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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
We have Fed Courts & Fed Jurisdiction as one class. I want to take it but heard that it is the largest gunner class you will ever see. *Gulp*
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I'm planning to take this class when I'm in law school, but I have heard many times that it is like a whole class stacked with the most ambitious gunners.
But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
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None. This creates the issue addressed by the OP.Adjudicator wrote:But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
Time to gun baby.
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Sometimes you just randomly get Law Reviewed though. The week before finals, you actually look around your 16 person Law and the Rights of Indigenous Birds seminar and there are 12 people from Law Review there.
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I'd imagine this tends to happen with classes that are not curved.Kohinoor wrote:Sometimes you just randomly get Law Reviewed though. The week before finals, you actually look around your 16 person Law and the Rights of Indigenous Birds seminar and there are 12 people from Law Review there.
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Randomly happened to me in my very not curved PR class.Adjudicator wrote:I'd imagine this tends to happen with classes that are not curved.Kohinoor wrote:Sometimes you just randomly get Law Reviewed though. The week before finals, you actually look around your 16 person Law and the Rights of Indigenous Birds seminar and there are 12 people from Law Review there.
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Does this work if you actually want a clerkship? Like, could just tell the judge that we are taking it "next year?"G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Actually, you could just wait to take fed courts until 3L year, after the first big wave of clerkship hiring is over. Then, you'd be a lot less worried about a grades-hit.flcath wrote:None. This creates the issue addressed by the OP.Adjudicator wrote:But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
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Great info, thanks.A'nold wrote:Believe it or not, many judges (most?) don't care. They probably want you to take fed courts at some point, but even then, some might not care. I mean, I landed a bunch of COA interviews and an offer without having taken fed courts. I eventually took the class, of course.G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Does this work if you actually want a clerkship? Like, could just tell the judge that we are taking it "next year?"flcath wrote:Actually, you could just wait to take fed courts until 3L year, after the first big wave of clerkship hiring is over. Then, you'd be a lot less worried about a grades-hit.Adjudicator wrote: None. This creates the issue addressed by the OP.
And when we looked at people's apps last summer (hiring for my judge for 2011-12), we were impressed by a great grade in fed courts, but I can't recall ever remarking on the absence of fed courts.
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Shiiiit. Same thing happened to me, but the PR class was curved. I was mad as hell when I looked around the room on the first day of class.Kohinoor wrote:Randomly happened to me in my very not curved PR class.Adjudicator wrote:I'd imagine this tends to happen with classes that are not curved.Kohinoor wrote:Sometimes you just randomly get Law Reviewed though. The week before finals, you actually look around your 16 person Law and the Rights of Indigenous Birds seminar and there are 12 people from Law Review there.
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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
LR people aren't really intimidating at my school. We have a weird system for write-on (not sure if others have the same). A good chunk of spots are entirely write-on based, and some spots are decided by factors besides quality of writing or grades, so it really doesn't correlate all that much with high grades here.
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I wish I had done this.G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Actually, you could just wait to take fed courts until 3L year, after the first big wave of clerkship hiring is over. Then, you'd be a lot less worried about a grades-hit.flcath wrote:None. This creates the issue addressed by the OP.Adjudicator wrote:But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
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wouldnt u be competing with the 2Ls of the next classvanwinkle wrote:I wish I had done this.G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Actually, you could just wait to take fed courts until 3L year, after the first big wave of clerkship hiring is over. Then, you'd be a lot less worried about a grades-hit.flcath wrote:None. This creates the issue addressed by the OP.Adjudicator wrote:But, what choice do you really have if your goal is a prestigious clerkship?
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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
Yes, but you'd already have been through the clerkship application season, so a bad grade would hurt you less at the end of your 3rd year than during your 2L year.HarlandBassett wrote: wouldnt u be competing with the 2Ls of the next class
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Uh. What?HarlandBassett wrote:wouldnt u be competing with the 2Ls of the next class
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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
Typo. My PR also curved.Renzo wrote:Shiiiit. Same thing happened to me, but the PR class was curved. I was mad as hell when I looked around the room on the first day of class.Kohinoor wrote:Randomly happened to me in my very not curved PR class.Adjudicator wrote:I'd imagine this tends to happen with classes that are not curved.Kohinoor wrote:Sometimes you just randomly get Law Reviewed though. The week before finals, you actually look around your 16 person Law and the Rights of Indigenous Birds seminar and there are 12 people from Law Review there.
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--ImageRemoved--G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, some schools offer fed courts in the fall, whent he 2L gunners are usually paying attention to other things. So you can slip in, face less competition, and still learn the same stuff--all without the pre-clerkship hiring pressure, since you're taking it 3L year. Best of all worlds, really.Renzo wrote:Yes, but you'd already have been through the clerkship application season, so a bad grade would hurt you less at the end of your 3rd year than during your 2L year.HarlandBassett wrote: wouldnt u be competing with the 2Ls of the next class
Also, while I feel for those of you who regret taking fed courts 2L year, it isn't like you weren't warned.
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Here's a lesson for you, baby- you come at fed courts, you best not miss.HarlandBassett wrote:--ImageRemoved--G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, some schools offer fed courts in the fall, whent he 2L gunners are usually paying attention to other things. So you can slip in, face less competition, and still learn the same stuff--all without the pre-clerkship hiring pressure, since you're taking it 3L year. Best of all worlds, really.Renzo wrote:Yes, but you'd already have been through the clerkship application season, so a bad grade would hurt you less at the end of your 3rd year than during your 2L year.HarlandBassett wrote: wouldnt u be competing with the 2Ls of the next class
Also, while I feel for those of you who regret taking fed courts 2L year, it isn't like you weren't warned.
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Re: Why it's never a good idea to take Fed Courts
From what I've been told: 3L year, pass/fail .
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