A'nold wrote:OP is flaming. Hth.
Why do you say that?
A'nold wrote:OP is flaming. Hth.
chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:
Not necessarily the first year...I shouldn't have said "when I graduate"...I'm talking first few years (before we start having a family). As long as the 70k total between the fiance and me rises out of the gate (hoping there is NO WAY I'll be making anywhere near the measly $20k-ish that I am per year on unemp), I'll be a happy camper. I mean, we're making it, but it's very very tight.
Did they give you a scholly? DePaul is really bad with yanking scholarships that are tied to GPAs. The URMs typically get 2.2 GPA scholarships, which are pretty hard to lose, but the majority of scholarships are tied to 3.5 and above, which about 60% of 1Ls lose after first year. And the grade scandal doesn't help either...
Mine's tied to GPA, gotta keep a 3.2. According to the website, and archived class ranks, if I got a 3.2 on the nose, I'd be in the top 30 percent. I figure that I'll hopefully keep it (no guarantee, obviously, but I really don't have a choice, other than to drop out if I lose it).
I've heard about the grade scandal, but haven't actually seen detailed info on it. Link?
miamiman wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:I'm clerking at a small employment law firm right now, but they've already told me they can't hire me as an attorney, and one of the associates let slip that the big boss only brings in clerks to get free Westlaw access.
You're joking right? This is the most fucked up thing I've heard about in a while.
Ender Wiggins wrote:I'm clerking at a small employment law firm right now, but they've already told me they can't hire me as an attorney, and one of the associates let slip that the big boss only brings in clerks to get free Westlaw access.
chicagolaw2013 wrote:Hmmm...lots to think about...
Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Hmmm...lots to think about...
Well, try not to freak out too much. The good news is that the school atmosphere is really great! I have made so many really good friends here that I would never have met otherwise.
The professors are really good too...they all went to Harvard, Yale, NYU, Northwestern, etc.
Just make sure you are well prepared if you get Greenberger for civ pro...he is terrifying the first few weeks!
MrKappus wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:I'm clerking at a small employment law firm right now, but they've already told me they can't hire me as an attorney, and one of the associates let slip that the big boss only brings in clerks to get free Westlaw access.
You're violating the terms of your agreement w/ Westlaw not to use your summer access at a firm job.
Ender Wiggins wrote:Well, try not to freak out too much. The good news is that the school atmosphere is really great! I have made so many really good friends here that I would never have met otherwise.
The professors are really good too...they all went to Harvard, Yale, NYU, Northwestern, etc.
Just make sure you are well prepared if you get _____ for _____... he is terrifying the first few weeks!
chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Hmmm...lots to think about...
Well, try not to freak out too much. The good news is that the school atmosphere is really great! I have made so many really good friends here that I would never have met otherwise.
The professors are really good too...they all went to Harvard, Yale, NYU, Northwestern, etc.
Just make sure you are well prepared if you get Greenberger for civ pro...he is terrifying the first few weeks!
I've heard he's kind of a nutcase...true, I guess?
romothesavior wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:Well, try not to freak out too much. The good news is that the school atmosphere is really great! I have made so many really good friends here that I would never have met otherwise.
The professors are really good too...they all went to Harvard, Yale, NYU, Northwestern, etc.
Just make sure you are well prepared if you get _____ for _____... he is terrifying the first few weeks!
I think you could probably say this about 95% of the schools in the country.
Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Hmmm...lots to think about...
Well, try not to freak out too much. The good news is that the school atmosphere is really great! I have made so many really good friends here that I would never have met otherwise.
The professors are really good too...they all went to Harvard, Yale, NYU, Northwestern, etc.
Just make sure you are well prepared if you get Greenberger for civ pro...he is terrifying the first few weeks!
I've heard he's kind of a nutcase...true, I guess?
