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Postby snowpeach06 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:18 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
snowpeach06 wrote:Every fucking pizza place is closed in Cleveland on Sunday. Sunday is always when I want pizza. Well, this is just annoying.


Knowing Cleveland, this really doesn't surprise me, but seriously, why would pizza places be closed on Sundays? That's just absurd.

I just don't get it. Sunday is a pizza day. People get it to watch the games, they get it when they're hungover, they get it when their kids have friends over, or because they were out having fun all day and don't want to cook. People get pizza on Sundays. Therefore closing your pizza shop on Sunday means you lose out on a lot of business.

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Postby beach_terror » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:19 pm

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:con law. I hate you. I don't really understand *where* abortion doctrine is after the 4 cases we went over since Roe, and have no clue how to put it into a practical outline for the test.

This sounds like my contracts class. Awful book, even worse professor, and pretty unhelpful supplements.

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Postby MBZags » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:13 pm

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:con law. I hate you. I don't really understand *where* abortion doctrine is after the 4 cases we went over since Roe, and have no clue how to put it into a practical outline for the test.


We haven't gotten to abortion yet, but I also despise Con Law.

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Postby forty-two » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:27 pm

Just looked over my brief to prepare for oral arguments...and I found far too many typos. I don't understand why they all look so painfully obvious now but I didn't see them any them while editing my brief all those times before turning it in. :(

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Postby blerg » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:49 pm

I went to the library today, after only working at home during break. I almost had a panic attack thinking of all the shit that has to get done.

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Postby soaponarope » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:38 pm

MBZags wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:con law. I hate you. I don't really understand *where* abortion doctrine is after the 4 cases we went over since Roe, and have no clue how to put it into a practical outline for the test.


We haven't gotten to abortion yet, but I also despise Con Law.



#1. Buy Chemerinsky (sp?).

#2. Test for abortion is as follows: Prior to viability the State/Govt may not 1) pose an undue burden, or a 2) substantial obstacle for a woman to obtain an abortion. Such a right is presumed in the 5th/14th amendments, because it is considered a fundamental right... thus the Court strictly scrutinizes such legislation, i.e. when the state paces a law in regards to regulating abortion, they need to ensure that neither 1 nor 2 are violated. For example, a Cali law stated than a woman was to notify her husband prior to obtaining an abortion. Constitutional? No. The Court found that such a law would be a substantial obstacle in obtaining abortions because many husbands are abusive, or a woman may fear her husband/boyfriend/one night stand, would be abusive and present an impermissible obstacle for a woman to obtain an abortion. Side note: You can also analyze this as an equal protection issue.

However, you should know the Court used "undue burden" in defining the test because had they called for "strict scrutiny" some of the Justices (can't remember who) would not sign on and thwart the holding.

Hope this helped

edit: you should also know that the burden is on the government to prove they did not place either 1) undue burden, or 2) sub obstacle.

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Postby MBZags » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:53 pm

I have Chemerinsky. The problem is that my professor doesn't agree with him on some things and teaches other things in a completely different (and unclear) way.

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Postby Claudius » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:26 pm

snowpeach06 wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
snowpeach06 wrote:Every fucking pizza place is closed in Cleveland on Sunday. Sunday is always when I want pizza. Well, this is just annoying.


Knowing Cleveland, this really doesn't surprise me, but seriously, why would pizza places be closed on Sundays? That's just absurd.

I just don't get it. Sunday is a pizza day. People get it to watch the games, they get it when they're hungover, they get it when their kids have friends over, or because they were out having fun all day and don't want to cook. People get pizza on Sundays. Therefore closing your pizza shop on Sunday means you lose out on a lot of business.


Geraci's is open on Sunday and they're second only to Mama Santas, in my opinion. You should consider yourself lucky. We don't have anything nearly as good on the west side.

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Postby BarbellDreams » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:28 pm

blerg wrote:I went to the library today, after only working at home during break. I almost had a panic attack thinking of all the shit that has to get done.


This.

6 weeks left, outlines are horribly out of date and supplements have not been opened yet. Stupid brief + job search. Ridiculous.

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Postby goosey » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:57 pm

blerg wrote:I went to the library today, after only working at home during break. I almost had a panic attack thinking of all the shit that has to get done.


While I am notoriously one heartbeat away from a panic attack, I will still +1 this.

Its literally the last month of the semester. I am yet to do my first practice test.

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Postby keg411 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:26 pm

goosey wrote:
blerg wrote:I went to the library today, after only working at home during break. I almost had a panic attack thinking of all the shit that has to get done.


While I am notoriously one heartbeat away from a panic attack, I will still +1 this.

Its literally the last month of the semester. I am yet to do my first practice test.


Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.

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Postby goosey » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:48 pm

keg411 wrote:
Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.



yeah..this [and laziness, if I am honest] is primarily why I havent been doing anything significant yet. But our last day of classes is April 28th, so we are entering the final month of class this week--if I wait another few weeks, it will be the day of the exam pretty much haha.

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Postby mythosopher » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:49 pm

I have a question for other 1Ls about their faculty advisers. Do you use them? Do you meet with them ever? Mine was "supposed" to contact me last semester, but never did. I'd like to meet him, but I'm not positive how advising works in law school. I get the impression it's very different than how it was at my small college.

