Will the military pay for law school??

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby jlnoa0915 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:23 am

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.

anli wrote:To be honest, I find your tone quite offensive. Honorable men and women put their lives on the line every day, and they do so without your exaggerated sense of entitlement or complaint. If you want the benefits of being a doctor, go be a doctor. That is, if you have the grades in a premed curriculum, a high MCAT, and oh, are willing to trade a prestigious residency for a career in the service. (By the way, most doctors stay because you get a pension at 20 years, so it makes sense to do so.)

To answer your question: the only Reserve component that will pay for your law school is the Army. You would need to do ROTC and get a guaranteed reserve or national guard contract, and the service will pay for 2 years of tuition plus stipend. If you don't get one of the guaranteed reserve duty scholarships (which are quite competitive), you can compete for a regular scholarship (even more competitive) and hope you get assigned to reserve duty (likely). You would need to train as a Reservist during school and attend ROTC training during your summers (this could prove damaging to your 2L firm hopes). You would not be guaranteed a JAG slot, and yes, you would probably deploy at least once.

If you want more information, I suggest you talk to a more knowledgeable source, i.e. a recruiter. If you do end up serving, you really had better learn to chin up and take it, because deployments and risk is what you give in exchange for the respect and financial benefits we citizens give.


If this is not a flame:

Whatever Ivy you went to should be ashamed by the horrid content of that comment; obviously you didn't learn much since you need to revert to name calling to make some kind of bumbling argument. It is also great to see that your family had courage and served, but also depressing to see that you are a sniveling coward who feels entitled to use the military to avoid debt. I am glad that you are looking at the Coast Guard and pray you don't get deployed because your type would never look out for the people around you in a crisis. Frankly, as a veteran who was honored by my state senate for my service; you disgust me.
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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby JMD.USMC » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:23 am

Cole S. Law wrote:
voyagerfan wrote:Doesn't the marine corps actually make their JAG officer be real officers?


All military officers are real officers. The Marines make a big deal about making their JAGs go through all the same training as line officers, but they're not leading footpatrols in the combat zone. They do have to have the same basic training as everyone else.



this is correct, but not complete.

The difference between Marine JAG and the other services isn't just the training, Marine JAG Officers actually ARE line officers.
This does not mean they actually will ever lead a patrol, however the Marine Corps expects all of it's officers, regardless of being a Sup-O, Aviator, Log-O, or JAG, to have a certain amount of knowledge and ability when it comes to the execution of combat operations. It goes back to the whole "Every Marine a Rifleman" concept

The reason it makes sense/works for the Marine Corps is because we constantly put the focus on the Infantryman. Meaning, no matter what you job is in the Marine Corps, you are there to support LCpl Jones the grunt lugging a rifle in the field.
I'm not saying it's better than the other branches, but our small size allows us to organize and focus on what makes the Marine Corps the Marine Corps.


/[strike]soapbox[/strike]Jarhead rant.

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby sky7 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:49 am

I graduated (barely) from the Naval Academy. Apparently, all my descendants will be patriotic. That's pretty sweet!

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby mhernton » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:24 am

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.

anli wrote:To be honest, I find your tone quite offensive. Honorable men and women put their lives on the line every day, and they do so without your exaggerated sense of entitlement or complaint. If you want the benefits of being a doctor, go be a doctor. That is, if you have the grades in a premed curriculum, a high MCAT, and oh, are willing to trade a prestigious residency for a career in the service. (By the way, most doctors stay because you get a pension at 20 years, so it makes sense to do so.)

To answer your question: the only Reserve component that will pay for your law school is the Army. You would need to do ROTC and get a guaranteed reserve or national guard contract, and the service will pay for 2 years of tuition plus stipend. If you don't get one of the guaranteed reserve duty scholarships (which are quite competitive), you can compete for a regular scholarship (even more competitive) and hope you get assigned to reserve duty (likely). You would need to train as a Reservist during school and attend ROTC training during your summers (this could prove damaging to your 2L firm hopes). You would not be guaranteed a JAG slot, and yes, you would probably deploy at least once.

If you want more information, I suggest you talk to a more knowledgeable source, i.e. a recruiter. If you do end up serving, you really had better learn to chin up and take it, because deployments and risk is what you give in exchange for the respect and financial benefits we citizens give.



The JAG Programs will pay 60K in bonuses over your career, plus advancement to O-3 almost immediately after completing training, which pays close to 90K a year depending on your time in service.

The service covers medical school because they have their own medical school and well doctors patch people up after they get shot or blown up. The Lawyers don't help with those kinds of things. If you forefathers are or were in the service why are you asking us??

The term offensive is subjective, so if anli finds your writing and perspective offensive then it is, to him at least. Your Ivy Education and Ivy MBA put you at 23 - 25 y/o, 'Jerk' is the best you could come up with?? Really??? REALLY????

With your background you should be attending an Ivy Law School with Full Scholly, what are you worried about as far as paying for it is concerned??


Sky7, what class at the Academy are you??

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby Sauer Grapes » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:49 am

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.

anli wrote:To be honest, I find your tone quite offensive. Honorable men and women put their lives on the line every day, and they do so without your exaggerated sense of entitlement or complaint. If you want the benefits of being a doctor, go be a doctor. That is, if you have the grades in a premed curriculum, a high MCAT, and oh, are willing to trade a prestigious residency for a career in the service. (By the way, most doctors stay because you get a pension at 20 years, so it makes sense to do so.)

To answer your question: the only Reserve component that will pay for your law school is the Army. You would need to do ROTC and get a guaranteed reserve or national guard contract, and the service will pay for 2 years of tuition plus stipend. If you don't get one of the guaranteed reserve duty scholarships (which are quite competitive), you can compete for a regular scholarship (even more competitive) and hope you get assigned to reserve duty (likely). You would need to train as a Reservist during school and attend ROTC training during your summers (this could prove damaging to your 2L firm hopes). You would not be guaranteed a JAG slot, and yes, you would probably deploy at least once.

