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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby zeth006 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:44 pm

ResolutePear wrote:See, I still think the Mac-is-easier term is a cop-out for most people studying something where they will have to eventually do productivity tasks and more. What happens if your corporation hands you a PC instead of a macbook for work? Although macbooks have a higher market share today, it's still dwarfed by PC's - something that nowadays employers want experience in.

Not to mention: Brick and Mortar support does nothing for you if the nearest mac store happens to be 100 miles away.


Agreed. I recommend Macs for most as I find that the average joe/jane seems to find OSX easier to use long-term. For now, I think most people who've grown up on Windows machines should have no problems navigating their work machines.

But I don't think I'll ever understand that even after a month spent with a Mac. I like the Macbook's touchpad and battery life, but all that's never enough for me to justify the premium.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby northwood » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:53 pm

how are toshibas? any good or bad. Ive heard that sony makes a decent cpu? Also im looking for a larger keyboard. is there any way to find out if a model has tiny keys right next to eachother, or larger ones wiht some spacing ( or does it even matter)

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby Dany » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:00 pm

The family I nanny for has a Toshiba and the keyboard is horrific. Really off-center and difficult to type on. It's the only one I've used, so I have no idea if it's just that model or if it's a Toshiba thing in general.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:12 pm

northwood wrote:how are toshibas? any good or bad. Ive heard that sony makes a decent cpu? Also im looking for a larger keyboard. is there any way to find out if a model has tiny keys right next to eachother, or larger ones wiht some spacing ( or does it even matter)


Some Toshiba's are pretty decent. Of course, I recommend a T-series Thinkpad if it's in your price range. Otherwise, go to Bestbuy, check out what you like and shop for that model online. Chances are amazon will have it for less.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby northwood » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:13 pm

have to stay around 800 or less.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:35 pm

northwood wrote:have to stay around 800 or less.


Toshiba's good, then. Acer and E-machines are also good, if you can get a good value. I got an E-machine for under 300 bucks shipped about a year ago. Still works fine - no issues and full keyboard.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby Stoic » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:48 pm

ResolutePear wrote:
northwood wrote:how are toshibas? any good or bad. Ive heard that sony makes a decent cpu? Also im looking for a larger keyboard. is there any way to find out if a model has tiny keys right next to eachother, or larger ones wiht some spacing ( or does it even matter)


Some Toshiba's are pretty decent. Of course, I recommend a T-series Thinkpad if it's in your price range. Otherwise, go to Bestbuy, check out what you like and shop for that model online. Chances are amazon will have it for less.

How heavy is a T series laptop. I'm down to that or the E420 and I'll be making the purchase today on lenovo.com. I was set on the E420 because of the price, etc. But if the T420 is worth it.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby ResolutePear » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:10 pm

Stoic wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
northwood wrote:how are toshibas? any good or bad. Ive heard that sony makes a decent cpu? Also im looking for a larger keyboard. is there any way to find out if a model has tiny keys right next to eachother, or larger ones wiht some spacing ( or does it even matter)


Some Toshiba's are pretty decent. Of course, I recommend a T-series Thinkpad if it's in your price range. Otherwise, go to Bestbuy, check out what you like and shop for that model online. Chances are amazon will have it for less.

How heavy is a T series laptop. I'm down to that or the E420 and I'll be making the purchase today on lenovo.com. I was set on the E420 because of the price, etc. But if the T420 is worth it.


The edge, although a good buy, is nowhere as rugged as the T420. If I had to wager, the T420 would last you upto the moment you have to upgrade just because it is as rugged as you'll get without getting into Toughbooks. As an example of this: look at the metal hinges for the screen and the spill-proof keyboard - not to mention it meets certain mil-specs. The reliability and ruggedness is why I always recommend them for school when there is a laptop-mandatory final.

Having said that.. it weighs more, not much to make a difference if you're going to be hauling around casebooks.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby bigjinjapan » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:15 pm

FYI: For people looking to buy a Lenovo, they have a pretty sweet outlet store with some rock-bottom prices. Some are refurbs (which I would personally buy) but some are new or returned BTOs. Definitely worth checking out, though the stock obviously varies quite a bit from day-to-day.

http://outlet.lenovo.com/

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby deepspacenine » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:57 pm

Anyone have a suggestion for a KVM style solution for a desktop rig and a MacBook Air to share a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Most likely the monitor will be dual input DVI/HDMI/mini-DP so the video shouldn't be a problem since the monitor can handle that.

I'm trying to figure out a solution to the keyboard and mouse sharing though. Synergy is a potential option but I assume that would cause problems with gaming on the desktop. I'm also wary of KVMs as a lot of them have emulation or input lag problems (according to Newegg reviews). Any thoughts? Thanks!

