Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby geekster » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:03 am

I just saw statitics which say that US college students are vigins after they finish the college. Not all of them, but almost 30%. That's a very high amount! I think that we all had the prejudice that most college LS students use these --LinkRemoved-- lines on eachother all the time and get dates that way :D

Or, it was just me. Anyway, I now have the impression that no college kids are getting dates anymore :( ...what a mind shift . I do not have such a wish to go to a US college anymore. I am now completely discouraged!

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby czelede » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:26 am

The people I know in LS right now seem to hook up with their classmates all. the freaking. time. It's kind of like a giant incestuous bubble.

Oh, and super late but: the museums in Chicago *can* be free if you are a resident of the city of Chicago - you can check out passes from the city library (I think 2-4 at a time depending on the museum). Dating in big cities can be expensive if all you do is the nice steakhouse and a show route, but there are a lot of creative ways to circumvent it if you don't have the money (just requires a little extra brainpower/work).

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby rayiner » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:05 am

glewz wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:I love how all of these threads are started by boys. In general, I've found that women in law school are on the whole pretty attractive and also have at least decent social skills. The men...not so much. Generally pretty short, nerdy, not very athletic, fairly arrogant, and sometimes painfully awkward. There are obviously exceptions, but it seems like the guys should be more worried about whether a law school girl would want to date them rather than the other way around.


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glewz wrote:mmmm, I can find ways in which it relates.


But you have yet to explain them.

Ok. The article claims that men are more successful in marketing their school prestige & intellect than women; in fact, the brand of intelligence tends to hurt women's dating prospects. WT is saying that guys should be worried about whether a LS girl would want to date them, whereas if we take the opinion of the article, LS guys would inherently heighten their dating outlooks. This certainly isn't a direct reply to dating within the law school, but instead suggests that LS men have it better outside of LS.

The burden of worry therefore would be placed on women, whose LS & intellect stamp detracts from their dating in general.


Yes, the single factor of "going to law school" favors men over women. There is an arguable bump for men for "dropping the h-bomb" and an arguable strike against women for doing so. If all else were equal, things would favor men. But that's not the only factor. Law school in general is full or nerdy unathletic people. That hurts guys in the dating game more than it hurts girls. Nobody cares if a girl is clumsy or bad at sports or on the shy side. People do care when guys are that way.

Empirically, aside from a few fratty guys I know, law school guys have worse luck in outside dating than law school girls.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby pleasetryagain » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:44 pm

rayiner wrote:
Empirically, aside from a few fratty guys I know, law school guys have worse luck in outside dating than law school girls.


I can attest.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:50 pm

rayiner wrote:
glewz wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:I love how all of these threads are started by boys. In general, I've found that women in law school are on the whole pretty attractive and also have at least decent social skills. The men...not so much. Generally pretty short, nerdy, not very athletic, fairly arrogant, and sometimes painfully awkward. There are obviously exceptions, but it seems like the guys should be more worried about whether a law school girl would want to date them rather than the other way around.


dresden doll wrote:
glewz wrote:mmmm, I can find ways in which it relates.


But you have yet to explain them.

Ok. The article claims that men are more successful in marketing their school prestige & intellect than women; in fact, the brand of intelligence tends to hurt women's dating prospects. WT is saying that guys should be worried about whether a LS girl would want to date them, whereas if we take the opinion of the article, LS guys would inherently heighten their dating outlooks. This certainly isn't a direct reply to dating within the law school, but instead suggests that LS men have it better outside of LS.

The burden of worry therefore would be placed on women, whose LS & intellect stamp detracts from their dating in general.


Yes, the single factor of "going to law school" favors men over women. There is an arguable bump for men for "dropping the h-bomb" and an arguable strike against women for doing so. If all else were equal, things would favor men. But that's not the only factor. Law school in general is full or nerdy unathletic people. That hurts guys in the dating game more than it hurts girls. Nobody cares if a girl is clumsy or bad at sports or on the shy side. People do care when guys are that way.

Empirically, aside from a few fratty guys I know, law school guys have worse luck in outside dating than law school girls.


