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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby of Benito Cereno » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:38 am

finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby swc65 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:54 am

of Benito Cereno wrote:finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?



From what I have been told this is good. One person said ~top 15%, but I am not sure how accurate that is. It seems somewhat realistic if top 30% is 3.41.
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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby swc65 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 am

Sogui wrote:Yea, I will reserve my judgment until I see my exam in person, but this is one of those times where you want to go back and adjust your course evaluation. The class was already shaky compared to my others, having a roulette wheel for a grade is just silly. I should just wait and see what my exam says, assuming that it has been marked...



yeah that class was just a cluster from day one. Not totally her fault, but I definitely think she made it worse.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Sogui » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:03 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?


Congrats, that puts you safely in the top 20% I'd say.

3.41+ = Stone Scholar = Top ~30%

On a related note, this discussion would probably be better in the Columbia 2013 thread. There is a healthy discussion of our curve in a 0L thread and a nice discussion of CLS grades here, but the thread designed to keep a strong continuous discussion of matters important to class of 2013 has tumbleweeds rolling through it.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby UnitarySpace » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:04 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?


A-, A- B+? top 15% if you keep it up.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby A&O » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:21 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?


You're in absolutely great shape, unless you're targeting a place like WLRK or S&C.
ShakeDemHatersOff wrote:
Sogui wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:for all you CLSers with grades: were they always preceded by profs emailing saying they were done grading?


One did, One didn't.

Nothing says "Here's your grade, please don't contact me ever again" like a professor quietly slipping in a grade, letting the Registrar notify you, and never saying another word about the exam.

Morrison gave us notification in advance and put up model answers (one by yours truly). It felt a lot more humane and it was almost like he wanted the exams to be a learning experience. All I know is I vastly prefer take-home exams now.


whats your GPA since you think your hot

3.76 for me :shock:


Neither of you is helping your school with this kind of conversation.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby UnitarySpace » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:24 pm

Here at CLS, we're too busy cutting each others throats to worry about information like this leaking out.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Foozle » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:06 pm

Don't worry bros, haters gon' hate.

But seriously, this makes us CLSers look like huge tools. Should be tools in the CLS thread IMO.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby of Benito Cereno » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:15 pm

A&O wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:finally all three grades
3.57 at CLS
is this good?
what %?


You're in absolutely great shape, unless you're targeting a place like WLRK or S&C.



what do you think the gpa cutoff is for firms like that or top DC firms like covington, w&c, and wilmer?
Would I need a 3.7+ for Wachtell, Cravath, and W&C?

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby A&O » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:17 pm

what do you think the gpa cutoff is for firms like that or top DC firms like covington, w&c, and wilmer?
Would I need a 3.7+ for Wachtell, Cravath, and W&C?


For Wachtell, a 3.7+ is probably a good place to start. 3.7+ is more than enough (in my opinion) for Cravath. But, at this point, there are other firms in the V10 worth taking over it, so it's not worth worrying about.

3.7+ is good enough for Covington, in my opinion. Not enough for W&C. Good enough for WilmerHale, though again there are other DC firms that are worth considering if you are looking at WilmerHale.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby of Benito Cereno » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:23 pm

A&O wrote:
what do you think the gpa cutoff is for firms like that or top DC firms like covington, w&c, and wilmer?
Would I need a 3.7+ for Wachtell, Cravath, and W&C?


For Wachtell, a 3.7+ is probably a good place to start. 3.7+ is more than enough (in my opinion) for Cravath. But, at this point, there are other firms in the V10 worth taking over it, so it's not worth worrying about.

3.7+ is good enough for Covington, in my opinion. Not enough for W&C. Good enough for WilmerHale, though again there are other DC firms that are worth considering if you are looking at WilmerHale.

so, in your opinion i would need something like 3 As and an A- for W&C? (that's like 3.77)
always was my dream firm and knew it would be hard getting there from cls. too bad a little underperformance this semester is likely going to close that option off.
Would it be insane to bid heavily on DC with a ~3.6 from CLS?

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby A&O » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:36 pm

always was my dream firm and knew it would be hard getting there from cls. too bad a little underperformance this semester is likely going to close that option off.
Would it be insane to bid heavily on DC with a ~3.6 from CLS?


Come on, really? W&C is your dream firm? I was liking you before you said that.