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby toulon99 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:52 pm

Just bought a Thinkpad T420. Follow this (LinkRemoved) link to sign up then follow this (LinkRemoved) link to get the T420 starting at $527 but without windows 7. Sometimes a 10% coupon can be stacked, but there aren't any at the moment.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby CMDantes » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:30 pm

I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad v570 and am pretty happy with my purchase.

It cost me like 670.00 total, in-store pickup, and seems like a solid machine that will last through law school. I like how the screen looks and how the touchpad operates. I think the specs are awesome for the price. Similarly spec'd Samsung/Toshibas were a couple hundred more.

Edit: Link to a review, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387552,00.asp

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby trudat15 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:45 pm

ResolutePear wrote:
northwood wrote:have to stay around 800 or less.


Toshiba's good, then. Acer and E-machines are also good, if you can get a good value. I got an E-machine for under 300 bucks shipped about a year ago. Still works fine - no issues and full keyboard.



If you have to stay under 800 and want a T420, that can certainly be done.

Sign up for an account here:
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Then shop for t420i. If you configure a t420i (if you want the i5, you can upgrade to that - which would essentially make it the same thing as a t420), there is a coupon that saves an additional 10%, and you can get a really well configured machine for under 800.

FWIW all this info gleaned from looking for t420 deals on slickdeals

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby kehoema2 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:57 am

Hey really sorry if this has been discussed, I'm a little short on time and didn't read the whole thread, but how necessary is an optical drive strictly for law school? For undergrad I think I only used my optical drive for class once.

I've thought about getting a laptop without an optical drive and just getting an external optical drive, but I was just hoping for some input. Thanks.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby beach_terror » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:40 am

kehoema2 wrote:Hey really sorry if this has been discussed, I'm a little short on time and didn't read the whole thread, but how necessary is an optical drive strictly for law school? For undergrad I think I only used my optical drive for class once.

I've thought about getting a laptop without an optical drive and just getting an external optical drive, but I was just hoping for some input. Thanks.

Totally unnecessary.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby glewz » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:44 pm

http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0365663

ASUS K53SV-XR2
Intel® Core(tm) i7-2630QM
6GB DDR3 RAM
640GB 5,400RPM Hard Drive
15.6" HD LED-backlit Display
SuperMulti DVD±RW Drive
5-in-1 Media Card Reader
NVIDIA GeForce GT 540
10/100/1000 Network
802.11b/g/n Wireless
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

$799

A bit on the high end $-wise. Discuss? There's also a similar i-5 for $50 less.

Edit:
- I'll be using a 10 or 12 inch netbook for taking notes
- Have an upgrade to Windows 7 Professional
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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby merc280 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:47 pm

glewz wrote:http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365663

ASUS K53SV-XR2
Intel® Core(tm) i7-2630QM
6GB DDR3 RAM
640GB 5,400RPM Hard Drive
15.6" HD LED-backlit Display
SuperMulti DVD±RW Drive
5-in-1 Media Card Reader
NVIDIA GeForce GT 540
10/100/1000 Network
802.11b/g/n Wireless
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

$799

A bit on the high end $-wise. Discuss? There's also a similar i-5 for $50 less.


Might be a problem with the big screen.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby glewz » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:48 pm

merc280 wrote:
glewz wrote:http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365663

ASUS K53SV-XR2
Intel® Core(tm) i7-2630QM
6GB DDR3 RAM
640GB 5,400RPM Hard Drive
15.6" HD LED-backlit Display
SuperMulti DVD±RW Drive
5-in-1 Media Card Reader
NVIDIA GeForce GT 540
10/100/1000 Network
802.11b/g/n Wireless
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

$799

A bit on the high end $-wise. Discuss? There's also a similar i-5 for $50 less.


Might be a problem with the big screen.


Anything else? I actually prefer the 15.6 - will be using a 10 or 12 inch for note-taking.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby northwood » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:55 pm

orderded Toshiba Satellite L750 BT4N22with
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor 2.3 GHz, (2.90 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 3MB CacheMicrosoft® Operating SystemGenuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit, SP1Memory4GB DDR3 1333MHz SDRAM (2048MBx2) Hard Disk Drive500GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial ATA)Optical DriveDVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) driveDesign OptionsFusion® Finish in Matrix Silver with Standard Black keyboardWireless LAN & Bluetooth®Realtek® Wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)Microsoft® Office SoftwareMicrosoft® Office Home and Student 2010Anti-Virus SoftwareNorton Internet Security Suite (NIS) 2011 (30-day trial)Standard Limited Warranty1 Year Standard Limited Warranty

all for 700( got it at the online store)

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby merc280 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:57 pm

Seems like a good deal.

