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Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 pm
by northwood
what are some good programs to increase your typing speed without compromising accuracy??

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:46 pm
by beach_terror
northwood wrote:what are some good programs to increase your typing speed without compromising accuracy??
app.typrx.com

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:27 pm
by Heartford
TheTopBloke wrote:
Stringer6 wrote:Any suggestions or reading materials on "working a happy hour"? This sounds horrifying. I despise these types of social situations, although i guess i could buckle down if it really mattered. And when are these happy hours? 1L?
I hate that shit too. I wouldn't even waste my time if I were you. Networking is highly overrated.
Agreed. Just be nice, friendly, and not stupid. Nobody enjoys the sensation of being approached by someone who wants to "network" with them, which is the vibe you will project if you waste time reading books about it. Just putting yourself out there, acting normal, and not being a snob or a shitheel is really all that is necessary. Some people will like you, some won't.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:38 pm
by kehoema2
Everyone who gave serious responses, thanks for the good input.

Everyone who gave sarcastic responses, thanks for the laughs.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:47 pm
by dakatz
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:This thread is a testament to why 0Ls should be barred from posting in this forum, or at least prominently labeled as 0Ls when they do. There's a sticky dedicated to OP's question, and all discussion should've taken place there. Now, thanks to OP, the students and graduates forum can add another prep thread, started by a person who is neither a student nor a graduate, to the 1298472387562 that came before it. Great. This feat is made all the more exciting by virtue of advice given by still other non-students/graduates.

All that aside, there's some pretty bad advice above, too.
It seems like it would be a really smart TLS feature to have some kind of designation that indicates if you are 0L, 1L, etc. Like some color-coded thing for example. This way we could avoid the confusion that arises when people forget to indicate what year they are before they give "advice".

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:23 pm
by thecilent
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:This thread is a testament to why 0Ls should be barred from posting in this forum, or at least prominently labeled as 0Ls when they do. There's a sticky dedicated to OP's question, and all discussion should've taken place there. Now, thanks to OP, the students and graduates forum can add another prep thread, started by a person who is neither a student nor a graduate, to the 1298472387562 that came before it. Great. This feat is made all the more exciting by virtue of advice given by still other non-students/graduates.

All that aside, there's some pretty bad advice above, too.
Yeah well go a few ages back - there's really good advice itt, actually.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:20 pm
by thecilent
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:
thecilent wrote:
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:This thread is a testament to why 0Ls should be barred from posting in this forum, or at least prominently labeled as 0Ls when they do. There's a sticky dedicated to OP's question, and all discussion should've taken place there. Now, thanks to OP, the students and graduates forum can add another prep thread, started by a person who is neither a student nor a graduate, to the 1298472387562 that came before it. Great. This feat is made all the more exciting by virtue of advice given by still other non-students/graduates.

All that aside, there's some pretty bad advice above, too.
Yeah well go a few [p]ages back - there's really good advice itt, actually.
Not to be rude, but honestly, how would you know?
Yeah I guess you're right. But I do know it came from some 2 and 3Ls who seemed to have done well. Plus, I meant good in the sense that it's different little tidbits that some of the success threads don't necessarily touch on.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:39 pm
by Heartford
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:
thecilent wrote:Yeah I guess you're right. But I do know it came from some 2 and 3Ls who seemed to have done well. Plus, I meant good in the sense that it's different little tidbits that some of the success threads don't necessarily touch on.
I see where you're coming from, and there's no question that many of the folks posting above have (1) done well and (2) have had some time/experience on which to base their comments. But if you really think about it, that doesn't actually get you very far. You never really know how well someone did, or why, or whether their approach will work for you. In fact, most of the time, the person posting doesn't know the answer to the second to last question. The person never knows the answer to the last one.

Moreover, crediting someone's advice because they did well isn't very helpful, since that approach doesn't really give you a way forward when two people who did well give conflicting advice. I suppose you could resolve the conflict in favor of your pre-conceived notion that 0L prep will help somehow--this is what most 0Ls do--but that's not a very well-reasoned solution.

The critical part about asking for advice is being willing to listen when the answer you get isn't what you had hoped or expected. Lots of people above have explained, I think persuasively, that 0L prep of most types is a tremendous waste of time. A small number have, to varying degrees, taken a different view. Do whatever you want, but be realistic about whether your're actually seeking advice, or just affirmation.
Take my advice: Internet advice is bad advice.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:40 pm
by thecilent
True. Thanks; that's helpful.

My main thing when trying to look for advice is to see different perspectives and different things that people said 'worked' for them. At lesat I will kinda have a few different directions to go when I'm trying to figure out what works for me..

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:00 pm
by Leira7905
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:This thread is a testament to why 0Ls should be barred from posting in this forum, or at least prominently labeled as 0Ls when they do. There's a sticky dedicated to OP's question, and all discussion should've taken place there. Now, thanks to OP, the students and graduates forum can add another prep thread, started by a person who is neither a student nor a graduate, to the 1298472387562 that came before it. Great. This feat is made all the more exciting by virtue of advice given by still other non-students/graduates.

All that aside, there's some pretty bad advice above, too.
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays....
I kid, I kid.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:48 am
by Stringer6
This thread is a testament to why 0Ls should be barred from posting in this forum, or at least prominently labeled as 0Ls when they do. There's a sticky dedicated to OP's question, and all discussion should've taken place there. Now, thanks to OP, the students and graduates forum can add another prep thread, started by a person who is neither a student nor a graduate, to the 1298472387562 that came before it. Great.
great. just great. now everything is ruined.

Re: What should I do to prepare for law school

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:51 am
by Aeroplane
I second the following advice from prior posts as helpful to doing well 1L year, though none of it is absolutely necessary (I didn't do #1 at all and didn't do enough of #2):
If you can't type fast, learn to.

...get as much of your life in order as you can so you have as much time as possible to focus on school. Have a pretty solid exercise regimen. Get an idea of how you'll eat healthfully while at school. If you're commuting, make sure your car is in good shape - something I wish I'd done.

This may sound ridiculously premature, but get some of your 1L summer job stuff done before you start LS. You're going to be overwhelmed as things get moving and around Dec. 1st, you're probably going to be feeling the walls of your first exams start to close in.
Improving writing skills, style and grammar is great. It will help you do well in your summer job, in Legal Writing, and in your school's Law Review competition. IMO it is unlikely to improve your performance on law school exams, unless your writing skills are currently so bad that your writing is flat out incomprehensible. If that's the case, you may want to get some supervised writing help over the summer, like taking a class or hiring a tutor.

I wouldn't do this pre-law school, but by October take a look at some top student answers (not a professor's answer memo) to traditional issue-spotter exams. They don't have to be in the subjects you're taking, or from your school, just try to skim over a variety. You are likely to see more than a few exams with writing that is downright ugly, contains poor grammar, sentence fragments, runons, and many typos, but efficiently crams in legal points. Most of the exams will probably also have lots of bullet points, headings and/or frequent paragraph breaks to make them easier for the professor to grade.

Although I endorse learning to type faster, it's not because I think long exams are necessary for top grades. It's just that faster typing will inevitably give you more time to think, read, spot issues and look things up during exams. If it was possible (maybe it is, I don't know) to improve reading speed as easily as to improve typing speed, that would be useful 0L prep as well.