yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
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Woah, 8? Pretty sure our reading room closes at at 2 AM every night.swc65 wrote:los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
So is Law and Econ- and the library closed at 8 tonight!! WTF Ive never been there on a Saturday so was totally surprise.
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Completely agree. Same thing happening with me. This was our professor's first time teaching crim and it was disorganized as hell. Then again - curve.traehekat wrote:yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
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Make Tables; one column for MPC, one for CL.traehekat wrote:yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
It's death to put together, but I think (hope) it will work.
Speaking of death, am outlining ConLaw (if outlining means copying/re-organizing old outlines from my prof, which for me it does ).
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Con law is just so disorganized cause the topics range from impeachment to the dormant commerce clause. there is limited logical connection between everything.keg411 wrote:
Speaking of death, am outlining ConLaw (if outlining means copying/re-organizing old outlines from my prof, which for me it does ).
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haha here is a word-for-word electronic "sticky note" i made a few weeks ago:keg411 wrote:Make Tables; one column for MPC, one for CL.traehekat wrote:yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
It's death to put together, but I think (hope) it will work.
Speaking of death, am outlining ConLaw (if outlining means copying/re-organizing old outlines from my prof, which for me it does ).
haven't done it, but i'm liken that we're thinking the same thing lol.consider making chart for crim with common law/mpc forks
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Yeah, I'm getting annoyed with my con law outline. So whenever something is taking me too long to figure out, I just bold it and move on. So, I'll think I'm done, but really have a few hours of going back and actually doing giant sections. Or organizing them.
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I already organized the thing starting a few weeks ago (because if you take a step back it's not that hard), it's just the tedium of putting all the cases and doctrinal information in. In an ideal world, I finish both ConLaw and Property by tomorrow, but I dunno if that will end up happening.
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My ConLaw exam is closed book/note. We have covered a ton of information and 95+ cases. I feel like I understand the concepts and would ace the exam if I was allowed to have an outline but I don't know how to even begin memorizing all that I need to memorize. Does anyone have any tips or materials to share that could help me study for a closed ConLaw exam?
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I can send anyone my Crim MPC/COL charts (and outline if you need it). I did well in Crim so maybe it will be of some help, PM me.
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this is relevant to my interestsjbarl1 wrote:My ConLaw exam is closed book/note. We have covered a ton of information and 95+ cases. I feel like I understand the concepts and would ace the exam if I was allowed to have an outline but I don't know how to even begin memorizing all that I need to memorize. Does anyone have any tips or materials to share that could help me study for a closed ConLaw exam?
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Property exam is closed book/note. Last exam. Shorted time period between two exams this semester. There is a special place in hell for Betty (she's the registrar and schedules this shit).
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My Con Law I exam was also closed book. If you'd like my conlaw attack sheet (which breaks things down into helpful mnemonics), PM me and I'll email it to you.
What I did was I made a load of flash cards to quiz myself about various concepts and cases that I thought might be important -- you probably don't have enough time to do that now, though, I'd imagine.
I think one of the most helpful things to do is to make sure to group everything together in your brain by subject:
I. Congressional Power
Commerce Clause + Limitations
Taxing & Spending + Limitations
Section 5 Powers + Limitations
Preemption
Privileges & Immunities
Dormant Commerce Clause
II. Executive Power
Nondelegation Doctrine
Appointment & Removals
Foreign Affairs
War and Military Action
Executive Privileges & Immunities
III. Judicial Power
Judicial Review and its Limitations (standing, PQ doctrine, prohibition on advisory opinions, etc)
IV. State Action
General Rule
Exceptions -- Entanglement/Public Function
Once you have it all in your head that way, it's a lot easier to call up the information as needed.
What I did was I made a load of flash cards to quiz myself about various concepts and cases that I thought might be important -- you probably don't have enough time to do that now, though, I'd imagine.
I think one of the most helpful things to do is to make sure to group everything together in your brain by subject:
I. Congressional Power
Commerce Clause + Limitations
Taxing & Spending + Limitations
Section 5 Powers + Limitations
Preemption
Privileges & Immunities
Dormant Commerce Clause
II. Executive Power
Nondelegation Doctrine
Appointment & Removals
Foreign Affairs
War and Military Action
Executive Privileges & Immunities
III. Judicial Power
Judicial Review and its Limitations (standing, PQ doctrine, prohibition on advisory opinions, etc)
IV. State Action
General Rule
Exceptions -- Entanglement/Public Function
Once you have it all in your head that way, it's a lot easier to call up the information as needed.