I'm going to be using a 10inch but I dont know how I'll feel typing on a tiny keyboard.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby adonai » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:15 am

I've narrowed down my search to two laptops, please choose for me:

Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E420 14" ($500)
i3 2.1ghz
4GB memory (8GB max)
320GB HD
Weight: 5.2 lbs.
Battery life: 4 hours

Pros:
-Optical Drive
-Everyone raves about the keyboard

Cons:
-Has the damned nipple in the middle of keyboard, which I heard can hamper the flow of writing at times (not good for typing exams?)
- Quite bulky
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Acer Aspire TimelineX 3820T 13" ($600)
i3 2.53ghz
4GB memory (8 GB max)
500GB HD
Weight: 4 lbs.
Battery life: 7-8 hours

Pros:
- Significantly thinner than the Lenovo
- Will be a commuter, so would like something ultra portable

Cons:
- No Optical Drive
- Acer brand not known for good quality
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There was a much cheaper Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 14 for $466 total and was planning to buy that, but the store removed the item for some reason. So now I'm down to the two. The prices fluctuate like crazy so I don't even know when a good time to buy is. Just last month, the laptops were almost $50 cheaper. Is battery life and weight/size worth the extra $100 for the acer?

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby glewz » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:16 am

merc280 wrote:Seems like a good deal.

I'm going to be using a 10inch but I dont know how I'll feel typing on a tiny keyboard.

If you haven't purchased a 10 inch yet, this is one you might want to consider:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-1015PX-MU17- ... 710&sr=8-2

Been watching it for some time now, and the price for blue & red colors just dropped ~30 dollars to $285.

Intel Atom N570 Dual Core Processor 1.66Ghz
1 GB DDR3 SODIMM memory, 1 slot, max 2 GB
250GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM); no optical drive
10.1-Inch Matte WSVGA LED Display; 802.11 b/g/n; 10/100 LAN; 3 USB 2.0 ports; 2-in-1 Card reader (SD/MMC)
48 W/h Battery, Up to 9 Hours of Battery Life; Windows 7 Starter Operating System
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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby glewz » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:38 am

adonai wrote:I've narrowed down my search to two laptops, please choose for me:

Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E420 14" ($500)
i3 2.1ghz
4GB memory (8GB max)
320GB HD
Weight: 5.2 lbs.
Battery life: 4 hours

Pros:
-Optical Drive
-Everyone raves about the keyboard

Cons:
-Has the damned nipple in the middle of keyboard, which I heard can hamper the flow of writing at times (not good for typing exams?)
- Quite bulky
-----------------------------------
Acer Aspire TimelineX 3820T 13" ($600)
i3 2.53ghz
4GB memory (8 GB max)
500GB HD
Weight: 4 lbs.
Battery life: 7-8 hours

Pros:
- Significantly thinner than the Lenovo
- Will be a commuter, so would like something ultra portable

Cons:
- No Optical Drive
- Acer brand not known for good quality
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There was a much cheaper Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 14 for $466 total and was planning to buy that, but the store removed the item for some reason. So now I'm down to the two. The prices fluctuate like crazy so I don't even know when a good time to buy is. Just last month, the laptops were almost $50 cheaper. Is battery life and weight/size worth the extra $100 for the acer?

Tough decision...the Acer laptop seems to be favored for commuters, given the battery life & weight. I'm a bit surprised that your difference in battery life is so pronounced, given that both use 6 cell batteries. The Lenovo has the newer, more efficient Sandy Bridge processor - i3 2XX0m versus the Acer's older i3 3XXm?

And are you sure that the Lenovo is just $500? I might be looking at the wrong page, but the following site indicates that it's $579
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/cont ... 3CE1BC569A


Note: If you go for the Lenovo, select "Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000" instead of the Thinkpad bgn.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby merc280 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:38 am

glewz wrote:
merc280 wrote:Seems like a good deal.

I'm going to be using a 10inch but I dont know how I'll feel typing on a tiny keyboard.

If you haven't purchased a 10 inch yet, this is one you might want to consider:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-1015PX-MU17- ... 710&sr=8-2

Been watching it for some time now, and the price for blue & red colors just dropped ~30 dollars to $285.

Intel Atom N570 Dual Core Processor 1.66Ghz
1 GB DDR3 SODIMM memory, 1 slot, max 2 GB
250GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM); no optical drive
10.1-Inch Matte WSVGA LED Display; 802.11 b/g/n; 10/100 LAN; 3 USB 2.0 ports; 2-in-1 Card reader (SD/MMC)
48 W/h Battery, Up to 9 Hours of Battery Life; Windows 7 Starter Operating System



Currently using a Dell mini 10 inch and it sucks to type on this for long periods of time. Not sure how I'll manage when school starts.

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Re: Computers for Law School 2011

Postby bdubs » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:04 am

Just ordered a Lenovo T420 CTO system using the education discount that you have to request through a customer service rep. The price was 10% cheaper than the best stackable coupons I could find online and definitely better than my school's purchase program with Lenovo. Highly recommended that people consider this option.

One thing worth noting is the lead time on my CTO is long, I have a projected ship date in early August.




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