Anyone taking the patent bar this summer?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:48 am
Specifically any rising 2L's trying to get it in before OCI?
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Are there any other options of how to take it? The paper version is more expensive...BigFatPanda wrote:a nice way to blow $600, if you take it with prometric.
i had this thought last summer and kicked myself for not getting it done. i'd heard it was pretty much described as the golden ticket for a 1L job, but from what i have seen and heard from others, it doesn't make much of a difference ITE in the job hunt unless you have actual experience to back it up.UFMatt wrote:I'm starting my first year this fall, but would like to take it this summer. It depends on how much time I'll have to study for it. It'd be nice to have as a 1L for the summer job/internship hunt.
Is this a hunch, or youve spoken to attorneys? Is it worth taking now (after 1L) to get a leg up in OCI, or just wait and hopefully have a firm pay for it?wiseowl wrote:i had this thought last summer and kicked myself for not getting it done. i'd heard it was pretty much described as the golden ticket for a 1L job, but from what i have seen and heard from others, it doesn't make much of a difference ITE in the job hunt unless you have actual experience to back it up.UFMatt wrote:I'm starting my first year this fall, but would like to take it this summer. It depends on how much time I'll have to study for it. It'd be nice to have as a 1L for the summer job/internship hunt.
people with the patent bar and experience as an agent or a patent paralegal get jobs easily. people with the patent bar and no experience are better than people with neither but not significantly.
Did you take a course?Big Shrimpin wrote:Thats what I did last spring. Started studying in April and took it mid-summer. Take TONS of practice exams and know answers to the practice questions reflexively because ~30% of your exam could be potential repeats. No joke. But watch out for changed answer choices and re-worded old questions.UFMatt wrote:I'm starting my first year this fall, but would like to take it this summer. It depends on how much time I'll have to study for it. It'd be nice to have as a 1L for the summer job/internship hunt.
I didn't do 1L OCI because I already had a great job lined up with a judge, but we'll see how I fare at PLIP and Loyola and OCI at my school this summer.
i've heard it both ways. i've asked attorneys if it matters and many said "hell no, waste of time, just being eligible is enough for OCI" and then i've heard people who do have it at least get it noticed, positively, by interviewers.dreman510 wrote:Is this a hunch, or youve spoken to attorneys? Is it worth taking now (after 1L) to get a leg up in OCI, or just wait and hopefully have a firm pay for it?wiseowl wrote:i had this thought last summer and kicked myself for not getting it done. i'd heard it was pretty much described as the golden ticket for a 1L job, but from what i have seen and heard from others, it doesn't make much of a difference ITE in the job hunt unless you have actual experience to back it up.UFMatt wrote:I'm starting my first year this fall, but would like to take it this summer. It depends on how much time I'll have to study for it. It'd be nice to have as a 1L for the summer job/internship hunt.
people with the patent bar and experience as an agent or a patent paralegal get jobs easily. people with the patent bar and no experience are better than people with neither but not significantly.
So best bet, its marginally helpful if you have no experience...wiseowl wrote:i've heard it both ways. i've asked attorneys if it matters and many said "hell no, waste of time, just being eligible is enough for OCI" and then i've heard people who do have it at least get it noticed, positively, by interviewers.dreman510 wrote:Is this a hunch, or youve spoken to attorneys? Is it worth taking now (after 1L) to get a leg up in OCI, or just wait and hopefully have a firm pay for it?wiseowl wrote:i had this thought last summer and kicked myself for not getting it done. i'd heard it was pretty much described as the golden ticket for a 1L job, but from what i have seen and heard from others, it doesn't make much of a difference ITE in the job hunt unless you have actual experience to back it up.UFMatt wrote:I'm starting my first year this fall, but would like to take it this summer. It depends on how much time I'll have to study for it. It'd be nice to have as a 1L for the summer job/internship hunt.
people with the patent bar and experience as an agent or a patent paralegal get jobs easily. people with the patent bar and no experience are better than people with neither but not significantly.
again, you may never have this kind of time and money again so if it fits in your schedule i'd say go for it, but don't rearrange your life.
Need to meet the requirements...usually a science background...jnorsky wrote:should you only do this if you have a science or engineering background and want to do IP law? Or can anyone going to law school from any background take it and have it sort of stand out?
I don't have them for sale, but I used the Bullseye Patent Bar Exam materials and they only cost me $30. They also have some helpful advice for studying: http://www.patentbarexamprep.com/frequentquestions.htmlnashvillestar wrote:Since this thread is related to patent bar and several of you have already taken the test, I wanted to know if anyone is selling their study material. If so, please PM me. Thanks!
http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/exam ... esults.jspnashvillestar wrote:Since this thread is related to patent bar and several of you have already taken the test, I wanted to know if anyone is selling their study material. If so, please PM me. Thanks!
If u have multiple $500 to blow, i am sure they don't mind you filling their pocket with cash.engineer wrote:I'm considering taking it without much preparation. Do they care how many times you take it? Would it be *really* bad if I failed it my first time? I should put in the effort to study, but I'm lazy and want to go to egypt this summer.
EDIT: I'm going to put in the time and effort it deserves.
PLI on ebay.dreman510 wrote:So what are the good cheap options to study?
Ive heard of Bullseye, any others?
What if I have an open ticket (just got it, court date is set)?ApexChaser wrote:PLI on ebay.dreman510 wrote:So what are the good cheap options to study?
Ive heard of Bullseye, any others?
ARGHHHH... chasing down court records for an old speeding ticket is not fun. If you've got traffic infractions, might want to start the records search before you get around to the USPTO application as it may take a while.
Not sure, but I would try to get it settled before applying just to simplify things. It is not a huge deal though as you get a 2 month window to respond if they feel your application is incomplete.dreman510 wrote:What if I have an open ticket (just got it, court date is set)?ApexChaser wrote:PLI on ebay.dreman510 wrote:So what are the good cheap options to study?
Ive heard of Bullseye, any others?
ARGHHHH... chasing down court records for an old speeding ticket is not fun. If you've got traffic infractions, might want to start the records search before you get around to the USPTO application as it may take a while.