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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:16 pm

A'nold wrote:
betasteve wrote:FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF


Lol, still plugging away right now......and probably will be for the next two weeks straight.

FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING 1L WITH TWO WEEKS TO WORK ON A MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF!

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:43 pm

betasteve wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
A'nold wrote:
betasteve wrote:FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF


Lol, still plugging away right now......and probably will be for the next two weeks straight.

FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING 1L WITH TWO WEEKS TO WORK ON A MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF!

Mine was assigned 2 weeks ago, due in about 2.5 weeks from now. However, it is exceedingly complicated.

We have a semester writing assignment with two separate briefs, the second of which is due on Tuesday. We then combine the two and do the oral arguments. The combined brief is due at the end of March or maybe the ides thereof.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby patrickd139 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:45 pm

mikeytwoshoes wrote:I fucking hate this brief.


Just checking in to let beta know he's not missing anything at OU.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby pandacot » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:06 am

Had a major freak out with my brief.

Downloaded the westlaw software that automatically creates a TOA. Checked software on Thursday. Worked perfectly. Brief was due at 1 on Friday. Boot up software at noon on Friday to create the TOA, and error code pops up. Try opening software a gillion more times and error code every time. 12:45 and I still don't have half of the TOA done. While making TOA, my TOC and formatting for everything goes awry. Go to print thinking my grade is fucked. At print station, student from my class tells me that the brief has been pushed back to being due at 4 p.m. Go to bathroom and clean the shit out of my pants. Hand in brief at 4 with everything complete.

2 Lessons learned. (fixed to account for post below)
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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:33 am

pandacot wrote:Had a major freak out with my brief.

Downloaded the westlaw software that automatically creates a TOA. Checked software on Thursday. Worked perfectly. Brief was due at 1 on Friday. Boot up software at noon on Friday to create the TOA, and error code pops up. Try opening software a gillion more times and error code every time. 12:45 and I still don't have half of the TOA done. While making TOA, my TOC and formatting for everything goes awry. Go to print thinking my grade is fucked. At print station, student from my class tells me that the brief has been pushed back to being due at 4 p.m. Go to bathroom and clean the shit out of my pants. Hand in brief at 4 with everything complete.

Lesson learned.

Brown underwear?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby wannabealonghorn » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:35 pm

Brief sucks and I am getting nervous as deadline approaches.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Danteshek » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:50 pm

I'm very pleased with my brief. I'm pretty sure I'll get an A like last semester. First round of arguments was this morning.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:53 pm

betasteve wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
A'nold wrote:
betasteve wrote:FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF

FUCK YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING 1L WITH TWO WEEKS TO WORK ON A MOTHERFUCKING BRIEF![/b]

Mine was assigned 2 weeks ago, due in about 2.5 weeks from now. However, it is exceedingly complicated.

We have a semester writing assignment with two separate briefs, the second of which is due on Tuesday. We then combine the two and do the oral arguments. The combined brief is due at the end of March or maybe the ides thereof.


Wait, this is what I have to do as well.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby engineer » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:08 am

I don't know what's wrong with all of you, but I think brief writing is a lot of fun. Let's think about this for a minute.. you get to show off your legal writing skills, read extremely relevant case law from the 70s, spend hours upon hours agonizing over minutiae that really don't even matter, and get to compete with 30 other classmates for a limited pool of As. Fuck my life.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:36 am

engineer wrote:I don't know what's wrong with all of you, but I think brief writing is a lot of fun. Let's think about this for a minute.. you get to show off your legal writing skills, read extremely relevant case law from the 70s, spend hours upon hours agonizing over minutiae that really don't even matter, and get to compete with 30 other classmates for a limited pool of As. Fuck my life.


Yeah, not to mention you are competing with those same 30 classmates using the exact same topic, format, and organization and get the same advice about which cases to use and what rules and facts to pull out......

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:06 pm

betasteve wrote:All break, and the only thing I've finished is a decent outline for the first of two issues. I scrapped the fucking brief once already because I didn't like it. Fucking A. I hate this thing.


