I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

(Study Tips, Dealing With Stress, Maintaining a Social Life, Financial Aid, Internships, Bar Exam, Careers in Law . . . )
User avatar
danquayle
Posts: 1108
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:12 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby danquayle » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:30 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Magnificent wrote:LOL @ anyone working on an outline 2nd semester.

After seeing what a waste of time it was first semester and I don't understand why people (like sheep) keep doing the same useless routine.

People waste so much time making outlines. There is a simple solution here that most are ignorant to. Just get a decent outline from an upperclassman who took the course and take practice exams. Everything else including hornbooks and commercial outlines are unnecessary.


Different things work for different people. I for one am never making an outline again. But for others, that shit works.


Bingo. I know some people who outlined and made daily briefs. I know people who did nothing all semester and just crammed. I personally never outlined, but, depending on the class, I studied almost exclusively from old outlines and commercial outlines. We all did well.

DF is right, you just need to find what personally works for you. The only wrong "way" is pretending there is a "right" way. Depends on the person. Hell, I think it even depends on the class/professor.

User avatar
danquayle
Posts: 1108
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:12 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby danquayle » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:31 pm

mths wrote:
Magnificent wrote:LOL @ anyone working on an outline 2nd semester.

After seeing what a waste of time it was first semester and I don't understand why people (like sheep) keep doing the same useless routine.

People waste so much time making outlines. There is a simple solution here that most are ignorant to. Just get a decent outline from an upperclassman who took the course and take practice exams. Everything else including hornbooks and commercial outlines are unnecessary.

seriously

if law school teaches you ANYTHING it's that there is only one answer to every problem


Yeah, the one answer is always "it depends."

User avatar
Moxie
Posts: 665
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:27 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Moxie » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:57 pm

pasteurizedmilk wrote:I always make my own outlines. Very useful for learning the material and figuring out how to apply it, though I basically don't use them at all on the actual exam.

I'll keep doing so until I graduate.


+1. Worked for me first semester, so I'm going to stick with it this semester too.

And damn, where can you sell outlines? To classmates? (Isn't that a little greedy?)

User avatar
Always Credited
Posts: 2509
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:31 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Always Credited » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:12 pm

I clicked that site, and one of the advertisements at the bottom read (and I kid you not):

Thomas Jefferson Law
Earn an Accredited Master of Laws at
Thomas Jefferson Law School.

User avatar
mths
Posts: 1098
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:24 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby mths » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:22 pm

shepdawg wrote:I've made over $600 just by selling my first semester 1L outlines, so it's definitely worth while. I got to cranking them out early this semester, and I raised the price. The great thing about law school is that there are a bunch of people who don't give a damn about dropping some of Daddy's hard earned coin to save themselves a little trouble.

I am expecting that the sales of my documents will be even more next year, because they will be available before finals prep time comes around.

aaaaaaaaaand you're the worst

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby 09042014 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:28 pm

mths wrote:
shepdawg wrote:I've made over $600 just by selling my first semester 1L outlines, so it's definitely worth while. I got to cranking them out early this semester, and I raised the price. The great thing about law school is that there are a bunch of people who don't give a damn about dropping some of Daddy's hard earned coin to save themselves a little trouble.

I am expecting that the sales of my documents will be even more next year, because they will be available before finals prep time comes around.

aaaaaaaaaand you're the worst


If MTHS is saying this, it's particularly bad. She's a sociopath.

User avatar
mths
Posts: 1098
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:24 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby mths » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:30 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
mths wrote:
shepdawg wrote:I've made over $600 just by selling my first semester 1L outlines, so it's definitely worth while. I got to cranking them out early this semester, and I raised the price. The great thing about law school is that there are a bunch of people who don't give a damn about dropping some of Daddy's hard earned coin to save themselves a little trouble.

I am expecting that the sales of my documents will be even more next year, because they will be available before finals prep time comes around.

aaaaaaaaaand you're the worst


If MTHS is saying this, it's particularly bad. She's a sociopath.

Calling flame. DF can't spell this well. Also, a comma?? Come on, at least make it less obvious.

