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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:19 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:I'm honestly bewildered as to what jobs anyone graduating from cooley tampa could possibly get except ones that are entirely dependent on nepotism. Tampa already only has like 60 legal jobs opening up a year for all 200 kids of stetson + UF/FSU and whoever else from any other school with contacts who wants one.


Bummer. I wouldn't mind Tampa or Orlando if I strike out on south Florida, although, given that I have actual connections there (see: public sector), if that happens I'll probably be running a bar in mexico at that point.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:22 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:Say what you want, but Cooley knows how to make $$$. I bet Florida International is SO PISSED!

FIU is an entirely different part of Florida, and neither school has a reach of more than 600 yards, so I doubt they're going to be stepping on each other's toes.


As if FIU and Cooley law grads can get a jerb in their respective law schools.

I'm honestly bewildered as to what jobs anyone graduating from cooley tampa could possibly get except ones that are entirely dependent on nepotism. Tampa already only has like 60 legal jobs opening up a year for all 200 kids of stetson + UF/FSU and whoever else from any other school with contacts who wants one.


Traffic tickets. Intern/work for a traffic ticket lawyer for a year and open up your own shop.

Very hard and unrealistic as possible, but it's the only way I see somebody making something decent out of it.

Other than that... FIU does have a pretty huge engineering college in comparison to the rest of the school (Social Science is the biggest dept.) - so for somebody who needs to become a patent lawyer or something of the sort midcareer as a rubberstamp, 30k isn't too shabby.

Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:22 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:I'm honestly bewildered as to what jobs anyone graduating from cooley tampa could possibly get except ones that are entirely dependent on nepotism. Tampa already only has like 60 legal jobs opening up a year for all 200 kids of stetson + UF/FSU and whoever else from any other school with contacts who wants one.


Bummer. I wouldn't mind Tampa or Orlando if I strike out on south Florida, although, given that I have actual connections there (see: public sector), if that happens I'll probably be running a bar in mexico at that point.

tbf you fit into one of the aforementioned categories, so let's not go signing any leases in spanish yet.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:24 am

ResolutePear wrote:Traffic tickets. Intern/work for a traffic ticket lawyer for a year and open up your own shop.

Very hard and unrealistic as possible, but it's the only way I see somebody making something decent out of it.

Other than that... FIU does have a pretty huge engineering college in comparison to the rest of the school (Social Science is the biggest dept.) - so for somebody who needs to become a patent lawyer or something of the sort midcareer as a rubberstamp, 30k isn't too shabby.

Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.

Ha, I was referring to Cooley. FIU, while not exactly legit, is still several tiers of respectability above half the schools in Florida.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:25 am

AffordablePrep wrote:in response to FIU caring even if they were in the same part of florida.

I just don't understand what you are saying at all.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:26 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:I'm honestly bewildered as to what jobs anyone graduating from cooley tampa could possibly get except ones that are entirely dependent on nepotism. Tampa already only has like 60 legal jobs opening up a year for all 200 kids of stetson + UF/FSU and whoever else from any other school with contacts who wants one.


Bummer. I wouldn't mind Tampa or Orlando if I strike out on south Florida, although, given that I have actual connections there (see: public sector), if that happens I'll probably be running a bar in mexico at that point.

tbf you fit into one of the aforementioned categories, so let's not go signing any leases in spanish yet.


From what I heard, some Miami firms prefer to hire locally (read: small law) for whatever reasons - mostly being that you need to be Hispanic or Haitian. I talked with a Vandy grad about this who now works in DC - apparently Miami is a hard spot for outsiders to break into.

Obviously, this won't bar T-14's, UF, and FSU grads. So, tough luck there FIU.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:27 am

ResolutePear wrote:
Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.


Didn't realize you were a fellow FIUer, here I thought I was the lone soldier from that wasteland inhabiting tls

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby buckilaw » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:28 am

This is so ridiculous that words escape me. Any class of 14 guys interested in starting a law school if we don't get jobs? It appears that if we can put fog on a piece of glass we meet the standard to run a law school.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:29 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.


Didn't realize you were a fellow FIUer, here I thought I was the lone soldier from that wasteland inhabiting tls

gdane would like a word with you...

