Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

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Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby electricfeel » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:01 pm

My school recently just added Legislation and Regulation as part of the 1L curriculum. Apparently, its modeled almost exactly like Harvard's 1L class. Would any one be kind enough to point me in the right direction towards any practice exams or old outlines in this class? There is absolutely nothing regarding this course at my school since its the first year its being taught. Anything would be appreciated!

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:56 am

Come on, Harvard people! You know you want to help us!

Please?

Seriously, we have nothing; it's terrible.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:07 am

bump for I'll take anything you'll give me? outline, checklist, old exam, answer key...

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby creatinganalt » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:08 pm

It may not help because even within Harvard the course is taught differently from class to class. Exams are totally different.

Basically it's
- statutory interpretation
- some basic admin law

when my outline is complete (god help me) will send over with a syllabus etc

Definitely buy the Werhan Principles of Admin Law hornbook.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:30 pm

Would that be similar to the Administrative and Regulatory State at NYU? It's a mandatory 1L class here too (but in Spring, so you'd need the help of a 2L).

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby DoubleChecks » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:34 pm

Yeah I think it may vary a lot from prof to prof...since it covers a lot w/o having to adhere to a very rigid structure. I've found outlines online for all my classes cept my legreg one lol, though I think there are 2 old exams floating around for my specific professor. I'll check.

Don't worry though! Legreg is surprisingly fun imo haha.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:32 pm

I would appreciate anything! I fear this exam so much because I have no idea what to expect from it. It seems like the professor could ask us anything. I'd like to think I take good notes, but without an exam to practice with, it is hard to tell what good they'll do me. If anyone has anything to send, my email is kcg171@gmail.


sorry for the freaking out :oops:

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Postby DoubleChecks » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:19 pm

kcg171 wrote:I would appreciate anything! I fear this exam so much because I have no idea what to expect from it. It seems like the professor could ask us anything. I'd like to think I take good notes, but without an exam to practice with, it is hard to tell what good they'll do me. If anyone has anything to send, my email is kcg171@gmail.


sorry for the freaking out :oops:


wait, so this is an exam you have in a week or 2? not a new class being taught next semester?

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:28 pm

yes :-/
3 weeks

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby joobacca » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:04 pm

is this the chevron doctrine class?

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:10 pm

haha. yes.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby joobacca » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:12 pm

kcg171 wrote:haha. yes.

is it graded or fail/pass/honors?
i honestly think you just need to know the chevron doctrine...

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Postby joobacca » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:15 pm

Also, check your PM.

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Postby DoubleChecks » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:26 pm

joobacca wrote:
kcg171 wrote:haha. yes.

is it graded or fail/pass/honors?
i honestly think you just need to know the chevron doctrine...


haha there must be a lot of variability

my legreg class just got to the chevron doctrine, and after spending 1 class on it, we're moving on lol

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:16 pm

we spent half the class on statutory interpretation and half the class on chevron. I'm pretty sure there is nothing that can help me, but taking a practice test would calm me, even if deep down I know there is a good chance the exam I get will be totally different.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby Grizz » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:29 pm

We have Regulatory State. $5 says you need to know Chevron, Chevron Step 0, and "Arbitrary and Capricious." Did you guys do canons of construction or whatever?

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby kcg171 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:01 pm

yeah, we did the canons

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby Grizz » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:49 pm

kcg171 wrote:yeah, we did the canons


I'd go over those too. That kind of stuff is very much testable, like in a question:

use canons to see if a statute is ambiguous -> apply Chevron step 0 -> apply Chevron

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby the lantern » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:10 pm

Any tips would be appreciated. My school is doing Legislation and Regulation for the first time ever as well. We have been given 1 practice question and we will not be given any more. The course was so broad that pretty much every student I have talked to has very little idea what we will be on the exam. We will certain talk about Chevron, State Farm, and statutory interpretation, but we only spent maybe a third of the class on those ideas. Throughout the rest of the course, I really had trouble figuring out what was important. It seems like most of the reading assignments had little or nothing to take away.

I'm still working on my outline, but we have no practice exams to go through, no hornbooks that I know of (although the professor has left a handful of books that don't seem that useful on reserve in the library), and it is pretty much the only class I am worried about.

If anyone has any practice questions (or places to find them) or hornbook recommendations (I think someone posted one above), please share.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby smittytron3k » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:33 am

ok i have no clue whether it is kosher for me to post practice exams so i won't, but pm me privately and i would be happy to respond with whatever i can give you.

-hls 1L

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby clint4law » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:25 am

I'm in the same boat as OP. Please help. I have no idea what to expect. Any type of sample exam would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby the lantern » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm

wow someone bumped a thread from my 1L year haha :)

I don't have these exams any more or I'd share.

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Re: Legislation/Regulation - Helpful Harvard students out there?

Postby clint4law » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:31 pm

yea...im desperate




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