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Re: TLS Success in Law School Myths....DEBUNKED

Postby prezidentv8 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:30 pm

A'nold wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
A'nold wrote:It is the epitome of a meritocracy.


I was with you right up until there too! I think it's a bad proxy for "merit" even though, hey, we do have a metric to measure something by.

But I think I should disclose that I really really really have a problem with competitive school in the first place, just as a methodological sort of matter, so I don't think I'm unbiased about the meritocracy part either... :mrgreen:


You know what I think is actually the reason I get great grades in ls? I love competition and I LOVE to play games. I approached ls as a game from the very beginning. I am a good kind of competitor though and definitely not cocky or a poor sport. I needed to say that to strip that auto-gunner cloak that just appeared around me.... :)


Yeah I'm pretty competitive but I just can't be that way for school. For school I tend not to care about how others did, I just look at it as getting my own job done.

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Postby 09042014 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:39 pm

When people say luck they mean not correlated with effort.

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Postby rejectmaster » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:44 pm

in our contracts exam the highest grade was a 63% or something (according to our professor)

after looking at the exam again with no time constraints and the benefit of a crib sheet it seems that you can accomplish that via breadth or depth, but there are certain details that the professor wanted to see and some that he didn't, regardless of their validity.

that makes the whole thing seem really screwy particularly if you're used to quantitative disciplines. exams are graded fairly, in that they're anonymous and judged by the same set of standards, but there are a lot of other variables that make performance very difficult to predict for a lot of people.

in one exam i mentioned some policy crap, (i hate writing about policy) maybe two sentences worth, and it made a huge difference even though it was a total afterthought and i didn't perceive it as enhancing my argument at all but someone ripped ass and it reminded me a class session in which i ripped ass during a large policy discussion.

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Postby thexfactor » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:06 am

I was top 10% at my old school T50 and my new school T30. That class rank isn't bad considering I can't spell words longer than 6 letters.

I feel like i am a shitty writer and i have about 1000000 spelling and grammar mistakes on my exams. By some miracle of god, i keep on getting As.

Honestly, I think it is partially luck. Some people out of ugrad just naturally think and write like lawyers. Some naturally are able to do it, and for others, it takes a lot of time to manage.

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Postby prezidentv8 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:11 am

rejectmaster wrote:someone ripped ass and it reminded me a class session in which i ripped ass during a large policy discussion.


A lame attempt to distract classmates during the test and lower the curve?

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Postby rejectmaster » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:17 am

prezidentv8 wrote:
rejectmaster wrote:someone ripped ass and it reminded me a class session in which i ripped ass during a large policy discussion.


A lame attempt to distract classmates during the test and lower the curve?


dude i can imagine few things worse than clenching in a fart while pounding out words on an exam

if i had to take a dump during an exam i'd have to forfeit the few minutes of exam writing and get to business

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Postby A'nold » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:35 am

rejectmaster wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
rejectmaster wrote:someone ripped ass and it reminded me a class session in which i ripped ass during a large policy discussion.


A lame attempt to distract classmates during the test and lower the curve?


dude i can imagine few things worse than clenching in a fart while pounding out words on an exam

if i had to take a dump during an exam i'd have to forfeit the few minutes of exam writing and get to business


People that can fart in a classroom are some weird people indeed.

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Postby rejectmaster » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:43 am

A'nold wrote:
rejectmaster wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
rejectmaster wrote:someone ripped ass and it reminded me a class session in which i ripped ass during a large policy discussion.


A lame attempt to distract classmates during the test and lower the curve?


dude i can imagine few things worse than clenching in a fart while pounding out words on an exam

if i had to take a dump during an exam i'd have to forfeit the few minutes of exam writing and get to business


People that can fart in a classroom are some weird people indeed.


all boys school from age 1-18 will remove any concern for that kind of thing, i got used to just freely letting it go

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Postby prezidentv8 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:05 am

rejectmaster wrote:all boys school from age 1-18 will remove any concern for that kind of thing, i got used to just freely letting it go

Presence of women makes us oh so polite...

