1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby stayway » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:09 pm

Always Credited wrote:
mbusch22 wrote:
traehekat wrote:it really is amazing how law school breaks people down. even after doing well and knowing you are doing the right things, law school still makes you feel like you are barely hanging on.


+1 on this. And Con Law makes me feel helpless for some reason, which is a miserable feeling.


The key to law school is confidence.

Confidence in your study method.
Confidence in your knowledge/application of the law on exams.
Confidence in speaking at moot court/mock trial/anything else.

I think its less that law school breaks people down, and more that law school (similar to most situations of intense stress/physical. mental exhaustion) shows people for who they truly are.

Those who aren't confident in themselves and their own abilities feel the greatest pressure at this time; if that's you, simply recognizing that part of your character and understanding it isn't your knowledge that is lacking but rather just your confidence in that knowledge will go a long way in preparing you not only for the exams now, but also (and more importantly) for the rest of the defining moments you'll face in life.



Good stuff. I've always considered myself an alpha male but law school definitely made me realize I'm not as smart as I thought I was. It's also testing my limits. And to be frank, I'm beginning to enjoy it a little.....

The pressure is always going to be there especially 1L year since everything (debt) rides on the grades.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby mbusch22 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:23 pm

kalvano wrote:
mbusch22 wrote:
traehekat wrote:it really is amazing how law school breaks people down. even after doing well and knowing you are doing the right things, law school still makes you feel like you are barely hanging on.


+1 on this. And Con Law makes me feel helpless for some reason, which is a miserable feeling.



Did you see the two outlines I posted? One is directly for Eads, and AWESOME.


Yeah, I did actually. Thanks for posting, that Eads one is really useful and really well-organized, especially for getting down to exactly what each case says.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Pretzel_Logic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:46 pm

Well, all my outlines are started...and even though my head is back in the game now, my body is not cooperating at all this week. For the lose. Ugh, I can't wait to feel better so my eyes can stay awake as long as my brain wants to...

Yeah, I actually like law school, but good lord. It sneaks up on you with suckitude this time of year.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby romothesavior » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:49 pm

I am curious why people find Erie doctrine to be so difficult. Glannon seems to break down the Hanna two-part test pretty well and gives you the four ways a state law may conflict with a federal law or rule. It seems like a decent framework of analysis for the exam.

I ask because I am terrible at civ pro. This makes me think I'm missing something, especially since I've heard some of the smartest people on TLS complain about it.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Grizz » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:39 am

romothesavior wrote:I am curious why people find Erie doctrine to be so difficult. Glannon seems to break down the Hanna two-part test pretty well and gives you the four ways a state law may conflict with a federal law or rule. It seems like a decent framework of analysis for the exam.

I ask because I am terrible at civ pro. This makes me think I'm missing something, especially since I've heard some of the smartest people on TLS complain about it.


Mine broke it down in a way that's pretty easy but we didn't talk about Gasperini and some of the other cases that piss of other people around here.

In other news, I took up a nap and woke up at 10:30. Oops. I went to Starbucks and was in no condition to get my flirt on with the cute girl behind the counter.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Thirteen » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:45 am

kalvano wrote:
mbusch22 wrote:
traehekat wrote:it really is amazing how law school breaks people down. even after doing well and knowing you are doing the right things, law school still makes you feel like you are barely hanging on.


+1 on this. And Con Law makes me feel helpless for some reason, which is a miserable feeling.



Did you see the two outlines I posted? One is directly for Eads, and AWESOME.


Where did you post the outlines? In this thread?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby kalvano » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:49 am

Thirteen wrote:
kalvano wrote:
mbusch22 wrote:
traehekat wrote:it really is amazing how law school breaks people down. even after doing well and knowing you are doing the right things, law school still makes you feel like you are barely hanging on.


+1 on this. And Con Law makes me feel helpless for some reason, which is a miserable feeling.



Did you see the two outlines I posted? One is directly for Eads, and AWESOME.


Where did you post the outlines? In this thread?



I cleverly disguised it with a title that would make you think of anything other than Con Law...


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=152319

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Eco » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:29 am

Erie is not hard. You need to diagram it and it honestly becomes pretty simple, at least for the purposes of an exam (probably harder to apply in RL).

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby goosey » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am

two weeks till my conlaw final, 3 till K's and 3.5 till property. I think I am going to spontaniously combust. I am so behind. This is the total opposite of last semester and either I will be amazed at my grades and never work myself to the bone again, or I will curl up in fetal position and cry all summer.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby beach_terror » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:52 am

Later TLS, mods banning me by request until May 10th. Good luck all!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby BeenDidThat » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:55 am

Always Credited wrote:
mbusch22 wrote:
traehekat wrote:it really is amazing how law school breaks people down. even after doing well and knowing you are doing the right things, law school still makes you feel like you are barely hanging on.


