning me time-wise. We have an ungraded 4 page assignment due every week. It is literally taking me 3-4 hours to do - even though it is only 4 pages, it's off of 40 pages of closed research. This is bullshit.


That is bullshit.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby lazystudent » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:49 am

DreamsInDigital wrote:Right there with you OP. I fucked around in college and developed a MAJOR procrastination habit. I started this year off pretty well, reading everything 2 or 3 days before class and briefing every case.

The past 2 weeks I've been reading (and sometimes just skimming) right before class. Thankfully I have long enough breaks that this is doable for me, but I don't have time to brief cases or make sure I understand every last thing in the casebook. I've done and felt fine during class discussions, but I know that not doing in depth reading and briefing is going to bite me in the ass come exam time.

I am going to try and get back into some of the habits that people have been mentioning on here
- when I sit down to read, ACTUALLY read. No facebook, no TLS, no gchatting.
- get all my work done at school (so just treat it more like a job).
- not do any work on friday after my last class or Saturday, that way I won't feel too bad about doing a little work on Sunday.

So far my research and reading classes haven't taken up too much time (thankfully they're pass/fail), but one they get more difficult and time consuming my current strategy is definitely not going to cut it.


Yeah, in college procrastination worked just fine. I understood everything quick enough (plus it was all just math, which is naturally organized, as opposed to law courses/cases, which are a PITA to organize into outlines/briefs). But in law school if I just skim everything, I can't expect to come in the top half of the class, nevermind top 10%. I have to keep my computer on and brief and organize everything or I won't learn it right.

This weekend I set a timer that alternated between studying and taking breaks in set blocks. It worked pretty well, though I'm not sure how long the cool sounds effects on the timer will serve to keep me motivated.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby Ernert » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:00 am

BaiAilian2013 wrote:I keep all my books at school and don't have my computer out while I'm reading. That way, while I'm at school there's basically nothing I can do but just do the damn work, and leaving without having done the work is an affirmative admission that I'm not going to do it, rather than the slow slide of self-deception that makes up a lot of procrastinatory time. I'm a lot less likely to march out of school saying "yep, not doing my reading" than I am to fuck around on the computer for three hours with my casebook next to me and end up not having done the reading.


Quoted because I will have to convince myself to do this come next fall... super duper major procrastinator through college and trying to hype myself up to not treat LS (esp 1L) the same way.

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Re: To other procrastinators and lazy students

Postby thedive » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:26 am

Why not just can some briefs online? I do all the readings but sometimes just get some briefs online. Then I add/delete a few things and boom. This saves some time but I still try to do a "mental brief" while reading, so if my predicted issue/rule is way different I know I may have a problem. Then just go to class and add anything you think your prof thinks is important.




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