How does everyone feel after their first exam?

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby Cherith Cutestory » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:54 pm

The funny thing is the following formula has always worked for me:

If you think you did bad = You did ok, solid B.
If you think you did ok (B range) = You rocked it and are likely getting an A/A-.
If you think you absolutely rocked it = Get ready for your C+/B- below-median status.


Man, I hope this is correct because I walked out of Civ Pro and all I could think of was the 40 degree day scene from The Wire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttbQTz8tAE

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby PirateCap'n » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:27 pm

I feel like I bombed both my crim. law essays and multiple choice, and I feel sick to my stomach because I forgot to make sure that all my circles were bubbled in correctly on the Scantron. Seriously hoping I didn't "mis-bubble."

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby sundevil77 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:45 pm

I feel rather pissed off about my exam experience for two reasons:

(1) A ridiculous, draconian 2500 word limit for a 3-hour torts exam. I feel like I wrote intelligently and concisely about all relevant (not tangential crap) in the first hour long issue spotter. Come to find out I was already at 1400 words :( . Needless to say, I tried to write even more concisely for the rest of the exam. With about 20 minutes left I had to go back and cut out over 400 words to get my exam back within the word limit. Even then, I still knew there were other relevant issues that were going to be left out. You'd think a professor in his first semester would err on the side of not having an unduly restrictive word limit. Whatever.

(2) He tested on issues that we barely covered in class, while leaving out issues that he spent the most time on. We literally had nothing on factual cause, proximate cause, and nonfeasance/special duties. Nada. We spent weeks on that stuff. I feel betrayed.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby dakatz » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:44 pm

Wow, that was exhilarating. Fastest 4 hrs of my life. Our civ pro exam had 5 questions with varying pt values (40, 30, 10, 10, 10). Luckily, the 40 and 30 were in the areas I felt the most comfortable with. Among the 10's, I feel like I nailed one, did ok on another, but the final 10 I wasn't really comfortable with. I think it had to do with not understanding completely how to analyze the issue. I mean, I knew what the general idea is, but not how to fit the facts into the mold I knew. So my application in that last one may be pretty poor, but hopefully I don't lose too many points there.

Darted right out of the room when it ended. My friends and I all agreed not to talk about it, and were keeping that promise. Hoping that I did enough with the 40 and 30 and my real solid 10 to bring me well up above the median. Though I don't foresee any A's in my near future.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby kasparov » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:49 pm

sundevil77 wrote:I feel rather pissed off about my exam experience for two reasons:

(1) A ridiculous, draconian 2500 word limit for a 3-hour torts exam. I feel like I wrote intelligently and concisely about all relevant (not tangential crap) in the first hour long issue spotter. Come to find out I was already at 1400 words :( . Needless to say, I tried to write even more concisely for the rest of the exam. With about 20 minutes left I had to go back and cut out over 400 words to get my exam back within the word limit. Even then, I still knew there were other relevant issues that were going to be left out. You'd think a professor in his first semester would err on the side of not having an unduly restrictive word limit. Whatever.

(2) He tested on issues that we barely covered in class, while leaving out issues that he spent the most time on. We literally had nothing on factual cause, proximate cause, and nonfeasance/special duties. Nada. We spent weeks on that stuff. I feel betrayed.


I have torts tomorrow. Can't say what the word limit will be, but past exams have been 1,750 for a four hour exam. Closed book.
At what point does it just get impossible to really hit everything not because of time but because my prof doesn't want a bunch of 20 page papers?

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby dakatz » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:51 pm

kasparov wrote:
sundevil77 wrote:I feel rather pissed off about my exam experience for two reasons:

(1) A ridiculous, draconian 2500 word limit for a 3-hour torts exam. I feel like I wrote intelligently and concisely about all relevant (not tangential crap) in the first hour long issue spotter. Come to find out I was already at 1400 words :( . Needless to say, I tried to write even more concisely for the rest of the exam. With about 20 minutes left I had to go back and cut out over 400 words to get my exam back within the word limit. Even then, I still knew there were other relevant issues that were going to be left out. You'd think a professor in his first semester would err on the side of not having an unduly restrictive word limit. Whatever.