Yeah but it doesn't really hurt the individual man in law school. Those guys would have had even worse prospects otherwise. In the oddly worded title it would seem like the op was concerned about the individuals in law school compared to the same individuals in undergrad rather than law students as a group and undergrads as a group.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby pleasetryagain » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:01 pm

geekster wrote:I just saw statitics which say that US college students are vigins after they finish the college. Not all of them, but almost 30%. That's a very high amount! I think that we all had the prejudice that most college LS students use these --LinkRemoved-- lines on eachother all the time and get dates that way :D

Or, it was just me. Anyway, I now have the impression that no college kids are getting dates anymore :( ...what a mind shift . I do not have such a wish to go to a US college anymore. I am now completely discouraged!


Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby bk1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:07 pm

pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby pleasetryagain » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:11 pm

bk1 wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.


I was going to try...but I just can't argue with this.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:11 pm

College is probably the easiest place to get laid. The problem is with the lack of dating, below average guys really suffer. And guys who are chicken just don't get anything.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby bk1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:12 pm

Desert Fox wrote:And guys who are chicken just don't get anything.


I think this is the crux of it.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:13 pm

pleasetryagain wrote:
geekster wrote:I just saw statitics which say that US college students are vigins after they finish the college. Not all of them, but almost 30%. That's a very high amount! I think that we all had the prejudice that most college LS students use these --LinkRemoved-- lines on eachother all the time and get dates that way :D

Or, it was just me. Anyway, I now have the impression that no college kids are getting dates anymore :( ...what a mind shift . I do not have such a wish to go to a US college anymore. I am now completely discouraged!


Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This is retarded.

Guys are that bad with women usually are just shy. Others are socially awkward by nature. Either by lack of practice, or just their traits.

All that time on WoW is making up for their lack of life, not causing it.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby Thirteen » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:19 pm

bk1 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:And guys who are chicken just don't get anything.


I think this is the crux of it.


Can't steal second with your foot on first.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby pleasetryagain » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
This is retarded.

Guys are that bad with women usually are just shy. Others are socially awkward by nature. Either by lack of practice, or just their traits.

All that time on WoW is making up for their lack of life, not causing it.


Bolded is the point of my post and I don't think its retarded. As a former exceptionally shy guy I can say that maybe, just maybe, if they got the fuck off WoW for 3 hours and went to a bar/joined a club/had some fun they'd get over their shyness and see results much quicker.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby splitmuch » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:20 pm

worldtraveler wrote:I love how all of these threads are started by boys. In general, I've found that women in law school are on the whole pretty attractive and also have at least decent social skills. The men...not so much. Generally pretty short, nerdy, not very athletic, fairly arrogant, and sometimes painfully awkward. There are obviously exceptions, but it seems like the guys should be more worried about whether a law school girl would want to date them rather than the other way around.


This makes sense to me as a general summary of law school. What I don't get is why AFAIK and others seemed to say that, despite the fact that I do pretty well for myself currently, when I get to law school I will be SOL. Not to hop back on the nurses thing, but If I can currently successfully compete against doctors in a major metropolitan area...then what is it about going to law school, or specifically law school in chicago, that will affect my individual results?

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby Thirteen » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:24 pm

pleasetryagain wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
This is retarded.

Guys are that bad with women usually are just shy. Others are socially awkward by nature. Either by lack of practice, or just their traits.

All that time on WoW is making up for their lack of life, not causing it.


Bolded is the point of my post and I don't think its retarded. As a former exceptionally shy guy I can say that maybe, just maybe, if they got the fuck off WoW for 3 hours and went to a bar/joined a club/had some fun they'd get over their shyness and see results much quicker.


It takes years to get over shyness, and social awkwardness often still remains. I was afraid to talk to girls in high school, and didn't even kiss a girl until college. It probably took me until my junior year to get over my shyness with members of the opposite sex, and I'm still awkward around girls (I'm 28). Being a guy is harder than it looks, and ray nailed the reasons a few posts ago.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby paratactical » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:42 pm

bk1 wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.

