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damn, for some reason all i want is general tso chicken right now.
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Sexist pig.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Maybe the women participated more or had more significant contributions than the men?
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Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.Unitas wrote:Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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Sounds like the San Francisco firefighters, iirc.Unitas wrote:Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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If I were you I wouldn't bother (primarily because you get no benefit out of it other than fighting the good fight).dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.
If you care, then you may as well start with the dean. I think the prof is more likely to give you the run around.
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yeah, this is wat im thinking...just not enough incentive for me to make a stink about it.bk187 wrote:If I were you I wouldn't bother (primarily because you get no benefit out of it other than fighting the good fight).dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.
If you care, then you may as well start with the dean. I think the prof is more likely to give you the run around.
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Oh, well don't rule out suing...dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.Unitas wrote:Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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Real suggestion, make google e-mail address with fake information that is obviously for protection from a coffee shop internet access point, e-mail dean of student service about this issue and ask to remain anonymous, wait for reply. He'll reply saying professor didn't break any rules. Hit up girls that got good grades that belong to you. They owe you now. Win. Move on with life.
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I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.Desert Fox wrote:Sexist pig.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Maybe the women participated more or had more significant contributions than the men?
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Yeah, mis-characterizing what happened makes your argument a lot more tenable.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.Desert Fox wrote:Sexist pig.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Maybe the women participated more or had more significant contributions than the men?
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This thread like, delivers.
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Try again.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.Desert Fox wrote:Sexist pig.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Maybe the women participated more or had more significant contributions than the men?
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/facetiousBildungsroman wrote:Yeah, mis-characterizing what happened makes your argument a lot more tenable.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.Desert Fox wrote:Sexist pig.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Maybe the women participated more or had more significant contributions than the men?
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See above post.Desert Fox wrote:Try again.
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Is there a word for embarrassing one's self then pretending it wasn't genuine?
I'm looking at german. They are good at creating new words.
I'm looking at german. They are good at creating new words.
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What? Pretty sure I was kidding, honey. The only time I was serious was in my original post.Desert Fox wrote:Is there a word for embarrassing one's self then pretending it wasn't genuine?
I'm looking at german. They are good at creating new words.
But thanks for informing me of my genuine intent because I had no clue otherwise.
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I was assuming the comment was facetious and was meant to actually advance the argument that it is sexist to assume that women outperforming men is the result of sex discrimination. Are you saying there were two layers of sarcasm here?GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/facetiousBildungsroman wrote:Yeah, mis-characterizing what happened makes your argument a lot more tenable.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote: I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.
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Probably. I actually don't think that OP is unreasonable to think it could be a weird sort of favoritism. But sex discrimination...not sure.Bildungsroman wrote:I was assuming the comment was facetious and was meant to actually advance the argument that it is sexist to assume that women outperforming men is the result of sex discrimination. Are you saying there were two layers of sarcasm here?GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/facetiousBildungsroman wrote:Yeah, mis-characterizing what happened makes your argument a lot more tenable.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote: I think its pretty obvious that a woman can earn a higher grade than her male counterpart only when a male professor finds her sexually attractive. Most bitches ain't got brains to do it themselves.
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Yeah, I'm confused as to how someone could see a woman, and an intelligent one at that, talk about "most bitches not having brains" and not realize it was sarcasm...GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:What? Pretty sure I was kidding, honey. The only time I was serious was in my original post.Desert Fox wrote:Is there a word for embarrassing one's self then pretending it wasn't genuine?
I'm looking at german. They are good at creating new words.
But thanks for informing me of my genuine intent because I had no clue otherwise.
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Eh, he got that case wrong anyway. Desicriminatory results are not good enough. Needs intent.dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.Unitas wrote:Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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Drake014 wrote:Eh, he got that case wrong anyway. Desicriminatory results are not good enough. Needs intent.dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.Unitas wrote:Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.dood wrote:i couldnt have phrased it better myself!!
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Calm down internet white-knight. Everybody recognized her post as sarcastic. However, that sarcasm seems predicated upon a clear misunderstanding of what's actually at issue.Aqualibrium wrote:
Yeah, I'm confused as to how someone could see a woman, and an intelligent one at that, talk about "most bitches not having brains" and not realize it was sarcasm...
A weird sort of favoritism that manifests itself in the men all being placed in the bottom half of the class and the women all being placed in the top half? I'm curious what kind of "weird sort of favoritism" could do that without somehow involving their gender. Very weird sort indeed. Sure it could be a coincidence that it broke down that way, but when 40% of the grade is subjective that raises an interesting question.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Probably. I actually don't think that OP is unreasonable to think it could be a weird sort of favoritism. But sex discrimination...not sure.Bildungsroman wrote: Are you saying there were two layers of sarcasm here?
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I didn't think I got riled up. Also, there is a reason only Fox's statement was quoted...If I felt you didn't get the sarcasm I would have quoted you as well.Bildungsroman wrote:Calm down internet white-knight. Everybody recognized her post as sarcastic. However, that sarcasm seems predicated upon a clear misunderstanding of what's actually at issue.Aqualibrium wrote:
Yeah, I'm confused as to how someone could see a woman, and an intelligent one at that, talk about "most bitches not having brains" and not realize it was sarcasm...
A weird sort of favoritism that manifests itself in the men all being placed in the bottom half of the class and the women all being placed in the top half? I'm curious what kind of "weird sort of favoritism" could do that without somehow involving their gender. Very weird sort indeed.GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Probably. I actually don't think that OP is unreasonable to think it could be a weird sort of favoritism. But sex discrimination...not sure.Bildungsroman wrote: Are you saying there were two layers of sarcasm here?
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Did some douche really quote me to point out I added a letter to a word?Aqualibrium wrote:Drake014 wrote:Eh, he got that case wrong anyway. Desicriminatory results are not good enough. Needs intent.dood wrote:well either way i wouldnt sue in a court of law. more wondering if i should bring this up to the prof and/or a dean.Unitas wrote: Does pattern and practice discrimination work for gender? I remember reading about African American firefighters or something that basically held that regardless of discriminatory intent of the grading if the ends are discriminatory it is discriminatory. Wish I could remember more for you or if I didn't just make most of this up in my head - either way good luck.
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