(2) He tested on issues that we barely covered in class, while leaving out issues that he spent the most time on. We literally had nothing on factual cause, proximate cause, and nonfeasance/special duties. Nada. We spent weeks on that stuff. I feel betrayed.


I have torts tomorrow. Can't say what the word limit will be, but past exams have been 1,750 for a four hour exam. Closed book.
At what point does it just get impossible to really hit everything not because of time but because my prof doesn't want a bunch of 20 page papers?


1750 words? I just finished a 4 hr exam and had over 6000 words. Can't say I'm very word-economical. My next exam is 10 questions each with a 100 word limit and no time pressure (4 hrs for an exam that he swore will take about 2) So I'd better learn fast.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby rejectmaster » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:36 pm

i have no idea how i did.. i wrote about 1300 words on a 1hr mult choice/ 2hr essay exam

hopefully that's enough.. i didn't say all i wanted to say.. maybe should have spread my argument more

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby moandersen » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:43 pm

PirateCap'n wrote:I feel like I bombed both my crim. law essays and multiple choice, and I feel sick to my stomach because I forgot to make sure that all my circles were bubbled in correctly on the Scantron. Seriously hoping I didn't "mis-bubble."


sucks, sorry man. I left feeling somewhat confident about both essays (but knowing I missed a policy or two). I literally have no idea how I did on the multiple choice/true or false section as those questions turned on the most minute detail and im sure i missed a couple of them. My gut tells me B+, but if the above statements are true, then i should be expecting a B- when I get the grade.

on to contracts! :|

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby PirateCap'n » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:47 pm

moandersen wrote:
PirateCap'n wrote:I feel like I bombed both my crim. law essays and multiple choice, and I feel sick to my stomach because I forgot to make sure that all my circles were bubbled in correctly on the Scantron. Seriously hoping I didn't "mis-bubble."


sucks, sorry man. I left feeling somewhat confident about both essays (but knowing I missed a policy or two). I literally have no idea how I did on the multiple choice/true or false section as those questions turned on the most minute detail and im sure i missed a couple of them. My gut tells me B+, but if the above statements are true, then i should be expecting a B- when I get the grade.

on to contracts! :|


Yeah. It happens. Not actually that worried about it (or at least I've convinced myself of that). The multiple choice questions were ridiculous though. At this point, I would be pretty happy with a B and thrilled with anything above that. Like you said, on to contracts (which, unlike crim, I am woefully unprepared for).

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby anonis » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:50 pm

I just found out I got an answer to an essay question completely wrong. It was about 1/6th of my grade, am I completely screwed? :(

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby PirateCap'n » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:54 pm

anonis wrote:I just found out I got an answer to an essay question completely wrong. It was about 1/6th of my grade, am I completely screwed? :(


Nope. That's what curves are for.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby rejectmaster » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:57 pm

PirateCap'n wrote:
anonis wrote:I just found out I got an answer to an essay question completely wrong. It was about 1/6th of my grade, am I completely screwed? :(


Nope. That's what curves are for.


its so hard getting used to curves

in my UG major everyone got curved up.. ie not on any consistent distribution because exam grades would consistently average in the 50s and 60s

it is just tough to reconcile with the fact that it is probably impossible to get a 100% on a law school exam and there's no consistent quantification of what amount of stuff you had to address/multiple choice score to earn a certain grade.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby keg411 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:23 pm

Exhausted. Absolutely no idea how I did. Also the first half was in-class multiple choice and half the class was talking afterward. I pretty much put my fingers in my ears and booked it as quickly as possible. Neither the MC nor the issue spotter were bad, and I think I did my best, but I'm not sure if my best was good enough. Oh well.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby kalvano » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:40 pm

You know how everyone says you can't really fail?

You better be right.

Fuck you, Property.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby solotee » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:02 pm

I feel like shit after my torts exam. I literally do not know what the hell I typed.

