2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

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2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby zeth006 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:21 pm

So. With 1L winding down, we're all looking at clubs, journals, and other stuff. What are your guys' plans?

I know some people who're trying out for Moot Court and looking at doing journal too.


Any advice by 2Ls and 3Ls are always credited.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby Younger Abstention » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:18 pm

The only credential that really matters is Law Review, or a secondary journal if you don't have LR. Otherwise, just do what you're interested in, or nothing at all.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:34 pm

Younger Abstention wrote:The only credential thing that really matters is bar review Law Review, or a secondary journal if you don't have LR. Otherwise, just do what you're interested in, or nothing at all.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:47 pm

Minimizing the amount of work you have to do while maximizing how good your resume looks.

It's a tough balance, but it can be achieved.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby zeth006 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:55 pm

pasteurizedmilk wrote:Minimizing the amount of work you have to do while maximizing how good your resume looks.

It's a tough balance, but it can be achieved.


I'd be interested in hearing your story. I'm looking at a secondary journal and possibly even trial law association. I'm told managing my schedule would be tough.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby savagedm » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:55 pm

anything you can possibly do where you can have a law related story helps... especially if it forces you to be in constant contact with attorneys.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:59 pm

zeth006 wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:Minimizing the amount of work you have to do while maximizing how good your resume looks.

It's a tough balance, but it can be achieved.


I'd be interested in hearing your story. I'm looking at a secondary journal and possibly even trial law association. I'm told managing my schedule would be tough.

Well, I failed. I'm doing an internship (advertised as 15 hours/week) that's closer to 30 hours a week. I'm on a journal, and that's actually a lot less work than advertised, so that's kinda evening things out.

Classes is where you can really cut corners. You should know how to prepare now, so it'll be easier and take less time.

As far as extracurrics - do a Journal. for sure. If you want to clerk, find a judicial internship. if you want to work for the guv't, try to find some kind of guv't internship in your desired field. that would be my advice at least. also if your school gives credit for interning it can end up being less work than a class....

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:00 am

zeth006 wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:Minimizing the amount of work you have to do while maximizing how good your resume looks.

It's a tough balance, but it can be achieved.


I'd be interested in hearing your story. I'm looking at a secondary journal and possibly even trial law association. I'm told managing my schedule would be tough.


y r u not interested in my story about bar review?

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:02 am

I'd skip clubs and that stuff. I don't think employers really care, IME. Unless it provides opportunities to meet practicing attorneys that you would otherwise not meet......I'd skip it.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:02 am

dood wrote:
zeth006 wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:Minimizing the amount of work you have to do while maximizing how good your resume looks.

It's a tough balance, but it can be achieved.


I'd be interested in hearing your story. I'm looking at a secondary journal and possibly even trial law association. I'm told managing my schedule would be tough.


y r u not interested in my story about bar review?

i am interested

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:12 am

pasteurizedmilk wrote:i am interested


nice, ty ty.

LS classes: minimum credits, maximize pass-fail classes
extra curriculars: NOTHING except 1 journal; no clubs - i mean ZERO, no federalist society, no human rights law club, none of that shit - especially no mock trial or moot court
journal: secondary with the best sounding title but i wont have to do ANY substantive work
GF: a chill one and we have a rule that we only have sleepovers Th-Sa when no class next morning

the one thing that takes up my time is gym and golf. going to get buff as fuk before SA so i can impress partners reping 225 NFL combine style (no joke, when i interviewed a bunch said they all work out at office before work). going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby Knock » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:13 am

dood wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:i am interested


nice, ty ty.

LS classes: minimum credits, maximize pass-fail classes
extra curriculars: NOTHING except 1 journal; no clubs - i mean ZERO, no federalist society, no human rights law club, none of that shit - especially no mock trial or moot court
journal: secondary with the best sounding title but i wont have to do ANY substantive work
GF: a chill one and we have a rule that we only have sleepovers Th-Sa when no class next morning

the one thing that takes up my time is gym and golf. going to get buff as fuk before SA so i can impress partners reping 225 NFL combine style (no joke, when i interviewed a bunch said they all work out at office before work). going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


Damn, I need to work on my golf game.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:14 am

Knock wrote:
Damn, I need to work on my golf game.


my last semester of UG i spent like $2000 on golf lessons. it paid dividends when i started work.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby Knock » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:14 am

dood wrote:
Knock wrote:
Damn, I need to work on my golf game.


my last semester of UG i spent like $2000 on golf lessons. it paid dividends when i started work.


