1L grade waiting thread Forum

[Baylan]

Grade Watch 2011 is over at 47 days. Contracts posted (though not final, pending a grade bump)

The results:
3.36 on a 2.85 curve

A- Torts
C+ Crim
A Civ Pro
B+ Contracts

If I didn't screw up Crim... I would be in great shape :-/

Thats the depressing thing.

[romothesavior]

thats a fair scholarship stip...wow. what a relief.

There is no such thing as a fair scholarship stipulation.

[09042014]

thats a fair scholarship stip...wow. what a relief.

There is no such thing as a fair scholarship stipulation.

Good standing is fair IMO.

[Helmholtz]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

[CG614]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

The quote is a fallacy. Most law students did not attend Princeton Undergrad and are not currently at Harvard Law School.

[Helmholtz]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

The quote is a fallacy. Most law students did not attend Princeton Undergrad and are not currently at Harvard Law School.

But.....but.....all of my friends here at Willamette Law are getting B's and we can still end up as a SCOTUS justice, right?

[09042014]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

The quote is a fallacy. Most law students did not attend Princeton Undergrad and are not currently at Harvard Law School.

Who cares about Princeton, she probably got 1st semester pwnd by SEC grads.

That she turned it around and pwnd laws school after that means those firm semester grades mean nothing.

[California Babe]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

The quote is a fallacy. Most law students did not attend Princeton Undergrad and are not currently at Harvard Law School.

But.....but.....all of my friends here at Willamette Law are getting B's and we can still end up as a SCOTUS justice, right?

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

[CG614]

"Most law students have more in common with Elena Kagan than they thought: she had crappy grades first semester too. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elena Kagan received a few B's as a 1L. She went on to be a straight A student and make law review, but her grades weren't at all impressive that first semester.

She received a B- in Torts, a B in Criminal and a B+ in Administrative law."

Not impressive by any means, but with grade inflation, she was probably in a lot better position on the curve than the 1L's who attend respectable schools today would be with 3.0's.

The quote is a fallacy. Most law students did not attend Princeton Undergrad and are not currently at Harvard Law School.

Who cares about Princeton, she probably got 1st semester pwnd by SEC grads.

That she turned it around and pwnd laws school after that means those firm semester grades mean nothing.

Undergrad still matters in the court of public opinion. Justices went to: Georgetown, Cornell, Stanford x 2, Harvard, Princeton x3. Just saying that the above quote doesn't mean a thing to MOST law students.

[CG614]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

Agreed, but my point is that even with good grades after the first semester, your law school and other factors play a big role too. AND she had straight As afterward. So, the real point is that there is no point to take from that quote. It is pointless. (pun intended).

[California Babe]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

Agreed, but my point is that even with good grades after the first semester, your law school and other factors play a big role too. AND she had straight As afterward. So, the real point is that there is no point to take from that quote. It is pointless. (pun intended).

That's silly. If you go to a law school where you have no hope of ever making it onto the Supreme Court, making straight A's after your first semester and getting on Law Review is still going to help you find a good job in your market.

In fact, knowing that it is possible to turn your trajectory around after your first semester is arguably a more beneficial thing to know if you are attending a less elite law school, because if you can't turn things around you're probably not getting a job at all.

[goosey]

our con law professor gave us kaegan's transcript the first day of the semester and it was encouraging..she went from straight B's/B- fall semester of 1L to straight A's for the remainder of law school.

[CG614]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

Agreed, but my point is that even with good grades after the first semester, your law school and other factors play a big role too. AND she had straight As afterward. So, the real point is that there is no point to take from that quote. It is pointless. (pun intended).

That's silly. If you go to a law school where you have no hope of ever making it onto the Supreme Court, making straight A's after your first semester and getting on Law Review is still going to help you find a good job in your market.

In fact, knowing that it is possible to turn your trajectory around after your first semester is arguably a more beneficial thing to know if you are attending a less elite law school, because if you can't turn things around you're probably not getting a job at all.

OK, I can't argue with a Babe. Agreed, it is possible to turn around your grades, but I just get annoyed at quotes like that. My bad. Like the "Bill Gates started his company out of his garage" type shit. ha

[NancyBotwin]

That is very encouraging. I mean, not in a "wait, I can still make SCOTUS" way, but more in a "I can do better and one bad semester does not mean I'm a failure" way.

[RVP11]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

But, of course, a bad first semester is predictive of the rest of your law school career.

To suggest otherwise would be to say that first semester grades are random.

[California Babe]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

But, of course, a bad first semester is predictive of the rest of your law school career.

To suggest otherwise would be to say that first semester grades are random.

[RVP11]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

But, of course, a bad first semester is predictive of the rest of your law school career.

To suggest otherwise would be to say that first semester grades are random.

Is your username fo serious?

[TTH]

So, there's been rumors flying about as to which day this week grades will be dropping. I called my school's registrar to get confirmation so that I don't have to start wondering about it as soon as the first rumored day arrives. They told me a mass e-mail would be going out to detail when grades were coming out.

Of course, they wouldn't tell me when the e-mail was going out either.

[crm]

So, there's been rumors flying about as to which day this week grades will be dropping. I called my school's registrar to get confirmation so that I don't have to start wondering about it as soon as the first rumored day arrives. They told me a mass e-mail would be going out to detail when grades were coming out.

Of course, they wouldn't tell me when the e-mail was going out either.

Thur. 11 a.m.

[TTH]

So, there's been rumors flying about as to which day this week grades will be dropping. I called my school's registrar to get confirmation so that I don't have to start wondering about it as soon as the first rumored day arrives. They told me a mass e-mail would be going out to detail when grades were coming out.

Of course, they wouldn't tell me when the e-mail was going out either.

Thur. 11 a.m.

Gunner.

[existenz]

But, of course, a bad first semester is predictive of the rest of your law school career.

To suggest otherwise would be to say that first semester grades are random.

[D. H2Oman]

Meh. The point to take away from it isn't that you can become a SCOTUS justice with bad grades, but that a bad first semester isn't indicative of the rest of your law school career.

But, of course, a bad first semester is predictive of the rest of your law school career.

To suggest otherwise would be to say that first semester grades are random.

lol


marry me

[Sogui]

The point of the quote I provided was to prove:

1) Elite law figures "know what it's like" to get B's, against an earlier poster's claim to the otherwise

2) Weak 1L grades do not condemn you to any fate

It seems like people are trying take far too much out of an innocent inspirational story.

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

Hey everybody!

indicative =/= perfectly predictive.

hth.

[D. H2Oman]

The point of the quote I provided was to prove:

1) Elite law figures "know what it's like" to get B's, against an earlier poster's claim to the otherwise

2) Weak 1L grades do not condemn you to any fate

It seems like people are trying take far too much out of an innocent inspirational story.

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