Help me sleep at night...

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rdcws000
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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby rdcws000 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:15 pm

Scurredsitless1 wrote:The idea that every negotiation is an attempted robbery is just silly. With a quick google search, you can have all the pricing information you need to properly haggle.

Good Luck! I had a lot of fun looking for a mattress


You may not like my choice of words due to it's "silliness" but you avoided my point.

The next time you talk someone down on the price, ask them if they would have sold it to you for the sticker price if you didn't haggle... Of course they would have. If you want to do business with people like that, then you should, and my idea is silly.

What I'm saying is that those tactics are not just the "nature of the beast". Reputable retailers don't pull that crap because they already have the best price and they don't have to play the games. No haggle necessary, best market price.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby SaintClarence27 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:16 pm

whuts4lunch wrote:I own a tempurpedic and absolutely love it. Tempurpedics are warmer, so adjust your room temperature accordingly and you'll be very comfortable.


Not me. Whatever is against the mattress ends up covered in sweat.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby eth3n » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:43 pm

I just recently (2 days ago) bought a new mattress, so I guess I should post. First note that I was sleeping on a twin from childhood, and while I was surviving despite the massive dip in the middle of the mattress I feel that it killed my sleep during finals (when you are actually trying to sleep) and my gf is coming in a week and we have never used anything smaller than a queen in the past.

I think craigslist is the key. What you are looking for is NOT A USED MATTRESS, you are looking for a mattress wholesaler or similar who is attempting to get rid of some extra mattresses on craigslist. The difference of course is that these are new mattresses still in the plastic, but you will get them for the same price as people offering "clean/barely used" mattresses on craigslist (as if there was such a thing).

When you see an ad like this "mattress new in the plastic, full warranty, must move soon, etc.," these are the steps you should take:
1 - Ask the model number/year (this is tricky since there is a massive subterfuge effort when it comes to model names so you can't shop around, many mattresses that are the same use different names, but generally you can find it online or in a local store SOMEWHERE.
2 - Call up local mattress stores and say "Hi, my recent <above mattress model> somehow died <be creative>, I loved it and am looking for another." Now they will either say yes/no or they will say "well we have a serta XXX which is the same mattress as the <above mattress model>, but made specifically for our retailer. Generally this is the truth, especially if you make clear that you have previously owned it, they are full of shit, but they aren't that reckless.
3 - Check it out locally, lay down on it, see the suggested retail and their sale price (which will look amazing as its 40% of the manufacturers suggested retail), resist buying the mattress there as mattresses are absurdly marked up and generally mattresses of the same type (spring, etc.) are very similar, although the exact pattern of springs on each mattress is slightly different to avoid anyone actually doing a classification of mattress types (once again subterfuge).
4 - If it seems legit locally, head to the craigslist guy and pick it up (take normal Craigslist precautions of course). I bought a mattress, boxspring, rolling frame + a delivery (saved me the truck rental) for less than 400, including me tipping the guy. The mattress retailed for some ungodly amount, and the sale price at the local retailer was twice what I bought it for. Clearly I could have gotten a cheaper mattress, but this is a legit queen mattress+boxspring+frame for the price of an ikea mattress (which aren't actually as horrible as you think).

I think most people will agree that it is worth it to get a new mattress. I don't know how me+gf sold our college ikea bed+mattress off, but I guess it was to other college students. In any case, my sleep schedule had been horrible for weeks. I couldn't get to sleep until like 4 in the morning even laying in the dark on my old bed. First night I was out at 12 and woke up at 7, I almost cried from happy.

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BTW, I know you said "spare no expense," but there is never a reason to avoid saving some money with minimal effort.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby chicagolaw2013 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:45 pm

eth3n wrote:I just recently (2 days ago) bought a new mattress, so I guess I should post. First note that I was sleeping on a twin from childhood, and while I was surviving despite the massive dip in the middle of the mattress I feel that it killed my sleep during finals (when you are actually trying to sleep) and my gf is coming in a week and we have never used anything smaller than a queen in the past.