This sounds like me and I still get laid.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby pleasetryagain » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:48 pm

paratactical wrote:
bk1 wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.

This sounds like me and I still get laid.


well..c'mon..paratactical =/= ordinary college guy

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby bk1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:43 pm

paratactical wrote:
bk1 wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.

This sounds like me and I still get laid.

You at least have boobs and an appreciation for good beer to help you out. They only have one of those.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby paratactical » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:57 pm

bk1 wrote:
paratactical wrote:
bk1 wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:Probably because they spend too much time on facebook and xbox (or other forums, uhrmm urhmm), have no social skills as a result, are undereducated/less articulate, are on medications that dull their senses, and watch too much porn which reduces the appeal of the one-girl tradition (I actually read a study on this and this seems to be a major factor).


This describes a substantial portion of the male population and yet they still get laid.

This sounds like me and I still get laid.

You at least have boobs and an appreciation for good beer to help you out. They only have one of those.

I'm not sure if you're ragging on their moobs or their shitty taste in beer.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby bilbobaggins » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:40 pm

rayiner wrote:
glewz wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:I love how all of these threads are started by boys. In general, I've found that women in law school are on the whole pretty attractive and also have at least decent social skills. The men...not so much. Generally pretty short, nerdy, not very athletic, fairly arrogant, and sometimes painfully awkward. There are obviously exceptions, but it seems like the guys should be more worried about whether a law school girl would want to date them rather than the other way around.


dresden doll wrote:
glewz wrote:mmmm, I can find ways in which it relates.


But you have yet to explain them.

Ok. The article claims that men are more successful in marketing their school prestige & intellect than women; in fact, the brand of intelligence tends to hurt women's dating prospects. WT is saying that guys should be worried about whether a LS girl would want to date them, whereas if we take the opinion of the article, LS guys would inherently heighten their dating outlooks. This certainly isn't a direct reply to dating within the law school, but instead suggests that LS men have it better outside of LS.

The burden of worry therefore would be placed on women, whose LS & intellect stamp detracts from their dating in general.


Yes, the single factor of "going to law school" favors men over women. There is an arguable bump for men for "dropping the h-bomb" and an arguable strike against women for doing so. If all else were equal, things would favor men. But that's not the only factor. Law school in general is full or nerdy unathletic people. That hurts guys in the dating game more than it hurts girls. Nobody cares if a girl is clumsy or bad at sports or on the shy side. People do care when guys are that way.

Empirically, aside from a few fratty guys I know, law school guys have worse luck in outside dating than law school girls.


Pretty sure women don't care if men are bad at sports. Both genders like people in shape. This doesn't have much to do with the ability to play baseball.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby Holly Golightly » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:46 pm

bilbobaggins wrote:Pretty sure women don't care if men are bad at sports. Both genders like people in shape. This doesn't have much to do with the ability to play baseball.

Mmmm, baseball players.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby bjsesq » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:26 pm

Holly Golightly wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:Pretty sure women don't care if men are bad at sports. Both genders like people in shape. This doesn't have much to do with the ability to play baseball.

Mmmm, baseball players the entire 2005 White Sox except for Tadahito Iguchi. Fantastic lovers.


FTFY

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby heyyitskatie » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:33 pm

There seems to be a healthy amount of dating at Boalt...some intra-law school dating, but lots of people come in with serious relationships, the relatively few available guys interested in dating have (at least in my opinion) a lot of smart, interesting women who take good care of themselves to choose from, and us women have a decently easy time because the Bay Area's tech and finance industries mean there's a good number of men who generally have their shit together.

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby stratocophic » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:30 pm

Thirteen wrote:
bk1 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:And guys who are chicken just don't get anything.


I think this is the crux of it.


Can't steal second with your foot on first.
lulz, the problem for them is more along the lines of the old adage "you can't steal first base"

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Re: Do LS students date as much as one did in undergrad??

Postby Horchata » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:46 pm

Ikki wrote:How about trying to get some UG sluts? Those the whole "Ima be a lawyer" thing work?


I take credit for your strategy on this matter. 8)




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