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NZA
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Re: Latin

Postby NZA » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:06 pm

maf70 wrote:
NZA wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:OKay we will start the first lesson.

Nomitive- a
Genitive- ae
Dative- ae
Accusative - am
Ablative- a

now memorize, come back tomorrow

Plural:

-ae
-arum
-is
-as
-is

Now decline "agricola, agricolae" 10,000 times and come back tomorrow.


It might be prudent to note that the lesson is, of course, for the first declension.

Indeed! And that all nouns of the first declension (save, of course, poeta, nauta, agricola, and insula, among a few others) are feminine with regards to their gender.

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Re: Latin

Postby beachbum » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:10 pm

As part of my 0L prep, I read over some famous cases and noticed that numbers were often used to reference past cases, dollar amounts, etc. As such, I will be enrolling in Advanced Calculus and Statistics courses over the summer to get a better appreciation for numbers. I can't wait.

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Re: Latin

Postby maf70 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:29 pm

NZA wrote:
maf70 wrote:
NZA wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:OKay we will start the first lesson.

Nomitive- a
Genitive- ae
Dative- ae
Accusative - am
Ablative- a

now memorize, come back tomorrow

Plural:

-ae
-arum
-is
-as
-is

Now decline "agricola, agricolae" 10,000 times and come back tomorrow.


It might be prudent to note that the lesson is, of course, for the first declension.

Indeed! And that all nouns of the first declension (save, of course, poeta, nauta, agricola, and insula, among a few others) are feminine with regards to their gender.


fail...such a rookie.

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Re: Latin

Postby Sam Seaborn » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:32 pm

This thread should die soon.

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Re: Latin

Postby OverDrama » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:33 pm

beachbum wrote:As part of my 0L prep, I read over some famous cases and noticed that numbers were often used to reference past cases, dollar amounts, etc. As such, I will be enrolling in Advanced Calculus and Statistics courses over the summer to get a better appreciation for numbers. I can't wait.



The importance of Roman Law ( and later Cannon Law) and hence Latin to the development of both Civil and Common Law CANNOT be so flippantly equated with the importance of numerals in organizing the material in judicial opinions. (At least by reasonable people.)

However, I think an understanding of Advanced Calculus or any other educational endeavor designed to facilitate mature numeracy could only be helpful in studying certain aspects of the Law, especially in approaching the work of the Law and Economics theorists.

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Re: Latin

Postby beachbum » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:40 pm

OverDrama wrote:
beachbum wrote:As part of my 0L prep, I read over some famous cases and noticed that numbers were often used to reference past cases, dollar amounts, etc. As such, I will be enrolling in Advanced Calculus and Statistics courses over the summer to get a better appreciation for numbers. I can't wait.



The importance of Roman Law ( and later Cannon Law) and hence Latin to the development of both Civil and Common Law CANNOT be so flippantly equated with the importance of numerals in organizing the material in judicial opinions. (At least by reasonable people.)

However, I think an understanding of Advanced Calculus or any other educational endeavor designed to facilitate mature numeracy could only be helpful in studying certain aspects of the Law, especially in approaching the work of the Law and Economics theorists.


You must be a hit at parties.

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Re: Latin

Postby NZA » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:40 pm

maf70 wrote:fail...such a rookie.

Incola, mea culpa. :roll:

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Re: Latin

Postby OverDrama » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:58 pm

Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/

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Re: Latin

Postby Knuckles » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:41 pm

OverDrama wrote:Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/


In the field of linguistics, we have a techincal term for opinions of this type:

Fucking wrong.

Latin is the worst, most round-about way of understanding English grammar; we are in a different language sub-family, and the grammatical foundations of Latin are vastly dissimilar to those of the Germanic ilk. As for enjoyable, I don't see it. I took four years of Latin and it wasn't exactly exhilirating, but I guess your mileage may vary.

And as for clear writing, people who abide by prescriptivist rules set forth by ancient instructors in Latin (don't split an infinitve ect) usually sound uptight and bore the shit out of their reader in record time. Good command of Latin does not lead to a command of English as it is spoken. Studying another language may teach you something about language generally, but so can cracking a book or reading wikipedia.

Additionally, the notion that grammar is the foundation of thinking is goofy. Come back and tell me you think that after doing even a cursory study of the world's languages.

