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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby abudaba » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:30 pm

SeymourShowz wrote:is it ok to be pissed with A-'s?? I've got three so far and honestly I'm a little upset. For some reason it almost feels worse than a B. What the fuck do i have to do to get a regular god damn A.


really depends on where the curve is set I suppose.. but hey, it beats the hell out of a B+

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby uwb09 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:31 pm

SeymourShowz wrote:is it ok to be pissed with A-'s?? I've got three so far and honestly I'm a little upset. For some reason it almost feels worse than a B. What the fuck do i have to do to get a regular god damn A.

my property professor this semester, it's her policy to only give 1 solid "A" (one, uno, einz, odin) out of an 80 student section. She fills up her A to A- % requirement all in "A-"s.

I got 2 "B+"s that were minor stupid mistakes away form "A-"s, I'd kill for even just one to be an A-, would change my GPA substantially

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:32 pm

SeymourShowz wrote:is it ok to be pissed with A-'s?? I've got three so far and honestly I'm a little upset. For some reason it almost feels worse than a B. What the fuck do i have to do to get a regular god damn A.



Ask your fellow classmates :lol:

Then be like I kid, I kid

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby existenz » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:38 pm

uwb09 wrote:my property professor this semester, it's her policy to only give 1 solid "A" (one, uno, einz, odin) out of an 80 student section. She fills up her A to A- % requirement all in "A-"s.

that's fucked and the administration should talk to her

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby IAFG » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:39 pm

existenz wrote:
uwb09 wrote:my property professor this semester, it's her policy to only give 1 solid "A" (one, uno, einz, odin) out of an 80 student section. She fills up her A to A- % requirement all in "A-"s.

that's fucked and the administration should talk to her

puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby SeymourShowz » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:40 pm

uzpakalis wrote:What classes did you get those grades in?


Torts, Property, and Legal Writing.

I'm still waiting for Civ Pro which is sure to ruin my GPA.. I think I bombed that exam.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Bustang » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:41 pm

My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Grizz » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:41 pm

SeymourShowz wrote:
uzpakalis wrote:What classes did you get those grades in?


Torts, Property, and Legal Writing.

I'm still waiting for Civ Pro which is sure to ruin my GPA.. I think I bombed that exam.


Just wait and see hurr durr

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby JordynAsh » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).


What a doucher.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby romothesavior » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Got my Legal Practice memo tonight. Not bad, but not good. My New Year's resolution is to take that class more seriously, because I kinda half-assed it all semester.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby seespotrun » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:44 pm

Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).


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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby uzpakalis » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:46 pm

SeymourShowz wrote:
uzpakalis wrote:What classes did you get those grades in?


I'm still waiting for Civ Pro which is sure to ruin my GPA.. I think I bombed that exam.


that probably means you did extremely well...

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby kalvano » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:47 pm

I hate all of you with grades. But congratulations to those who have done so well.

It's really hard to be motivated for class without knowing what my grade was for that class.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Holly Golightly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:48 pm

IAFG wrote:
existenz wrote:
uwb09 wrote:my property professor this semester, it's her policy to only give 1 solid "A" (one, uno, einz, odin) out of an 80 student section. She fills up her A to A- % requirement all in "A-"s.

that's fucked and the administration should talk to her

puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.

I have lots of opinions on this.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby IAFG » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:49 pm

Holly Golightly wrote:puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.

I have lots of opinions on this.[/quote]
i suspect your section will be conspicuously under-represented on LR

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Helmholtz » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:52 pm

seespotrun wrote:
Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).


****


Hey, Palin-in-training, let's keep any law professor murder-related talk to a minimum.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby IAFG » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:53 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
seespotrun wrote:
Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).


****


Hey, Sarah Palin in training, let's keep any law professor murder-related talk to a minimum.

:( wai you giving other people my title :(

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Baylan » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:55 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
seespotrun wrote:
Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).


****


Hey, Palin-in-training, let's keep any law professor murder-related talk to a minimum.