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My exam is a bit more than two weeks away, which is plenty of time for flash cards for me. I was planning on making a bunch in addition to the ones I am already using for general things (like parts of the Constitution). Your breakdown looks helpful so thanks! I PM'd you for your attack outline, thanks for offering it.Paichka wrote:My Con Law I exam was also closed book. If you'd like my conlaw attack sheet (which breaks things down into helpful mnemonics), PM me and I'll email it to you.
What I did was I made a load of flash cards to quiz myself about various concepts and cases that I thought might be important -- you probably don't have enough time to do that now, though, I'd imagine.
I think one of the most helpful things to do is to make sure to group everything together in your brain by subject:
I. Congressional Power
Commerce Clause + Limitations
Taxing & Spending + Limitations
Section 5 Powers + Limitations
Preemption
Privileges & Immunities
Dormant Commerce Clause
II. Executive Power
Nondelegation Doctrine
Appointment & Removals
Foreign Affairs
War and Military Action
Executive Privileges & Immunities
III. Judicial Power
Judicial Review and its Limitations (standing, PQ doctrine, prohibition on advisory opinions, etc)
IV. State Action
General Rule
Exceptions -- Entanglement/Public Function
Once you have it all in your head that way, it's a lot easier to call up the information as needed.
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Splitting a bottle of wine (over a few hours of course) makes writing this appellate brief so much better.
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Dunno if we did anything based on the common law once... All of his hypos were centered around the MPC and occasional state/federal statutes.traehekat wrote:yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
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I dunno if this works for everyone or if its feasible (dunno how long your outline is), but try writing out your entire outline. Once I write something down on paper it becomes really easy to remember.jbarl1 wrote:My ConLaw exam is closed book/note. We have covered a ton of information and 95+ cases. I feel like I understand the concepts and would ace the exam if I was allowed to have an outline but I don't know how to even begin memorizing all that I need to memorize. Does anyone have any tips or materials to share that could help me study for a closed ConLaw exam?
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You are lucky.los blancos wrote:Dunno if we did anything based on the common law once... All of his hypos were centered around the MPC and occasional state/federal statutes.traehekat wrote:yeah its weird. crim seems like the easiest stuff to understand during class and doing the reading, but somehow when i sat down to outline i started to get all confused, especially with our professor having a pretty even focus on both MPC and common law (hard to keep everything straight).los blancos wrote:Outlining Crim is like bashing head into brick wall
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Wow, that REALLY sucks. Good luck!Baylan wrote:Property exam is closed book/note.
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I think that 1367 and the preclusion doctrines were meticulously designed to be frustrating.
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core concepts are really simple. applying them, not so much. especially when you throw in the 1441(c) dilemma. at least 40% of my civ pro studying has been devoted to understanding supp. jurisdiction and removal under 1441(c). makes erie look like paint by numbers.YourCaptain wrote:I think that 1367 and the preclusion doctrines were meticulously designed to be frustrating.
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like RAP in property, i plan on barely studying/understanding supp. jurisdiction and praying it isn't heavily tested on the exam.pleasetryagain wrote:core concepts are really simple. applying them, not so much. especially when you throw in the 1441(c) dilemma. at least 40% of my civ pro studying has been devoted to understanding supp. jurisdiction and removal under 1441(c). makes erie look like paint by numbers.YourCaptain wrote:I think that 1367 and the preclusion doctrines were meticulously designed to be frustrating.
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I KNOW that it will be heavily tested on my exam. along with the CAFA class action joinder/aggregation stuff. I MUST understand it.traehekat wrote:like RAP in property, i plan on barely studying/understanding supp. jurisdiction and praying it isn't heavily tested on the exam.pleasetryagain wrote:core concepts are really simple. applying them, not so much. especially when you throw in the 1441(c) dilemma. at least 40% of my civ pro studying has been devoted to understanding supp. jurisdiction and removal under 1441(c). makes erie look like paint by numbers.YourCaptain wrote:I think that 1367 and the preclusion doctrines were meticulously designed to be frustrating.
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I sent the spreadsheet/outline to all those that PM'ed me, if anyone else is interested let me know.
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ty, very solid it looks like.BarbellDreams wrote:I sent the spreadsheet/outline to all those that PM'ed me, if anyone else is interested let me know.
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