Well, he's more bluster than anything else. I was unfortunate enough to be called on the first day of class--and I'm still repressing the memory! He won't give you trouble if you show up having read the cases and rules and can answer thoughtfully. He hates gunners...he called a guy who tried to hijack the class with some tangent a moron to his face right in the middle of class.
Ender Wiggins wrote:I actually do like Greenie, because he forces you to do the work and you learn more. His exam is ridiculous, though...so if you get him, save this thread. He does part multiple-choice/part essay. The exam I had was 26 pages long and made a "THWUMP" sound when it landed. The multiple choice wasn't bad, but the essay was a 3-page long essay that had every possible iteration of the Erie Doctrine that you could imagine. The people that got Cs/Ds were the ones who couldn't finish the exam--so time management is a big thing with this guy.
roofles wrote:I was offered one of the 15k/year scholarships with a 3.2 gpa requirement as well. When I visited, a current student said that his legal writing section size was 15 students so, given their first year curve, only 1-2 students will receive an A in each section. Since many, if not most, of the incoming class was awarded similar scholarship requirements, it would seem difficult to keep the scholarship. Of three students I asked who received similar scholarships, only one had kept it through their 3L. All of that combined with the heavy-handed gpa tactics as shown on ATL, made me decide not to attend DePaul. All of the current students I met seemed to get along and were much closer than anywhere else I visited FWIW.
roofles wrote:I was offered one of the 15k/year scholarships with a 3.2 gpa requirement as well. When I visited, a current student said that his legal writing section size was 15 students so, given their first year curve, only 1-2 students will receive an A in each section. Since many, if not most, of the incoming class was awarded similar scholarship requirements, it would seem difficult to keep the scholarship. Of three students I asked who received similar scholarships, only one had kept it through their 3L. All of that combined with the heavy-handed gpa tactics as shown on ATL, made me decide not to attend DePaul. All of the current students I met seemed to get along and were much closer than anywhere else I visited FWIW.
bestusernameever wrote:Especially if you are not at a t14, it seems like you (meaning anyone) is fcked.
chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:I actually do like Greenie, because he forces you to do the work and you learn more. His exam is ridiculous, though...so if you get him, save this thread. He does part multiple-choice/part essay. The exam I had was 26 pages long and made a "THWUMP" sound when it landed. The multiple choice wasn't bad, but the essay was a 3-page long essay that had every possible iteration of the Erie Doctrine that you could imagine. The people that got Cs/Ds were the ones who couldn't finish the exam--so time management is a big thing with this guy.
So, in your opinion, hit up the essay first then? I'm guessing this is where most of the points were at.
Ender Wiggins wrote:chicagolaw2013 wrote:Ender Wiggins wrote:I actually do like Greenie, because he forces you to do the work and you learn more. His exam is ridiculous, though...so if you get him, save this thread. He does part multiple-choice/part essay. The exam I had was 26 pages long and made a "THWUMP" sound when it landed. The multiple choice wasn't bad, but the essay was a 3-page long essay that had every possible iteration of the Erie Doctrine that you could imagine. The people that got Cs/Ds were the ones who couldn't finish the exam--so time management is a big thing with this guy.
So, in your opinion, hit up the essay first then? I'm guessing this is where most of the points were at.
That is actually the mistake that the people who didn't finish made. My advice is to whiz through the multiple choice as fast as you can (45 min to an hour max) and take the last couple hours to really nail the essay. Outline it first so you don't forget any of the issues. The highest grades go to the students who can spot and analyze the most issues. Writing ability really has nothing to do with it.
stinger35 wrote:Jesus this is depressing.
Time to transfer.
Kobe_Teeth wrote:stinger35 wrote:Jesus this is depressing.
Time to transfer.
Have you even started?
stinger35 wrote:Kobe_Teeth wrote:stinger35 wrote:Jesus this is depressing.
Time to transfer.
Have you even started?
Haha, yes. Obviously I was going to try regardless as my apps are going out tomorrow but reading this made me glad that I am giving it my best shot.
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