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Postby BarbellDreams » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:55 pm

I have met with mine twice. He doesn't seem like he really likes being an adviser so unless I have some really burning questions I don't bother anymore.

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Postby romothesavior » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:59 pm

keg411 wrote:
goosey wrote:Its literally the last month of the semester. I am yet to do my first practice test.

Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.

+1. Goosey, you would probably do a lot better in school if you just learned to breathe. If you are half as stressed IRL as you come off on TLS, then you are probably leading an incredibly unhealthy lifestyle. It just isn't good to put yourself through the mental and emotional gauntlet like this. Just relax, and take each day as it comes. You don't have to put yourself through months of hell in order to do well on law school exams.

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Postby stayway » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:29 pm

So yeah, Con Law takes forever to outline. I am still grateful to Prof. Chemerinsky.

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Postby keg411 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:41 pm

goosey wrote:
keg411 wrote:
Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.



yeah..this [and laziness, if I am honest] is primarily why I havent been doing anything significant yet. But our last day of classes is April 28th, so we are entering the final month of class this week--if I wait another few weeks, it will be the day of the exam pretty much haha.


We have our first EXAM on that day. Seriously, you have time. You can start outlining a bit, but I wouldn't touch PT's until maybe a week prior to reading days (if not later).

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Postby snowpeach06 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:00 pm

keg411 wrote:
goosey wrote:
keg411 wrote:
Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.



yeah..this [and laziness, if I am honest] is primarily why I havent been doing anything significant yet. But our last day of classes is April 28th, so we are entering the final month of class this week--if I wait another few weeks, it will be the day of the exam pretty much haha.


We have our first EXAM on that day. Seriously, you have time. You can start outlining a bit, but I wouldn't touch PT's until maybe a week prior to reading days (if not later).

Agreed. I mean, once your done outlining, there isn't much studying you can do anyway. Minus CALI lessons (which I would actually do while outlining, since they give a lot of nuances of the law). And, you wind up memorizing the outline just by doing sample exam questions. So, I don't see the benefit to doing sample exams so early. You need something to do to feel like a stressed law student during finals weeks.

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Postby goosey » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:33 pm

snowpeach06 wrote:
keg411 wrote:
goosey wrote:
keg411 wrote:
Relax. You don't need to start doing PT's now. Give it a couple of weeks before you start freaking out. You don't want to burn out again this semester like you did last semester.



yeah..this [and laziness, if I am honest] is primarily why I havent been doing anything significant yet. But our last day of classes is April 28th, so we are entering the final month of class this week--if I wait another few weeks, it will be the day of the exam pretty much haha.


We have our first EXAM on that day. Seriously, you have time. You can start outlining a bit, but I wouldn't touch PT's until maybe a week prior to reading days (if not later).

Agreed. I mean, once your done outlining, there isn't much studying you can do anyway. Minus CALI lessons (which I would actually do while outlining, since they give a lot of nuances of the law). And, you wind up memorizing the outline just by doing sample exam questions. So, I don't see the benefit to doing sample exams so early. You need something to do to feel like a stressed law student during finals weeks.


wow really?

Yeah I did a lot of CALI last semester and it really helped me understand the material..I think I will have to go heavy with that while outlining as you suggested

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Postby goosey » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:35 pm

nooyyllib wrote:So yeah, Con Law takes forever to outline. I am still grateful to Prof. Chemerinsky.


yeah I agree. I have started outlining directly from chemerinsky and then filling in class notes where needed--its going much faster than before, but still time consuming.

I hate con law, but I am starting to believe I may actually do well in that class. Better than K's at least

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Postby romothesavior » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:53 pm

nooyyllib wrote:So yeah, Con Law takes forever to outline. I am still grateful to Prof. Chemerinsky.

Other than Chemerinsky, anybody got a good supp for just outlining con law? Emmanuels or Gilbert proven to be helpful?

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Postby traehekat » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:05 pm

romothesavior wrote:
nooyyllib wrote:So yeah, Con Law takes forever to outline. I am still grateful to Prof. Chemerinsky.

Other than Chemerinsky, anybody got a good supp for just outlining con law? Emmanuels or Gilbert proven to be helpful?


+1. Didn't really think about it until Romo just asked it, but outlining con law with Chem would not be very fun.

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Postby romothesavior » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:06 pm

traehekat wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
nooyyllib wrote:So yeah, Con Law takes forever to outline. I am still grateful to Prof. Chemerinsky.

Other than Chemerinsky, anybody got a good supp for just outlining con law? Emmanuels or Gilbert proven to be helpful?

+1. Didn't really think about it until Romo just asked it, but outlining con law with Chem would not be very fun.

Yup. It is great for learning and absorbing material, but I want something concise and direct (or as concise and direct as this murky class can be).

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Postby keg411 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:02 am

I have the Emanuels for ConLaw. It's been useless so far.

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Postby traehekat » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:30 am

God I love that evidence cases are typically so easy to read through. I was over 100 pages behind and I've been able to catch up pretty quickly.




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