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:29 am

buckilaw wrote:This is so ridiculous that words escape me. Any class of 14 guys interested in starting a law school if we don't get jobs? It appears that if we can put fog on a piece of glass we meet the standard to run a law school.


I actually think that might be more than necessary

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:30 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.


Didn't realize you were a fellow FIUer, here I thought I was the lone soldier from that wasteland inhabiting tls

gdane would like a word with you...


wtf is going on here my world is collapsing

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:30 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:Traffic tickets. Intern/work for a traffic ticket lawyer for a year and open up your own shop.

Very hard and unrealistic as possible, but it's the only way I see somebody making something decent out of it.

Other than that... FIU does have a pretty huge engineering college in comparison to the rest of the school (Social Science is the biggest dept.) - so for somebody who needs to become a patent lawyer or something of the sort midcareer as a rubberstamp, 30k isn't too shabby.

Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.

Ha, I was referring to Cooley. FIU, while not exactly legit, is still several tiers of respectability above half the schools in Florida.


I don't think they make any claims of grandeur outside of "HEY LOOK, OUR GRADS HAVE A SUPER HIGH BAR PASSAGE RATE!!," so I don't hate on them too much. Personally, I think their construction of a law school had to do more closely with the fact that they also wanted a med school(which they got shortly after, IIRC) - or something along those lines as I was able to deduce from some staff who have been there forever. Of course, I take it with a grain of salt - but I am pretty proud that they're like a Walmart of city universities. :lol:

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Sandro » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:34 am

This is a joke.


Is it socially/professionally acceptable to complain about this ?

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:34 am

Sandro wrote:This is a joke.


Is it socially/professionally acceptable to complain about this ?


Welcome back to the dregs big guy

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:35 am

Sandro wrote:This is a joke.


Is it socially/professionally acceptable to complain about this ?


Yes. Let the AMA accredit a couple schools in a year and the profession will practically throw them out into the streets.

Lawyers just have no balls - the ABA ripped them out as required for entering a state bar.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:38 am

ResolutePear wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:Traffic tickets. Intern/work for a traffic ticket lawyer for a year and open up your own shop.

Very hard and unrealistic as possible, but it's the only way I see somebody making something decent out of it.

Other than that... FIU does have a pretty huge engineering college in comparison to the rest of the school (Social Science is the biggest dept.) - so for somebody who needs to become a patent lawyer or something of the sort midcareer as a rubberstamp, 30k isn't too shabby.

Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.

Ha, I was referring to Cooley. FIU, while not exactly legit, is still several tiers of respectability above half the schools in Florida.


I don't think they make any claims of grandeur outside of "HEY LOOK, OUR GRADS HAVE A SUPER HIGH BAR PASSAGE RATE!!," so I don't hate on them too much. Personally, I think their construction of a law school had to do more closely with the fact that they also wanted a med school(which they got shortly after, IIRC) - or something along those lines as I was able to deduce from some staff who have been there forever. Of course, I take it with a grain of salt - but I am pretty proud that they're like a Walmart of city universities. :lol:

Yeah, I mean between the price and the fact that they are the 2nd best school in the only "major" market in Florida, I think it would be fair to call them the worst school in Florida that doesn't deserve to be shut down.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:40 am

Yup. Keep em alive along with the four above it and that should satisfy the needs of the state plenty.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:41 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:Traffic tickets. Intern/work for a traffic ticket lawyer for a year and open up your own shop.

Very hard and unrealistic as possible, but it's the only way I see somebody making something decent out of it.

Other than that... FIU does have a pretty huge engineering college in comparison to the rest of the school (Social Science is the biggest dept.) - so for somebody who needs to become a patent lawyer or something of the sort midcareer as a rubberstamp, 30k isn't too shabby.

Personally, I think that's why the school exists - midcareer. Hell, some of our academics are going there because it's so cheap.

Ha, I was referring to Cooley. FIU, while not exactly legit, is still several tiers of respectability above half the schools in Florida.