I think craigslist is the key. What you are looking for is NOT A USED MATTRESS, you are looking for a mattress wholesaler or similar who is attempting to get rid of some extra mattresses on craigslist. The difference of course is that these are new mattresses still in the plastic, but you will get them for the same price as people offering "clean/barely used" mattresses on craigslist (as if there was such a thing).

When you see an ad like this "mattress new in the plastic, full warranty, must move soon, etc.," these are the steps you should take:
1 - Ask the model number/year (this is tricky since there is a massive subterfuge effort when it comes to model names so you can't shop around, many mattresses that are the same use different names, but generally you can find it online or in a local store SOMEWHERE.
2 - Call up local mattress stores and say "Hi, my recent <above mattress model> somehow died <be creative>, I loved it and am looking for another." Now they will either say yes/no or they will say "well we have a serta XXX which is the same mattress as the <above mattress model>, but made specifically for our retailer. Generally this is the truth, especially if you make clear that you have previously owned it, they are full of shit, but they aren't that reckless.
3 - Check it out locally, lay down on it, see the suggested retail and their sale price (which will look amazing as its 40% of the manufacturers suggested retail), resist buying the mattress there as mattresses are absurdly marked up and generally mattresses of the same type (spring, etc.) are very similar, although the exact pattern of springs on each mattress is slightly different to avoid anyone actually doing a classification of mattress types (once again subterfuge).
4 - If it seems legit locally, head to the craigslist guy and pick it up (take normal Craigslist precautions of course). I bought a mattress, boxspring, rolling frame + a delivery (saved me the truck rental) for less than 400, including me tipping the guy. The mattress retailed for some ungodly amount, and the sale price at the local retailer was twice what I bought it for. Clearly I could have gotten a cheaper mattress, but this is a legit queen mattress+boxspring+frame for the price of an ikea mattress (which aren't actually as horrible as you think).

I think most people will agree that it is worth it to get a new mattress. I don't know how me+gf sold our college ikea bed+mattress off, but I guess it was to other college students. In any case, my sleep schedule had been horrible for weeks. I couldn't get to sleep until like 4 in the morning even laying in the dark on my old bed. First night I was out at 12 and woke up at 7, I almost cried from happy.

---

BTW, I know you said "spare no expense," but there is never a reason to avoid saving some money with minimal effort.


Wow, amazed that this is available on CL. I thought was all used mattresses, and who wants one of those?! hahaha keeping this in mind for next time around!

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby Ragged » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:55 pm

Damn, I thought there was some horrible crime you committed and was looking for reassurance or something. Turned out to be a boring matrasse thread.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby traehekat » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:08 pm

Dude, I had no idea mattresses are so expensive. I knew the Tempur-Pedics were a lot, but I thought they were like, the exception. I'm getting a new mattress for $350 from a cheap furniture depot store. I've never had trouble sleeping, though, so I see no reason to splurge on a ridiculously nice mattress. Not worth the money if you sleep well on a cheaper mattress.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby HBK » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:03 pm

traehekat wrote:Dude, I had no idea mattresses are so expensive. I knew the Tempur-Pedics were a lot, but I thought they were like, the exception. I'm getting a new mattress for $350 from a cheap furniture depot store. I've never had trouble sleeping, though, so I see no reason to splurge on a ridiculously nice mattress. Not worth the money if you sleep well on a cheaper mattress.


Having a really, really, comfortable mattress is how I got a fiancee.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby Duralex » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:47 am

HazelEyes wrote:
SaintClarence27 wrote:Be wary - memory foam/tempurpedic/other related products retain heat a lot more. If you're like me and need to be cool while sleeping, these will SUCK.


Yup, same goes for some pillow-top mattresses.

Same issue.


I've avoided memory foam for this reason, but recently had the chance to try one out on vacation. It's not nearly as bad as it's made out to be. And they do feel amazing. Also, there is not a problem w/reading on them, which I've also been warned about.

The heat from a pillowtop is barely noticeable. A pillowtop is not a featherbed.

I already have a pretty nice mattress (and yes--you must haggle at the mattress store!) yet after trying out the Tempur I'm considering a topper.

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Re: Help me sleep at night...

Postby nealric » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:10 pm

I got a foam mattress for around $200 at Ikea. If you like a firm mattress, it's more comfy than even $1,000 spring mattresses.




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