Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

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Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:58 pm

. . .unless they started screwing them before representing them.

Does that bug anyone? Conflict of interest - shmonflict of shminterest, I'm in law school because I want to screw clients. By screw, I mean have sex with. I don't want to represent them because I'm screwing them. I want to screw them because I'm representing them.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby bk1 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:59 pm

I think you just want to screw.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby jayn3 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:01 pm

yet another thread where "masturbate more" is TCR.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby servinDizzert » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:01 pm

mikeytwoshoes wrote:. . .unless they started screwing them before representing them.

Does that bug anyone? Conflict of interest - shmonflict of shminterest, I'm in law school because I want to screw clients. By screw, I mean have sex with. I don't want to represent them because I'm screwing them. I want to screw them because I'm representing them.



1. Meet with your client
2. Screw your client that night
3. Start representing them in the morning

Therefore you cover all bases (pun intended)

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:06 pm

servinDizzert wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:. . .unless they started screwing them before representing them.

Does that bug anyone? Conflict of interest - shmonflict of shminterest, I'm in law school because I want to screw clients. By screw, I mean have sex with. I don't want to represent them because I'm screwing them. I want to screw them because I'm representing them.



1. Meet with your client
2. Screw your client that night
3. Start representing them in the morning

Therefore you cover all bases (pun intended)

There are duties to prospective clients, and screwing them after the consultation is probably not kosher.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby dominkay » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:09 pm

Forget this. I'm going to med school.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby bk1 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:11 pm

dominkay wrote:Forget this. I'm going to med school.


Necrophilia?

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby jayn3 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:14 pm

bk1 wrote:
dominkay wrote:Forget this. I'm going to med school.


Necrophilia?

nah i'm guessing he just watches too much scrubs

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:15 pm

bk1 wrote:
dominkay wrote:Forget this. I'm going to med school.


Necrophilia?

Her tar suggests she's undead. Can the undead even be necrophiliacs?

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby Eric475 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:22 pm

wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby Bildungsroman » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed



http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... rules.html
Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Client-Lawyer Relationship
Rule 1.8 Conflict Of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules
(j) A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby Eric475 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:45 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed



http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... rules.html
Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Client-Lawyer Relationship
Rule 1.8 Conflict Of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules
(j) A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


ahh thank you

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby Lawquacious » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:51 pm

Glad I'm going into law and not psychology- the rules are more relaxed! :wink:

But seriously, poor judgment along these lines can be an easy way to 'screw' your career...

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby enygma » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:16 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed



http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... rules.html
Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Client-Lawyer Relationship
Rule 1.8 Conflict Of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules
(j) A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


oh, so it's cool if the sexual relationship occurs in order to commence the client-lawyer relationship. good to know.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:24 pm

Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed

MRPC 1.8: adopted by nearly all jurisdictions.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:40 pm

enygma wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed



http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... rules.html
Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Client-Lawyer Relationship
Rule 1.8 Conflict Of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules
(j) A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


oh, so it's cool if the sexual relationship occurs in order to commence the client-lawyer relationship. good to know.

There are duties to prospective clients. Moreover Comment [17] states that sexual relations between a lawyer and a client blur the line between personal and profession relations. This leads to a presumption that the lawyer is unlikely to be able to avoid abuse of her position of power. Therefore, I would not be surprised to see a court hold that having sex at the consultation is not cool. You could argue that the comments aren't law, but if you get this one wrong, you may lose your license.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby jmhendri » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:52 pm

I know of a lawyer who fucked his client in the middle of representing her as a plaintiff, learned she was bat shit insane as the case fell apart, but couldn't stop representing her for fear of malpractice.

If you really want to fuck a client, refer them to another attorney first.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby macattaq » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:51 pm

jmhendri wrote:I know of a lawyer who fucked his client in the middle of representing her as a plaintiff, learned she was bat shit insane as the case fell apart, but couldn't stop representing her for fear of malpractice.

If you really want to fuck a client, refer them to another attorney first.


A prospective client who is willing to have sex with their lawyer is probably only fucking them in order to gain some type of advantage over the lawyer. For example, they may be doing it in order to gain the leverage to make you violate the RPCs in some other fashion, or to make you discount their fees. If you refer the client to another lawyer, then you probably won't be fucking them.

EDIT: Mikey, since you're studying for PR right now (I assume), check out the PR Cali Lesson Questions and Problems. Under the remedial questions, check out number three:

Lawyer knows that applicant, a candidate for the bar, smoked marijuana occasionally during the three years while he was in law school. In fact, Lawyer has personally observed applicant smoking marijuana.
In fact, Lawyer has gotten high with applicant on multiple occasions.

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Re: Lawyers are not Allowed to Screw Clients

Postby enygma » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:32 pm

mikeytwoshoes wrote:
enygma wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
Eric475 wrote:wrt the op, is this a law? or is it just a rule that tends to be followed



http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... rules.html
Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Client-Lawyer Relationship
Rule 1.8 Conflict Of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules
(j) A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


oh, so it's cool if the sexual relationship occurs in order to commence the client-lawyer relationship. good to know.

There are duties to prospective clients. Moreover Comment [17] states that sexual relations between a lawyer and a client blur the line between personal and profession relations. This leads to a presumption that the lawyer is unlikely to be able to avoid abuse of her position of power. Therefore, I would not be surprised to see a court hold that having sex at the consultation is not cool. You could argue that the comments aren't law, but if you get this one wrong, you may lose your license.


i'm sorry that you took me seriously.




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