If you want more information, I suggest you talk to a more knowledgeable source, i.e. a recruiter. If you do end up serving, you really had better learn to chin up and take it, because deployments and risk is what you give in exchange for the respect and financial benefits we citizens give.

Classic post...

Name calling, grammatical errors, the works.

OP should be banned. Even if he is not, he should be too ashamed of himself to show his face (screen name) around here again.

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby john titor » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:10 am

i think the OP and rush limbaugh should pack up and head off to costa rica forever

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby BigFatPanda » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:22 am

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.


More power to your grandfather and your father, but how do their accomplishments have anything to do with you? You didn't go to the service academies and you didn't serve in Vietnam and fought in WW2. So you have Ivy credentials, good for you! But how does that has anything to do with your patriotism?

Another thing, if you want to go to law school, you need to spot the issues at point within any given statement: According to the statement set forth by "anli", his issue is with respect to your "exaggerated sense of entitlement or complaint" (his opinion, i have no comment) and he did give you a honest response as well as a good advice, "learn to chin up and take it". Nowhere in his statement can be interpreted as a criticism on your patriotism (Afterall, sunshine patriots are a type of patriot too :mrgreen: ). Anli is critical about you cherry picking all the benefits while wishing to leave out all the responsibilities that come with it.

According to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31543, there are three ways the military will pay for your law school:
1. You are a commissioned officer and had already served for several years and compete with many other highly qualified officer grade individuals to be one of the 15 candidates to go to law school.
2. You are a prior enlist or a former officer with honorable discharge and a GI bill of some variant.
3. You are attending the airforce Graduate Law Program or OYCP (law school ROTC).

I have no idea about the coast guard because they are a part of Department of Homeland Security and independent of military chain of command during peace time.

Anyway, getting the military to pay for law school is a really bad idea because of the string that comes with it: usually 4 years active and 4 years reserve. What if you found out your first year that you don't like to be in the military? Would you suck it up for the next 7 years? Or would you pack your bags and flee to Canada? Or become a conscientious objector? My advice to you: forget about getting the military to pay for your school.

And, ehmmmm, learn to chin up and take it.

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby big_blue79 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:45 am

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.


I just had to get in on this.

Grammatical and spelling errors. Bragging about pre-K academic achievement. Lame name-calling (unless it's a Curb reference). Not responding to the issue quoted. Using father's and grandfather's achievements as proof of patriotism.

What a great post. 10/10, would read again.

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby BigFatPanda » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:10 am

Cole S. Law wrote:
jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.


Grandfather Navy, Father Air Force, You Coast Guard. Each generation is getting a little softer. If you have a kid he'll have to joing the French Army to keep up the trend.


I think the Airforce people resents that. Oh, don't join the French Foreign Legion, they are not soft because none of them are actually Frenchmen.

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby snake-eater » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:28 am

JMD.USMC wrote:So you don't want to do the military full time


you're not willing to move



and you don't want to deploy.





Why on earth should the military be willing to pay for your law school?



hahah

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:03 am

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby anli » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:03 am

Air Force and Navy ROTC won't pay for law school. Army ROTC will pay for 2 years, but scholarships are competitive (the guaranteed national guard ones are a bit less so).

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby GeckoMD » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:47 pm

jdland2010 wrote:Georgiana,

Yeah, I know most of the medical students go full-time after they complete medical school.

And who really cares if you make $50K coming out...most residents (in the civilian world) only make like $40K after they finish medical school. The residencies are usually between 3-7 years (depending on the type of medicine you want to practice). So after you complete you residency, more than likely you will be done with your service requirement. Then you leave the military with zero loans and ready to make what all the real doctors (post-residency docs) make in the civilian world.

So really gain by being a military doctor.


Some corrections:

1. Residency doesn't count toward commitment. You graduate medical school and then do the military match for a military residency and then you start working off your commitment.
2. Commitment can actually be extended by residency if you select one of the longer ones.
3. The fact that you are in the military can restrict your choices for residency quite a bit. If you want to be a neurosurgeon and the Navy doesn't need one of those right now then you just have to wait around a few more years till they do.

Being a doctor in the military isn't the easy way to pay for medical school. It isn't free money and really makes monetary sense for very very few people. (you need to do it because you want to be a military doctor, not because you want to get money for school) If you want to know more about medical school and the military you can check out the milmed forum on SDN. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=72

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby toolfan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:20 pm

jdland2010 wrote:Thanks for the dumb comments...

Btw, my tone is not offensive--quite frankly your tone is you jerk. My father is a gradaute of the US Air Force Academy (and my grandfather is of the Naval Academy) by the way--so quit judging me you idiot. By the way, I could be a doctor if I had wanted to go in that direction--I'll bet you couldn't--you idiot. I graduated from an ivy-undergrad and I have a ivy-MBA...so yes I have a record of high academic achievement (since pre-K). As for a residency, I would do a military residency--you freaking jerk.

Your an idiot. Quit posting dumb crap on here. Next time you better think before you post some $hit like that on here and accuse me of not being patriotic. My father served in Vietnam and my grandfather in WW2. You are a piece of worthless crap.



Anyone else laugh while reading this?

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby underdawg » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:26 pm

but he could've been a doctor, so he is like mad smart

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Re: Will the military pay for law school??

Postby rulagi » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:40 pm

anli wrote:Air Force and Navy ROTC won't pay for law school. Army ROTC will pay for 2 years, but scholarships are competitive (the guaranteed national guard ones are a bit less so).


But then you'll have to spend time in the Army!!




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