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Re: Latin

Postby fatduck » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:43 pm

corp por

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Re: Latin

Postby TyrodTaylor » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:47 pm

TT delende est

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Re: Latin

Postby NZA » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:17 pm

Knuckles wrote:Additionally, the notion that grammar is the foundation of thinking is goofy. Come back and tell me you think that after doing even a cursory study of the world's languages.

Image

Wittgenstein disapproves. kinda.

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Re: Latin

Postby CMDantes » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:32 pm

Wow this thread sucks.

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Re: Latin

Postby BeenDidThat » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:46 pm

CMDantes wrote:Wow this thread sucks.


Wow sucks this thread.

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Re: Latin

Postby Stanford4Me » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:31 pm

BeenDidThat wrote:
CMDantes wrote:Wow this thread sucks.


Wow sucks this thread.

Wow thread sucks this.

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Re: Latin

Postby Stanford4Me » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:31 pm

BeenDidThat wrote:
CMDantes wrote:Wow this thread sucks.


Wow sucks this thread.

Wow thread sucks this.

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Re: Latin

Postby YourCaptain » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:49 pm

OverDrama wrote:Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/


What are you even talking about?

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Re: Latin

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:52 pm

YourCaptain wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/


What are you even talking about?


I know right? French is way better for understanding the English language. Get this damn foolishness out of here.

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Re: Latin

Postby geoduck » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:09 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
YourCaptain wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/


What are you even talking about?


I know right? French is way better for understanding the English language. Get this damn foolishness out of here.


Modern French is distinctly different than the Norman which influenced English development.

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Re: Latin

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:11 pm

geoduck wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
YourCaptain wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Also this:

"Latin is a key which opens the door to clear communication. In past ages, in the West, Latin was like the internet. People who did not speak each other’s languages, could meet and understand each other through Latin. Today. Latin is still the clearest – and also the most enjoyable – route to understanding your own grammar, in any language. And grammar is the basis not only of clear writing but clear thinking."

Ruth Padel, Friend of The Latin Programme – Via Facilis

http://www.thelatinprogramme.co.uk/


What are you even talking about?


I know right? French is way better for understanding the English language. Get this damn foolishness out of here.


Modern French is distinctly different than the Norman which influenced English development.


It is probably still closer than the Latin that influenced the Norman French that influenced English development though.

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Re: Latin

Postby aliarrow » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:11 pm

fatduck wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Is anyone else attempting to give themselves a crash course in Latin in the months before 1L in order to lay the foundation for a more intuitive understanding of legal terms, jargon and principles, and of course to better appreciate great legal oratory such as the speeches of Cicero?


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lmao I guess I'm the only one to get this one.

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Re: Latin

Postby geoduck » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:13 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
geoduck wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
YourCaptain wrote:
What are you even talking about?


I know right? French is way better for understanding the English language. Get this damn foolishness out of here.


Modern French is distinctly different than the Norman which influenced English development.


It is probably still closer than the Latin that influenced the Norman French that influenced English development though.


Probably, though study in Germanic language will teach you far more about our grammar than French, which has more of an influence on our vocabulary than our grammar.

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Re: Latin

Postby fatduck » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 pm

aliarrow wrote:
fatduck wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Is anyone else attempting to give themselves a crash course in Latin in the months before 1L in order to lay the foundation for a more intuitive understanding of legal terms, jargon and principles, and of course to better appreciate great legal oratory such as the speeches of Cicero?


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lmao I guess I'm the only one to get this one.

finally! :D

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Re: Latin

Postby geoduck » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:16 pm

fatduck wrote:
aliarrow wrote:
fatduck wrote:
OverDrama wrote:Is anyone else attempting to give themselves a crash course in Latin in the months before 1L in order to lay the foundation for a more intuitive understanding of legal terms, jargon and principles, and of course to better appreciate great legal oratory such as the speeches of Cicero?


Lorem ipsum dolor


lmao I guess I'm the only one to get this one.

finally! :D


Wait... there were people who didn't get it? I just took it for granted having done layout work.

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Re: Latin

Postby Stanford4Me » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:20 pm

geoduck wrote:
fatduck wrote:
aliarrow wrote:
fatduck wrote:Lorem ipsum dolor


lmao I guess I'm the only one to get this one.

finally! :D


Wait... there were people who didn't get it? I just took it for granted having done layout work.

I get it now that I actually looked at it. I overlooked it before.




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