Pretty sure murder-related talk is pretty common in law school... Even by professors.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby existenz » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:56 pm

Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).

maybe that could fly at a TTTT, but even then you'd expect a few A students once in a while

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby rayiner » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:04 pm

IAFG wrote:
Holly Golightly wrote:puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.
I have lots of opinions on this.

i suspect your section will be conspicuously under-represented on LR


There is only so much a professor like that can do at NU. A maxed-out curve at NU is:

A+ 7%
A 15%
A- 15%
B+ 30%
B 23%
B- 10%
---
Average = 3.41

A minimum curve is:

A+ 3%
A 12%
A- 10%
B+ 15%
B 30%
B- 15%
C+ 7.5%
C 7.5%
---
Average = 3.10

Assuming 3 of your 4 professors give the typical grade of 3.35, and one of your professors maxes things out while one of someone else's minimizes the curve, then the lucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.29 and the unlucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.36. Assuming this happens only 1 semester of 1L (you'd have to be very lucky or very unlucky to get more than one such professor), you're talking about 3.32 versus 3.35. Pretty minuscule difference.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby D-hops » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:08 pm

rayiner wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Holly Golightly wrote:puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.
I have lots of opinions on this.

i suspect your section will be conspicuously under-represented on LR


There is only so much a professor like that can do at NU. A maxed-out curve at NU is:

A+ 7%
A 15%
A- 15%
B+ 30%
B 23%
B- 10%
---
Average = 3.41

A minimum curve is:

A+ 3%
A 12%
A- 10%
B+ 15%
B 30%
B- 15%
C+ 7.5%
C 7.5%
---
Average = 3.10

Assuming 3 of your 4 professors give the typical grade of 3.35, and one of your professors maxes things out while one of someone else's minimizes the curve, then the lucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.29 and the unlucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.36. Assuming this happens only 1 semester of 1L (you'd have to be very lucky or very unlucky to get more than one such professor), you're talking about 3.32 versus 3.35. Pretty minuscule difference.


Quit being logical and mathematical. This is the place for "zOMG profs are so screwing us!"

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby IAFG » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:10 pm

rayiner wrote:
There is only so much a professor like that can do at NU. A maxed-out curve at NU is:

A+ 7%
A 15%
A- 15%
B+ 30%
B 23%
B- 10%
---
Average = 3.41

A minimum curve is:

A+ 3%
A 12%
A- 10%
B+ 15%
B 30%
B- 15%
C+ 7.5%
C 7.5%
---
Average = 3.10

Assuming 3 of your 4 professors give the typical grade of 3.35, and one of your professors maxes things out while one of someone else's minimizes the curve, then the lucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.29 and the unlucky person's section will have an average GPA of 3.36. Assuming this happens only 1 semester of 1L (you'd have to be very lucky or very unlucky to get more than one such professor), you're talking about 3.32 versus 3.35. Pretty minuscule difference.

assuming only one prof wants to fuck with your section.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby romothesavior » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:11 pm

rayiner wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Holly Golightly wrote:puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.
I have lots of opinions on this.

i suspect your section will be conspicuously under-represented on LR


There is only so much a professor like that can do at NU. A maxed-out curve at NU is:

This is why I prefer the grading system here. It is numbers based rather than grades based. The profs can only give between an 86.5-87.5 mean, and almost all give an 87.5 mean. Sure, some profs go crazy and give out a 100 and some high 90s while others make 95 or so the top grade, but you can't see these big differences in the average GPA of a class.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby rayiner » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:23 pm

romothesavior wrote:
rayiner wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Holly Golightly wrote:puts some sections at a disadvantage over others. that's unfortunate.
I have lots of opinions on this.

i suspect your section will be conspicuously under-represented on LR


There is only so much a professor like that can do at NU. A maxed-out curve at NU is:

This is why I prefer the grading system here. It is numbers based rather than grades based. The profs can only give between an 86.5-87.5 mean, and almost all give an 87.5 mean. Sure, some profs go crazy and give out a 100 and some high 90s while others make 95 or so the top grade, but you can't see these big differences in the average GPA of a class.


The lower bound example I gave is for a professor you maxed out the number of C-range grades. Professors are not required to give any C-range grades, and indeed most (including Holly's Civ Pro professor) will only do so for someone who didn't try on the exam. There are always a couple of those each year.

In practice professors will play with either maxing out A/A- range grades, or maxing out B/B- range grades. That yields a range somewhere between 3.25 and 3.35. This doesn't hurt median students much, but really helps good students because the curve mandates a certain number of A+/A grades. Having some professors give out 100s and others 95s can really bone you if you're shooting for law review.

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Re: 1L grade waiting thread

Postby Bustang » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:25 pm

existenz wrote:
Bustang wrote:My K prof hasn't given an "A" in over 10 years. He gives out 4-5 A-'s per class (35 kids).

maybe that could fly at a TTTT, but even then you'd expect a few A students once in a while


He's a very non-traditional professor (entrepreneur, very very successful, etc) and he's on tenure. The rest of the professors are sane. He believes in "justice" when grading- He doesn't give any C's, rather he just gives B-'s, A LOT of B's, some B+'s, and 4 A-'s. It sucks but I see where he is coming from (one C can destroy a person's chance at pretty much anything).

Oh well, I'm happy with my grades.




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