I don't think they make any claims of grandeur outside of "HEY LOOK, OUR GRADS HAVE A SUPER HIGH BAR PASSAGE RATE!!," so I don't hate on them too much. Personally, I think their construction of a law school had to do more closely with the fact that they also wanted a med school(which they got shortly after, IIRC) - or something along those lines as I was able to deduce from some staff who have been there forever. Of course, I take it with a grain of salt - but I am pretty proud that they're like a Walmart of city universities. :lol:

Yeah, I mean between the price and the fact that they are the 2nd best school in the only "major" market in Florida, I think it would be fair to call them the worst school in Florida that doesn't deserve to be shut down.


I can agree with this. Their library is actually piggybacked with another county-owned library to meet the ABA requirement - that is really the only thing I can really hate on them for as a UG-student that's not a prospect for their law school.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Sandro » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:44 am

Alright, i'm actually a lot more upset at this after I read they will be churning out grads just one year behind me in 2015 in a market I will be applying to.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:45 am

Sandro wrote:Alright, i'm actually a lot more upset at this after I read they will be churning out grads just one year behind me in 2015 in a market I will be applying to.


I wouldn't worry about it if you're going to a respectable school - moreso if you're going to a T-14.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby Sandro » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:50 am

ResolutePear wrote:
Sandro wrote:Alright, i'm actually a lot more upset at this after I read they will be churning out grads just one year behind me in 2015 in a market I will be applying to.


I wouldn't worry about it if you're going to a respectable school - moreso if you're going to a T-14.


is UGA respectable ? lol 8) :oops:

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby NotMyRealName09 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:52 am

ResolutePear wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:Say what you want, but Cooley knows how to make $$$. I bet Florida International is SO PISSED!


Why?

Both unranked(Well, FIU's now ranked 132. lulz), one costs 200k while the other costs 25k.

Hm, stiff competition right there.


Yeah, but they both attract minimally qualified individuals from across the country. Do you not understand supply and demand? You graduate undergrad, can barely pass the LSAT, and have been telling people you are going to lawschool, you might choose to go to Cooley Tampa versus FIU. Is that really unimaginable?


I guess I don't understand supply and demand.

Both schools have about equal credentials(unranked), but Cooley is a private institution(6-figure debt) vs. FIU which is a public institution(~30k, realistically. Minus any non-stipulated scholarships, of course.) This is a very tough position for a student accepted to both schools to decide on.


FIU has a projected yearly cost of attendance of $53,000 for out of state students.

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Cooley projected yearly cost of attendance is currently around $49,000.
http://www.cooley.edu/overview/factsataglance.htm

In-state students do save significant money at FIU.
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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:53 am

Sandro wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Sandro wrote:Alright, i'm actually a lot more upset at this after I read they will be churning out grads just one year behind me in 2015 in a market I will be applying to.


I wouldn't worry about it if you're going to a respectable school - moreso if you're going to a T-14.


is UGA respectable ? lol 8) :oops:


It's no Yale, if that's what you're asking. :mrgreen:

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:58 am

NotMyRealName09 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Why?

Both unranked(Well, FIU's now ranked 132. lulz), one costs 200k while the other costs 25k.

Hm, stiff competition right there.


Yeah, but they both attract minimally qualified individuals from across the country. Do you not understand supply and demand? You graduate undergrad, can barely pass the LSAT, and have been telling people you are going to lawschool, you might choose to go to Cooley Tampa versus FIU. Is that really unimaginable?


I guess I don't understand supply and demand.

Both schools have about equal credentials(unranked), but Cooley is a private institution(6-figure debt) vs. FIU which is a public institution(~30k, realistically. Minus any non-stipulated scholarships, of course.) This is a very tough position for a student accepted to both schools to decide on.


FIU has a projected yearly cost of attendance of $53,000 for out of state students.

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Cooley projected yearly cost of attendance is currently around $49,000.
http://www.cooley.edu/overview/factsataglance.htm

In-state students do save significant money.


I'm just looking at tuition, as both schools would have about the same CoL.

Cooley is 34k vs FIU's 28k OOS.

Instate, Cooley's 34k while FIU is 15k.

Don't know about Cooley, but FIU has some pretty attractive scholarships to lower that cost even further.

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Re: Wow, Cooley has a sense of humor

Postby random5483 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:10 am

lol. What else is there to say?




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