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Postby romothesavior » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:55 am

My strategy this semester (based on what worked for me last semester) is a 180 from OP's strategy. I guess I just don't go to an elite enough school to get it, but I find that cases are next to worthless (and class is only slightly less worthless). Supplementing down the stretch seemed to be the best approach. Whatever works for you I guess.

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Postby A'nold » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:27 am

romothesavior wrote:My strategy this semester (based on what worked for me last semester) is a 180 from OP's strategy. I guess I just don't go to an elite enough school to get it, but I find that cases are next to worthless (and class is only slightly less worthless). Supplementing down the stretch seemed to be the best approach. Whatever works for you I guess.


Wait...did you pay OP his thread toll for allowing your lowly, wretched self to post in his glorious presence? :shock: *bows to op*

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Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:57 am

Can we just agree that different people study and learn in different ways, that it's a little bit luck and mostly how well you write what your professor wants to hear, and go back to mocking the OP for being a gigantic fuckbag douche?

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Postby seespotrun » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:39 pm

kalvano wrote:Can we just agree that different people study and learn in different ways, that it's a little bit luck and mostly how well you write what your professor wants to hear, and go back to mocking the OP for being a gigantic fuckbag douche?


Yeah, I really thought that I nicely triggered a string of mocking the OP, but it dried up way too quickly IMO.

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Postby ShakeDemHatersOff » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:52 pm

The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.

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Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:04 pm

ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.

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Postby 09042014 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:06 pm

kalvano wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.


I wonder why he couldn't get into Harvard?

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Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:06 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.


I wonder why he couldn't get into Harvard?



All the kids at Yale are laughing at him.

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Postby ShakeDemHatersOff » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:13 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.


I wonder why he couldn't get into Harvard?


went there for undergrad....I prefer diversity when it comes to my degrees so I never applied to HLS

only applied to Yale, Stanford, Columbia & Chicago

got into all of them

choose CLS because they offered the Hamilton

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Postby savagecheater » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:41 pm

ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.


I wonder why he couldn't get into Harvard?


went there for undergrad....I prefer diversity when it comes to my degrees so I never applied to HLS

only applied to Yale, Stanford, Columbia & Chicago

got into all of them

choose CLS because they offered the Hamilton


I'm sure.

So uh, what's your squat?

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Postby fatduck » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:01 pm

ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:I prefer diversity when it comes to my degrees so I never applied to HLS


you are my new favorite poster

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Postby clintonius » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:17 pm

ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:The insecurity by people in this thread is hilarious.



Says the person who, judging by your post history, will fight anyone over the fact that Columbia is significantly better than NYU (which is ridiculous...that's like saying having a Bentley makes you better than a guy with a Ferrari), and makes unwarranted and baseless attacks on schools ranked lower than yours. Those assumptions are completely inaccurate, by the way.

You seem to be awfully insecure about yourself and your school to go around having to try and prove something to everybody.


I wonder why he couldn't get into Harvard?


went there for undergrad....I prefer diversity when it comes to my degrees so I never applied to HLS

only applied to Yale, Stanford, Columbia & Chicago

got into all of them

choose CLS because they offered the Hamilton

ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:NYU 1L here. Feel free to PM me with questions.

I will say that NYU students are very chill and social. Lots of fun people here and I actually love it here.

ShakeDemHatersOff seems bitter about something . . .


yeah not getting to Harvard

prestige matters in this world which is why I'm keeping it real

?

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Postby Renzo » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:11 pm

fatduck wrote:
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:I prefer diversity when it comes to my degrees so I never applied to HLS


you are my new favorite poster

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Postby francisConn » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:49 pm

I think maybe the word y'all were looking for in place of luck is arbitrariness.

Also, disregarded this thread once I realized that TTTexas isn't elite enough for this info to be relevant for my 1L. I did find it useful, however, to learn that I won't be learning the law, or, in the very least, I certainly won't be understanding it. Needless to say, this is a liberating revelation.

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Postby uzpakalis » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:19 pm

cool...

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Postby A'nold » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:57 am

Next up: Sasquatch.




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