My motivation to get good grades in law school

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My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby acdisagod » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:00 pm

I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well

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Postby legalease9 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:25 pm

Good Post!

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Postby 270910 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:23 am

acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well


huh? The lowest hours worked on the list is in the 50 neighborhood.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:59 am

acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well

You're golden, no one else has this motivation. How did I miss this?

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby bigben » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:07 am

Flame. The only lawyers in private practice who work short hours are about to get laid off.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby AngryAvocado » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:11 am

My motivation:

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Postby Unemployed » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:12 am

bigben wrote:Flame. The only lawyers in private practice who work short hours are about to get laid off.


Or their firm dissolves. See #61.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby acdisagod » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:25 am

disco_barred wrote:
acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well


huh? The lowest hours worked on the list is in the 50 neighborhood.


LOL RC fail on my part. 53 hours worked 43 hours billed.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby acdisagod » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:29 am

mikeytwoshoes wrote:
acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well

You're golden, no one else has this motivation. How did I miss this?


Idk, but this is going to be my super secret motivation that I just posted on the internet. I hope no one else has heard of this "biglaw" . Let's keep the secret of these high salaries between us.

All joking aside, I don't think most people are motivated to get good grades so they will work fewer hours. I hear people on this website hoping to work at firms like Watchell and Sullivan and Cromwell not Patterson even though Watchell and Sullivan have among the highest hours worked for associates.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby Close Diamond » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:12 am

$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.

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Postby Xizenta » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:01 am

Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...

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Postby A'nold » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:06 am

Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


Considering I've worked full-time jobs that pay around $60 a day.......STFU.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby Close Diamond » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:39 am

A'nold wrote:
Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


Considering I've worked full-time jobs that pay around $60 a day.......STFU.


I've got no problem with going to school for three years, spending thousands of duckets, and working 60 hours per week because you love it. Everyone should be so lucky as to find a professional passion. But if you don't like it... I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby A'nold » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:02 am

Close Diamond wrote:
A'nold wrote:
Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


Considering I've worked full-time jobs that pay around $60 a day.......STFU.


I've got no problem with going to school for three years, spending thousands of duckets, and working 60 hours per week because you love it. Everyone should be so lucky as to find a professional passion. But if you don't like it... I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


I hope you know I was joking. The STFU was just messing around.

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Postby 270910 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:54 am

Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


1) Market rate is basically 80/hour billed (2k billables). Obviously it goes down as you work more hours than you bill and bill more than 2K hours.

2) Many gigs that pay an hourly rate near a starting firm job don't give you the opportunity (requirement) to work that number of hours day in and day out.

3) You get more each year, and bonuses add a good amount when the economy isn't cratered.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby pleasetryagain » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:01 am

A'nold wrote:
Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


Considering I've worked full-time jobs that pay around $60 a day.......STFU.


+1. currently at one of these jobs. the boss above my boss who has been with the company 15 years makes 34000/year. she easily works 50 hours/week 50 weeks a year. $13.6/hour. Ill take biglaw.

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Postby 270910 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:02 am

pleasetryagain wrote:+1. currently at one of these jobs. the boss above my boss who has been with the company 15 years makes 34000/year. she easily works 50 hours/week 50 weeks a year. $13.6/hour. Ill take biglaw.


I can't believe the whining I sometimes here about big or even midlaw. It's dangerous to go to law school without exposure to other jobs. PSA: most non-biglaw jobs are full of suck and don't pay nearly as well.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby pleasetryagain » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:05 am

disco_barred wrote:
pleasetryagain wrote:+1. currently at one of these jobs. the boss above my boss who has been with the company 15 years makes 34000/year. she easily works 50 hours/week 50 weeks a year. $13.6/hour. Ill take biglaw.


I can't believe the whining I sometimes here about big or even midlaw. It's dangerous to go to law school without exposure to other jobs. PSA: most non-biglaw jobs are full of suck and don't pay nearly as well.


FULL of suck. BRIMMING with suck. I havent used my brain at work in months - and when I do I am usually performing some other duty that I shouldn't be.

These jobs also almost NEVER pay 26 year olds $100k/year either.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby bigben » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:33 pm

Xizenta wrote:
Close Diamond wrote:$50 per hour? I never did the math until now (still researching the profession). A person can make $50 per hour designing websites from home.


Seriously... I never thought about it that way. Starting biglaw salary is like 60 bucks an hour dude, that blows, considering we are taking a huge risk just for the chance of making that much...


It is such a funny moment when people realize this. You may make a pile of money in biglaw, and it may be a nice gig, but by the hour it may be no better than being an LSAT instructor, or doing graphic design or some shit.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby Unemployed » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:49 pm

These are 2005 figures, btw, when the "market" rate was still 125k. But then again, they only surveyed 3-5th years. So this is probably not too far from the truth for the 1st years of today.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby d34d9823 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:09 pm

acdisagod wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well

You're golden, no one else has this motivation. How did I miss this?


Idk, but this is going to be my super secret motivation that I just posted on the internet. I hope no one else has heard of this "biglaw" . Let's keep the secret of these high salaries between us.

All joking aside, I don't think most people are motivated to get good grades so they will work fewer hours. I hear people on this website hoping to work at firms like Watchell and Sullivan and Cromwell not Patterson even though Watchell and Sullivan have among the highest hours worked for associates.


Agree with the sentiment, but if you have any Wachtell aspirations, misspelling their name is not going to help.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby chicagolaw2013 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:15 pm

AngryAvocado wrote:My motivation:

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YAY Ducktales ooh woo woo.

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AngryAvocado wrote:My motivation:

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Mine:

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Postby Unemployed » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:21 pm

JessicaTiger wrote:
AngryAvocado wrote:My motivation:

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Mine:

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Is that an Enzo? I mean... the pope doesn't really need one, you know.

Edit: Oh haha I can see it's an enzo in the link.

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Re: My motivation to get good grades in law school

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:25 pm

acdisagod wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
acdisagod wrote:I get A's so I can work at one of these firms: http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms.php

Preferably: Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, 43 hours of work for 200,000 in compensation. The associates working 43 hours probably arent the ones getting 200,000 but still, I'm sure they do quite well

You're golden, no one else has this motivation. How did I miss this?


Idk, but this is going to be my super secret motivation that I just posted on the internet. I hope no one else has heard of this "biglaw" . Let's keep the secret of these high salaries between us.

All joking aside, I don't think most people are motivated to get good grades so they will work fewer hours. I hear people on this website hoping to work at firms like Watchell and Sullivan and Cromwell not Patterson even though Watchell and Sullivan have among the highest hours worked for associates.

I'm just saying that your motivation to get good grades is ineffective. Even if you go into law school picturing the brass ring every time you open a book, it's not going to help you get good grades in law school. You have to find an advantage. The only motivation to do well in law school is the payoff at the end, be it biglaw or prestigious PI work. No one goes to law school for its own sake.
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