The day before that exam, I noted two areas in my outline where it would be evil for the professor to test us on. My predictions came true.

After the exam, everyone's face was blank. Most people I talked to said they were either depressed or felt like they got raped. Downed 3 beers, and did nothing for the rest of the day.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby prezidentv8 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:02 pm

Usually you feel abused, disoriented, and without a memory of what just transpired.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby SmittenMitten » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:07 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:Usually you feel abused, disoriented, and without a memory of what just transpired.


I just replay the question in my head and wonder what I wrote or if maybe I read it wrong. Then I weep.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby prezidentv8 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:09 pm

SmittenMitten wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:Usually you feel abused, disoriented, and without a memory of what just transpired.


I just replay the question in my head and wonder what I wrote or if maybe I read it wrong. Then I weep.


Last year I actually didn't even see one of the questions I had to answer, because there were about 7 of them buried in 10 pages of fact pattern. That particular test went...poorly.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby keg411 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:10 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:Usually you feel abused, disoriented, and without a memory of what just transpired.


That's a pretty good description.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby solotee » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:21 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:Usually you feel abused, disoriented, and without a memory of what just transpired.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby irish017 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:29 pm

No clue. I worked hard. What more could I do in prep? Breathing a bit today, hitting the sack, the on to the next one tommorrow.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby onthecusp » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:00 pm

So I'm walking out of my torts final to hear somebody ask someone else, "So did you catch the Trespass to Chattel involving the liver?" LULZ! I don't know why I found that so hilarious, nobody else thought it was that funny. He was joking around and the guy he asked had this look of horror on his face.

But I feel like I did well, and will try not to speculate on it. I'm trying to rev myself up to do Civ Pro.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby Eco » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:06 pm

I think I did great, but we'll see. I felt that way about one exam (midterm) and got top 5%, so let's see how this one goes.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby onthecusp » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:08 pm

sundevil77 wrote:I feel rather pissed off about my exam experience for two reasons:

(1) A ridiculous, draconian 2500 word limit for a 3-hour torts exam. I feel like I wrote intelligently and concisely about all relevant (not tangential crap) in the first hour long issue spotter. Come to find out I was already at 1400 words :( . Needless to say, I tried to write even more concisely for the rest of the exam. With about 20 minutes left I had to go back and cut out over 400 words to get my exam back within the word limit. Even then, I still knew there were other relevant issues that were going to be left out. You'd think a professor in his first semester would err on the side of not having an unduly restrictive word limit. Whatever.

(2) He tested on issues that we barely covered in class, while leaving out issues that he spent the most time on. We literally had nothing on factual cause, proximate cause, and nonfeasance/special duties. Nada. We spent weeks on that stuff. I feel betrayed.


We have a 1750 word limit for our 3 hour property exam....not looking forward to it.

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Re: How does everyone feel after their first exam?

Postby kasparov » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:34 pm

onthecusp wrote:
sundevil77 wrote:I feel rather pissed off about my exam experience for two reasons:

(1) A ridiculous, draconian 2500 word limit for a 3-hour torts exam. I feel like I wrote intelligently and concisely about all relevant (not tangential crap) in the first hour long issue spotter. Come to find out I was already at 1400 words :( . Needless to say, I tried to write even more concisely for the rest of the exam. With about 20 minutes left I had to go back and cut out over 400 words to get my exam back within the word limit. Even then, I still knew there were other relevant issues that were going to be left out. You'd think a professor in his first semester would err on the side of not having an unduly restrictive word limit. Whatever.

(2) He tested on issues that we barely covered in class, while leaving out issues that he spent the most time on. We literally had nothing on factual cause, proximate cause, and nonfeasance/special duties. Nada. We spent weeks on that stuff. I feel betrayed.


We have a 1750 word limit for our 3 hour property exam....not looking forward to it.


same for torts, 1750 words / four hours. how the hell do you distinguish yourself with such few opportunities? everyone is going to see the big stuff, and you can't waste time or space on creative/novel sub issues.




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