Unemployed wrote:I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?apper123 wrote:i think it's just those who do well are more apt to talk/post about it and those that don't do well are not apt to post/talk about it
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Unemployed wrote:I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?apper123 wrote:i think it's just those who do well are more apt to talk/post about it and those that don't do well are not apt to post/talk about it
i got a nice haircut yesterdayUnemployed wrote:I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?apper123 wrote:i think it's just those who do well are more apt to talk/post about it and those that don't do well are not apt to post/talk about it
My hair is ridiculously long - but I am waiting till after exams since i refuse to do the "playoff beard" as many others do.apper123 wrote:i got a nice haircut yesterdayUnemployed wrote:I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?apper123 wrote:i think it's just those who do well are more apt to talk/post about it and those that don't do well are not apt to post/talk about it
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yeah that's all i could really come up with
I haven't gone outside in 3 days... wait, going on day 4 now.stinger35 wrote:apper123 wrote:i got a nice haircut yesterdayUnemployed wrote:I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?apper123 wrote:i think it's just those who do well are more apt to talk/post about it and those that don't do well are not apt to post/talk about it
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yeah that's all i could really come up with
My hair is ridiculously long - but I am waiting till after exams since i refuse to do the "playoff beard" as many others do.
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fixedUnemployed wrote:I haven't gone outside in 3 days... wait, going on day 4 now.stinger35 wrote:apper123 wrote:i got a nice haircut yesterdayUnemployed wrote:
I mean... what else do we have going for ourselves?
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yeah that's all i could really come up with
My hair is ridiculously long - but I am waiting till after exams since i refuse to do the "playoff beard" as many others do.
Guess that's what happens when you try to learn a semester's worth of stuff in two days.
That sounds like my torts class... Wishing you the best luck!rbgrocio wrote:I am fricking out about finals. I didn't learn anything in two of my classes.... so I am just going to go with what I taught myself. The ones were they actually taught us something, they taught us soooo much that each outline is almost 100 pages long and for one of the classes she wants us to remember the cases we went over (a bunch) to draw comparisons in the final... I'm exhausted.
OperaSoprano wrote:That sounds like my torts class... Wishing you the best luck!
As for me, my fashion sense has taken a dreadful hit. I've been wearing jeans and ballet flats all week, and I've barely done my hair or makeup.
ive never worn make up to class if that makes you feel any betterOperaSoprano wrote:That sounds like my torts class... Wishing you the best luck!rbgrocio wrote:I am fricking out about finals. I didn't learn anything in two of my classes.... so I am just going to go with what I taught myself. The ones were they actually taught us something, they taught us soooo much that each outline is almost 100 pages long and for one of the classes she wants us to remember the cases we went over (a bunch) to draw comparisons in the final... I'm exhausted.
As for me, my fashion sense has taken a dreadful hit. I've been wearing jeans and ballet flats all week, and I've barely done my hair or makeup.
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Congrats. Not on exams, but on late night drunkery.prezidentv8 wrote:Back from drinking. It was legit. We also got late night take out. I got a chicken sandwich, chicken nuggets, and onion rings. It was delicious. Back to studying tomorrow. Huzzah!
JCC's first post in that blog implies that he/she/it was and alt. JCC might still walk amongst us! *shifty eyes*stinger35 wrote:Random thought: whatever happened to JayCutlersCombover? I still see Arrow around (obviously) but no Jay. I liked his post as well.
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OperaSoprano wrote:That sounds like my torts class... Wishing you the best luck!rbgrocio wrote:I am fricking out about finals. I didn't learn anything in two of my classes.... so I am just going to go with what I taught myself. The ones were they actually taught us something, they taught us soooo much that each outline is almost 100 pages long and for one of the classes she wants us to remember the cases we went over (a bunch) to draw comparisons in the final... I'm exhausted.
As for me, my fashion sense has taken a dreadful hit. I've been wearing jeans and ballet flats all week, and I've barely done my hair or makeup.
At least your outlines are finished! Granted I have a two week reading period with nothing else to do before my first final, but mine are very much not. I wouldn't worry too much about your classmate, though. One person can't screw up your curve. If they could, every single person who goes to school with the people posting in this thread would be f****d. Except for my classmates. I am not the 1L valedictorian of Fordham.rbgrocio wrote:OperaSoprano wrote:That sounds like my torts class... Wishing you the best luck!rbgrocio wrote:I am fricking out about finals. I didn't learn anything in two of my classes.... so I am just going to go with what I taught myself. The ones were they actually taught us something, they taught us soooo much that each outline is almost 100 pages long and for one of the classes she wants us to remember the cases we went over (a bunch) to draw comparisons in the final... I'm exhausted.
As for me, my fashion sense has taken a dreadful hit. I've been wearing jeans and ballet flats all week, and I've barely done my hair or makeup.
lol. My torts outline last year was about 25 pages, and I did very well on the exam. This year my outlines are sooooo long, and on top of that we have two open-book exams, which I hate! To make things worse there is someone in my class who gets unlimited time for finals, so all he has to do is crack the book open for those open book exams and have some fun with it while we all struggle to do everything within the allotted time.
My understanding was that there were broad policy based categories within negligence where the government did not consent to be sued, but they could do with better definition in my notes. I need to get on it. Torts is on the 19th, so I don't have much time.Leeroy Jenkins wrote:Here's my understanding of the sovereign immunity <--> discretion relationship
Basically, if in ruling against the government, the courts would be, in effect, telling the government how to spend its resources, it falls under sovereign immunity. On the other hand, if the government spends its resources in a negligent way or sets out to do something, and does it negligently, then it is liable.