+1 on this. And Con Law makes me feel helpless for some reason, which is a miserable feeling.


The key to law school is confidence.

Confidence in your study method.
Confidence in your knowledge/application of the law on exams.
Confidence in speaking at moot court/mock trial/anything else.

I think its less that law school breaks people down, and more that law school (similar to most situations of intense stress/physical. mental exhaustion) shows people for who they truly are.

Those who aren't confident in themselves and their own abilities feel the greatest pressure at this time; if that's you, simply recognizing that part of your character and understanding it isn't your knowledge that is lacking but rather just your confidence in that knowledge will go a long way in preparing you not only for the exams now, but also (and more importantly) for the rest of the defining moments you'll face in life.


+1

Law school's just a psych test to see who has some steel in their spine.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Baylan » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:11 pm

my brain hurts. 12 days til first exam, 21 days til last exam.

no desire to study, no desire to work, feel entirely unprepared as of right now.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Grizz » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:57 pm

Baylan wrote:my brain hurts. 12 days til first exam, 21 days til last exam.

no desire to study, no desire to work, feel entirely unprepared as of right now.


I feel the exact same way. Just made some flowcharts for Civ. Pro. to bring out my creative side and let me feel productive.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby kalvano » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:25 pm

Less than two weeks before first exam. Going to the movies. Fuck it.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby gwuorbust » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:37 pm

seems that everyone is turning indifferent. is nobody READY TO GUN?!

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby snowpeach06 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:49 pm

Mean to do a big chunk of con law. Instead went to the 1L games and watched my section lose. Tomorrow... will also probably be unproductive despite my best efforts. The trivia portion made me realize i know nothing. 1/30 questions right.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Lawquacious » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:49 pm

I'm so burnt out... Need to keeeeeep goooooinggggg (1 more month)......

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Lawquacious » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:53 pm

romothesavior wrote:I am curious why people find Erie doctrine to be so difficult. Glannon seems to break down the Hanna two-part test pretty well and gives you the four ways a state law may conflict with a federal law or rule. It seems like a decent framework of analysis for the exam.

I ask because I am terrible at civ pro. This makes me think I'm missing something, especially since I've heard some of the smartest people on TLS complain about it.


If anything I think it's because it hasn't been consistently applied in subsequent cases; there were basically a whole bunch of splinters that came from following cases about what is actually substantive v. procedural for the purposes of the doctrine. I took Civ. Pro. last semester though so I'm not fresh with it and might be totally confused. I think that may be a reasonably accurate answer though...

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:53 pm

kalvano wrote:Fuck it.


This seems to be the prevailing feeling among most here.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Always Credited » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:19 pm

You guys are crazy...flowcharting and shit with two weeks before final 1? I have my first in a week and my last in two weeks, and I've finally just locked down a little bit, haha.

But maybe I won't be laughing after I drop to bottom half of the class this semester, and am summarily unemployable for life.

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby snowpeach06 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:52 pm

If anyone is stressed right now this picture of a kangaroo in a suit should calm you down.
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/03 ... 36x906.jpg

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Grizz » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:12 am

Always Credited wrote:You guys are crazy...flowcharting and shit with two weeks before final 1? I have my first in a week and my last in two weeks, and I've finally just locked down a little bit, haha.

But maybe I won't be laughing after I drop to bottom half of the class this semester, and am summarily unemployable for life.


I fucking love flowcharts

I made flowcharts for
- general jx
- specific jx
- summary judgment standard
- erie
- res judicata (in progress)

Anything else particularly amenable to flowchart?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Always Credited » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:31 am

rad law wrote:
Always Credited wrote:You guys are crazy...flowcharting and shit with two weeks before final 1? I have my first in a week and my last in two weeks, and I've finally just locked down a little bit, haha.

But maybe I won't be laughing after I drop to bottom half of the class this semester, and am summarily unemployable for life.


I fucking love flowcharts

I made flowcharts for
- general jx
- specific jx
- summary judgment standard
- erie
- res judicata (in progress)

Anything else particularly amenable to flowchart?


CivPro-Jurisdiction is just about the best flowcharting a flowchart lover could possibly flowchart

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Always Credited » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:38 am

Also, I have a weird compulsion with cutting my outlines down to be shorter and shorter...is this bad?

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Re: 1L Exam Prep and Motivation Thread (ROUND 2 SUCKAS)

Postby Grizz » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:16 am

Always Credited wrote:Also, I have a weird compulsion with cutting my outlines down to be shorter and shorter...is this bad?


If it's easier to use on the exam and the info you cut is truly extraneous, then no.




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