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby 09042014 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:31 pm

mths wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
mths wrote:
shepdawg wrote:I've made over $600 just by selling my first semester 1L outlines, so it's definitely worth while. I got to cranking them out early this semester, and I raised the price. The great thing about law school is that there are a bunch of people who don't give a damn about dropping some of Daddy's hard earned coin to save themselves a little trouble.

I am expecting that the sales of my documents will be even more next year, because they will be available before finals prep time comes around.

aaaaaaaaaand you're the worst


If MTHS is saying this, it's particularly bad. She's a sociopath.

Calling flame. DF can't spell this well. Also, a comma?? Come on, at least make it less obvious.


Firefox fixed particularly. You sure that comma is right?

User avatar
mths
Posts: 1098
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:24 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby mths » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:34 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Firefox fixed particularly. You sure that comma is right?

It might be superfluous.

:lol:

User avatar
rayiner
Posts: 6184
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:43 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby rayiner » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:38 pm

Magnificent wrote:LOL @ anyone working on an outline 2nd semester.

After seeing what a waste of time it was first semester and I don't understand why people (like sheep) keep doing the same useless routine.

People waste so much time making outlines. There is a simple solution here that most are ignorant to. Just get a decent outline from an upperclassman who took the course and take practice exams. Everything else including hornbooks and commercial outlines are unnecessary.


I still make outlines and I'm a second-semester 2L. Been working just fine.

User avatar
Lieut Kaffee
Posts: 774
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:01 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:44 pm

Magnificent obviously started this thread to brag, but the guy who ended up making the biggest fool of himself is the guy slingin outlines at a TTT... awesome.

User avatar
kwais
Posts: 1683
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 12:28 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby kwais » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:44 pm

Lieut Kaffee wrote:Magnificent obviously started this thread to brag, but the guy who ended up making the biggest fool of himself is the guy slingin outlines at a TTT... awesome.


+1

User avatar
Kohinoor
Posts: 2756
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:51 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Kohinoor » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:44 pm

I can't believe that people are still going to law school.

Eco
Posts: 325
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:37 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Eco » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:44 am

It's not the outline itself that matters. On all exams all I used was a 10 page smaller outline that took me less then 5 hours to create.

But I still spent dozens of hours on each class outlining from the very beginning, 60-90 page documents per class, even though at the most I might use it for a few extra points on the exam.

It's because the process of outlining forces me to go over all the material. There's no way I'm going to remember that random case in mid-February that I read unless I outline, and in a commercial outline its just a case, you won't know what it's there for unless you go through the process and see how case law evolved.

User avatar
PDaddy
Posts: 2073
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 am

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby PDaddy » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:11 am

vamedic03 wrote:
Magnificent wrote:LOL @ anyone working on an outline 2nd semester.

After seeing what a waste of time it was first semester and I don't understand why people (like sheep) keep doing the same useless routine.

People waste so much time making outlines. There is a simple solution here that most are ignorant to. Just get a decent outline from an upperclassman who took the course and take practice exams. Everything else including hornbooks and commercial outlines are unnecessary.


As others have said, I find the value of outlines to be the process of creating it. While people should do whatever works best for themselves, you're absolutely wrong to call the process "a waste of time."

Two additional points:

(a) the majority of the top of the class still make outlines as 2Ls, and

(b) your approach relies on other people making outlines.


Good of you to call BS for the paradox (see bold above). Power move! I wondered if anyone else would notice the inherent contradiction. It's like saying that no one should make porn but you like to watch porn.

User avatar
Borhas
Posts: 4855
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:09 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Borhas » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:06 am

Veyron wrote:I don't even think that doing more than one or two practice exams per class has much value. Its much more important to read all of the model answers.


+1

really the only thing that you should do regardless of what "works for you"

Eco
Posts: 325
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:37 pm

Re: I can't believe that people are still making outlines...

Postby Eco » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:00 pm

I agree with that btw, but not for all classes. I feel like for those classes with massive issue spotters, it is better to read. My Crim law exam was like that, also had multiple choice, and I didn't do more than 1 or 2 practice exams, but I read through 15 of them + their answers and made notes.

But for Contracts, its a short-answer format, with limited time and a lot of short answers to fit in, I think that is when practicing really helped.




Return to “Forum for Law School Students”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: adub5, jerrycallo, LawHammer and 9 guests