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Summons: Vanwinkle. Crimlaw is his subject matter and particular expertise.Unemployed wrote:Can a crimlaw expert help me with self-defense under the MPC (and the reasonableness standard)?
MPC 3.04(2)(c) says an actor "may estimate the necessity [of using force to protect himself] under the circumstances as he believes them to be," but it says nothing about that belief's having to be reasonable.
MPC 3.09 does say that if the actor was reckless or negligent in holding such a belief, self-defense is not available for prosecution for reckless/negligent crimes. So that's where reasonableness comes in, I guess.
Now, if I am hypersensitive and unreasonably -but in good faith- believe that you are about to kill me, and I pull out my gun and shoot you, I could be convicted in MPC jurisdiction for involuntary manslaughter (reckless mental state) or negligent homicide (negligence mental state) under 3.09, right? What about murder (either purposeful/knowledge murder or "extreme disregard for human life" murder)?
On the other hand, if the same thing happened in a traditional common law jurisdiction, self-defense would not be available at all and I could be on the hook for murder right (especially in states where one can premeditate and deliberate in less than a second)?
Pretty much. The reason the MPC has that reckless/negligent self defense rule is to prevent murder convictions for people who thought they were acting out of self-defense but really shouldn't have jumped the gun. The only thing I find issue with is that I doubt a CL jurisdiction could sustain a conviction for first degree murder in that situation. There just isn't enough evidence to prove premeditation, unless the guy carried a gun out into the public and told his friends "i'm going to try to provoke a situation so I can kill someone in self-defense".Unemployed wrote:Can a crimlaw expert help me with self-defense under the MPC (and the reasonableness standard)?
MPC 3.04(2)(c) says an actor "may estimate the necessity [of using force to protect himself] under the circumstances as he believes them to be," but it says nothing about that belief's having to be reasonable.
MPC 3.09 does say that if the actor was reckless or negligent in holding such a belief, self-defense is not available for prosecution for reckless/negligent crimes. So that's where reasonableness comes in, I guess.
Now, if I am hypersensitive and unreasonably -but in good faith- believe that you are about to kill me, and I pull out my gun and shoot you, I could be convicted in MPC jurisdiction for involuntary manslaughter (reckless mental state) or negligent homicide (negligence mental state) under 3.09, right? What about murder (either purposeful/knowledge murder or "extreme disregard for human life" murder)?
On the other hand, if the same thing happened in a traditional common law jurisdiction, self-defense would not be available at all and I could be on the hook for murder right (especially in states where one can premeditate and deliberate in less than a second)?
the 19th?? you have soooo much time. I got 6 days betwee my last day of class and my first finalOperaSoprano wrote:My understanding was that there were broad policy based categories within negligence where the government did not consent to be sued, but they could do with better definition in my notes. I need to get on it. Torts is on the 19th, so I don't have much time.
Thank you...Leeroy Jenkins wrote:Pretty much. The reason the MPC has that reckless/negligent self defense rule is to prevent murder convictions for people who thought they were acting out of self-defense but really shouldn't have jumped the gun. The only thing I find issue with is that I doubt a CL jurisdiction could sustain a conviction for first degree murder.Unemployed wrote:Can a crimlaw expert help me with self-defense under the MPC (and the reasonableness standard)?
MPC 3.04(2)(c) says an actor "may estimate the necessity [of using force to protect himself] under the circumstances as he believes them to be," but it says nothing about that belief's having to be reasonable.
MPC 3.09 does say that if the actor was reckless or negligent in holding such a belief, self-defense is not available for prosecution for reckless/negligent crimes. So that's where reasonableness comes in, I guess.
Now, if I am hypersensitive and unreasonably -but in good faith- believe that you are about to kill me, and I pull out my gun and shoot you, I could be convicted in MPC jurisdiction for involuntary manslaughter (reckless mental state) or negligent homicide (negligence mental state) under 3.09, right? What about murder (either purposeful/knowledge murder or "extreme disregard for human life" murder)?
On the other hand, if the same thing happened in a traditional common law jurisdiction, self-defense would not be available at all and I could be on the hook for murder right (especially in states where one can premeditate and deliberate in less than a second)?
Spot on. The language used creates a framework that operates a little differently, but the reasoanbleness standard absolutely exists under MPC self defense - they just wanted to use their fancy pants 4 mental state structure because lawyer's are egotistical like that, clarity be damned.Unemployed wrote:Can a crimlaw expert help me with self-defense under the MPC (and the reasonableness standard)?
MPC 3.04(2)(c) says an actor "may estimate the necessity [of using force to protect himself] under the circumstances as he believes them to be," but it says nothing about that belief's having to be reasonable.
MPC 3.09 does say that if the actor was reckless or negligent in holding such a belief, self-defense is not available for prosecution for reckless/negligent crimes. So that's where reasonableness comes in, I guess.
The question is how we define reasonable, and there is a plethora of case law and literature. I confess from the getgo that I don't know precisely how the MPC falls out here, except for the general observation that to many professors "MPC jurisdiction" is an irrelevant fiction, since states usually adopt provisions ad-hoc and fuck everything up.Unemployed wrote:Now, if I am hypersensitive and unreasonably -but in good faith- believe that you are about to kill me, and I pull out my gun and shoot you, I could be convicted in MPC jurisdiction for involuntary manslaughter (reckless mental state) or negligent homicide (negligence mental state) under 3.09, right? What about murder (either purposeful/knowledge murder or "extreme disregard for human life" murder)?
On the other hand, if the same thing happened in a traditional common law jurisdiction, self-defense would not be available at all and I could be on the hook for murder right (especially in states where one can premeditate and deliberate in less than a second)?
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