You're a smart man. I need to get on that ASAP.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:19 am

Knock wrote:
dood wrote:
Knock wrote:
Damn, I need to work on my golf game.


my last semester of UG i spent like $2000 on golf lessons. it paid dividends when i started work.


You're a smart man. I need to get on that ASAP.


naw, ty very much, but not that smart. just got to work hard. i mean actually, im really stupid, but i maximize my potential by doing things that increase my oppurtunties for success.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby GATORTIM » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:21 am

dood wrote:going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


15+ handicap = deals getting done in the woods/lakes?

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:24 am

GATORTIM wrote:
dood wrote:going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


15+ handicap = deals getting done in the woods/lakes?


im confident 99% of the people who claim they know how to golf cant break 100 on any 1/2 decent course.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby GATORTIM » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:27 am

dood wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:
dood wrote:going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


15+ handicap = deals getting done in the woods/lakes?


im confident 99% of the people who claim they know how to golf cant break 100 on any 1/2 decent course.


Agreed.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dood » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:38 am

GATORTIM wrote:
dood wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:
dood wrote:going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


15+ handicap = deals getting done in the woods/lakes?


im confident 99% of the people who claim they know how to golf cant break 100 on any 1/2 decent course.


Agreed.


and yea 15 isnt great, i just want to be consistently around 10-15. plus its a huge improvement for me (i used to shoot like 120 no joke) - so im happy with it. problem is i learned all wrong from friends in HS...then played my shitty style for years. so it took a lot of lessons just to get the basics down (correctly).

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:05 am

dood wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:i am interested


nice, ty ty.

LS classes: minimum credits, maximize pass-fail classes
extra curriculars: NOTHING except 1 journal; no clubs - i mean ZERO, no federalist society, no human rights law club, none of that shit - especially no mock trial or moot court
journal: secondary with the best sounding title but i wont have to do ANY substantive work
GF: a chill one and we have a rule that we only have sleepovers Th-Sa when no class next morning

the one thing that takes up my time is gym and golf. going to get buff as fuk before SA so i can impress partners reping 225 NFL combine style (no joke, when i interviewed a bunch said they all work out at office before work). going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


oh hai me. minus golf. i still suck at golf.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby zeth006 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:59 am

dood wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:i am interested


nice, ty ty.

LS classes: minimum credits, maximize pass-fail classes
extra curriculars: NOTHING except 1 journal; no clubs - i mean ZERO, no federalist society, no human rights law club, none of that shit - especially no mock trial or moot court
journal: secondary with the best sounding title but i wont have to do ANY substantive work
GF: a chill one and we have a rule that we only have sleepovers Th-Sa when no class next morning

the one thing that takes up my time is gym and golf. going to get buff as fuk before SA so i can impress partners reping 225 NFL combine style (no joke, when i interviewed a bunch said they all work out at office before work). going to lower handi to about 10-15...i did high level sales before LS, i know where 100% of the deals get made.


Yes, I was interested in hearing your story too. Was out until just now.

Your advice sounds solid. I'm keeping my club activities down to a minimum because frankly, my hiring attorneys didn't seem to give a shit that I was "actively involved" in this club or that. He was more so interested in my writing sample and my own personal goals short-term and long-term. In other words, he cut to the chase. I'm planning to go to events if I wanna chill with buddies for a couple of hours and listen to some war stories from attorneys who've been there done that.

Journal is definitely where the money seems to be. It'll be a nice way to make sure my writing skills are at least at par by 2L summer, though that may depend on whether my summer employer decides to keep me on board...

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby dusk2k2 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:15 am

So the consensus is clubs and things like that are worthless. Obviously journal and grades are super important. And internships are good or not?

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby zeth006 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:46 am

dusk2k2 wrote:So the consensus is clubs and things like that are worthless. Obviously journal and grades are super important. And internships are good or not?


I'm a 1L, so take my $0.02 with a grain of salt.

Clubs are meh. If you can get away with minimum work while being a board member, great. Do it.

Externships look great on your resume. Everyone knows what an externship is. If your grades are good and if you apply early, you can land a gig with some some high level court justice. 9th Circuit comes to mind as one example. If not, a superior court always looks pretty good too.

I've also heard of people interning with the city attorney's office.

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby zeth006 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:53 am

All this aside...would participation on my school's trial team do me any good in terms of prepping me for litigation?

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Re: 2L Year: What activities are you doing or have been doing?

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:22 am

I would say my internship has been a very valuable experience. Clubs....pretty much a time sink.

I don't know about mock trial one way or the other. Never looked into it.




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