Yeah, I'm basically starting from scratch as well. I need this grade yet here I am not doing it.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby BobSacamano » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:19 pm

My brief is half of my 4 credit writing credit, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO MOTIVATION to do it. The topic is fairly interesting and I've already written a bunch of crap, I just can't be bothered to fix it so it's somewhat suitable to be turned in.

It's due Friday. HOORAY!

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:28 am

Renzo wrote:I'll mail $100 to anyone who can get the phrase "knee deep in pussy" in their brief.

I just thought of a way in which you could do it and almost get away with it. Use the phrase as persuasive authority assuming your brief involve a dicy civ pro issue.
“D was unable to appear because he was knee deep in pussy.” At oral arguments, you would then say, “Your Honor, my client was knee deep in pussy and only a real douche would hold that against him. Therefore, reverse the decision of the trial court, bitch.”

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:35 am

Appellate Brief Done! Only one oral argument worth 5% separates me from never setting foot in a legal writing classroom again!

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:12 am

--LinkRemoved--

This is the email I sent to about 80 friends and family

Attached is my appellate brief for this semester. The topic is very interesting - the outrageous government conduct defense (technically it's not a defense, rather it's a claim to dismiss an indictment). This doctrine, unlike entrapment, is available to defendants who are predisposed to commit the crime. Unfortunately, the doctrine is basically dead - it hasn't been successfully invoked in the 9th Circuit since United States v. Green in 1971. However, it remains available to the federal courts just in case the government behaves especially badly. I argue that in this case, the government indeed has crossed the threshold into truly outrageous conduct.

My first round of oral argument was this Saturday. If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:42 am

Danteshek wrote:http://www.docstoc.com/docs/29386602/Outrageous-Government-Conduct

This is the email I sent to about 80 friends and family

Attached is my appellate brief for this semester. The topic is very interesting - the outrageous government conduct defense (technically it's not a defense, rather it's a claim to dismiss an indictment). This doctrine, unlike entrapment, is available to defendants who are predisposed to commit the crime. Unfortunately, the doctrine is basically dead - it hasn't been successfully invoked in the 9th Circuit since United States v. Green in 1971. However, it remains available to the federal courts just in case the government behaves especially badly. I argue that in this case, the government indeed has crossed the threshold into truly outrageous conduct.

My first round of oral argument was this Saturday. If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.


I don't get it. :(

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:43 am

chadwick218 wrote:Appellate Brief Done! Only one oral argument worth 5% separates me from never setting foot in a legal writing classroom again!


Congrats! I cannot wait until this day. *a sun beam appears through a separation of dark clouds*

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Herb Watchfell » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:50 am

Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.


I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby prezidentv8 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:50 am

I was really tempted to cite an episode of Seinfeld in mine just to show off the bluebooking skills.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Andrew the Wolverine » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:04 am

I don't even know what an appellate brief is, but I read this thread, and I literally was in pain from laughing after reading how people are being offered $100 to try to put the phrase "knee deep in pussy" into their paper. Effing hilarious whoever had this idea. Reminds me of the time I goofed off on an optionally graded stats exam (two different grading options) in college, and the prof emailed me the next day asking if I was having personal problems and if my exam was me "crying out for help." I got a kick out of that.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:48 am

Herb Watchfell wrote:
Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.


I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.


Post your brief.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:46 am

Danteshek wrote:
Herb Watchfell wrote:
Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.


I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.


Post your brief.


Wait......you were joking right? That's why I said I didn't get it, b/c it was an obvious joke but I was missing it....... :?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:19 am

It was not a joke. I like to share my work with my friends and family. In my last post I used Docstock to link to my brief. The douchbag then commented on my email. I would like to see his brief.

Why are people so insecure that they can't engage in civilized conversation? Why can't people on this forum talk without hiding behind their avatars? My identity is readily available to anyone who looks at my profile.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Herb Watchfell » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:34 am

Danteshek wrote:It was not a joke. I like to share my work with my friends and family. In my last post I used Docstock to link to my brief. The douchbag then commented on my email. I would like to see his brief.


It's as if you're proud of that sack of shit you call a brief, Hornblower.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Postby Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:42 am

I'll let you know when I CALI this class. My draft also was the highest grade.




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