No, you wouldn't be insane to do DC with a 3.6, but that's my opinion.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby of Benito Cereno » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:38 pm

A&O wrote:
always was my dream firm and knew it would be hard getting there from cls. too bad a little underperformance this semester is likely going to close that option off.
Would it be insane to bid heavily on DC with a ~3.6 from CLS?


Come on, really? W&C is your dream firm? I was liking you before you said that.

No, you wouldn't be insane to do DC with a 3.6, but that's my opinion.

I have a couple of friends who are working there out of hls and they really love it and can't stop talking up its virtues. mostly, though I'm attracted to it because it seems people do especially cool things after leaving (not so much while there)

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby A&O » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:51 pm

I have a couple of friends who are working there out of hls and they really love it and can't stop talking up its virtues. mostly, though I'm attracted to it because it seems people do especially cool things after leaving (not so much while there)


There are many firms where many people have great experiences. W&C is a great place, I'm sure. But it's impractical to approach OCI with a "dream firm." So much depends on your interviewer's idiosyncrasies, your idiosyncrasies, etc. Too many variables. Best to go in with a set of top choices.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby RVP11 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:25 pm

A&O wrote:
what do you think the gpa cutoff is for firms like that or top DC firms like covington, w&c, and wilmer?
Would I need a 3.7+ for Wachtell, Cravath, and W&C?


For Wachtell, a 3.7+ is probably a good place to start. 3.7+ is more than enough (in my opinion) for Cravath. But, at this point, there are other firms in the V10 worth taking over it, so it's not worth worrying about.

3.7+ is good enough for Covington, in my opinion. Not enough for W&C. Good enough for WilmerHale, though again there are other DC firms that are worth considering if you are looking at WilmerHale.


What class rank is 3.7 at CLS? I would guess that if 3.7 from UVA is good enough for W&C, so is a 3.7 from CLS...

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby UnitarySpace » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:29 pm

3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby of Benito Cereno » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:56 pm

UnitarySpace wrote:3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

from what people have told me today, 3.7 is around top 5% for 1Ls

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby somewhatwayward » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:37 pm

when did shaw come out last year?

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby UnitarySpace » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:42 pm

At the townhall dean GK told us that they were aiming for next monday/tuesday to have all grades out.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby somewhatwayward » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:46 pm

^
bummer

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby RVP11 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:29 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:
UnitarySpace wrote:3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

from what people have told me today, 3.7 is around top 5% for 1Ls


That's easily good enough for W&C, then. And any firm in the country, really.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby vamedic03 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:37 pm

RVP11 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:
UnitarySpace wrote:3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

from what people have told me today, 3.7 is around top 5% for 1Ls


That's easily good enough for W&C, then. And any firm in the country, really.


TITCR - top 5% at any Top 14 will get you past the grade threshold for any firm.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby A&O » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:38 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
RVP11 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:
UnitarySpace wrote:3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

from what people have told me today, 3.7 is around top 5% for 1Ls


That's easily good enough for W&C, then. And any firm in the country, really.


TITCR - top 5% at any Top 14 will get you past the grade threshold for any firm.


Yeah my bad. I didn't realize 3.7 was that good at CLS.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby huckabees » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:39 pm

RVP11 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:
UnitarySpace wrote:3.67 (A-) is around top 10% from the chart that has been floating around these threads.

from what people have told me today, 3.7 is around top 5% for 1Ls


That's easily good enough for W&C, then. And any firm in the country, really.


+1 ... if you don't get the job at that point, it is really not due to your grades.

So for the more "normal GPA" people out there, can someone comment on what (approximate) GPAs we'd need for the various vault ranges ITE? E.g., for V10, V20, V50, V100, biglaw in general, etc. (I am aware that vault doesn't necessarily correlate with selectivity, but just speaking roughly for now).

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby RVP11 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:59 am

huckabees wrote:So for the more "normal GPA" people out there, can someone comment on what (approximate) GPAs we'd need for the various vault ranges ITE? E.g., for V10, V20, V50, V100, biglaw in general, etc. (I am aware that vault doesn't necessarily correlate with selectivity, but just speaking roughly for now).


The tough part of this is that there are firms at each level (V10, V20, V50, V100) that will go down to medianish at T14. And there are firms at each level where you probably have no chance even with top quarter at T14. Vault ranking has just about ZERO correlation with selectivity outside the V25 or so. You'll really have to ask about particular firms.




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