Learning from E&E only (or other supplement) Forum
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Learning from E&E only (or other supplement)
So me and the rest of the class are having a very difficult time following our Property professor. I am considering just studying and taking my notes and outline from the Property E&E.
I'm kind of nervous about this, as I'm not sure I will do to good on the final from getting all my knowledge from and E&E.
So tell me, how stupid is this?
I'm kind of nervous about this, as I'm not sure I will do to good on the final from getting all my knowledge from and E&E.
So tell me, how stupid is this?
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What casebook do you use?
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Terrible idea. Law professors fill lectures with nuances that are necessary to recognize for final exams. At my school, people who do that finish at the median. Median=unemployed.
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Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
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Sometimes I wish Dukenminier and co. hadn't watched the history channel for days on end while drafting the text24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
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thank me when you get your "A"24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
http://www.amazon.com/Gilbert-Law-Summa ... 065&sr=8-2
fantastic commercial outline written by krier... one of the co-authors. use the table of contents in the front to match it to the dukeminier book and profit
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nice.
thanks for the tip
thanks for the tip
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Any good supplement recommendations for the SINGER text?
If you recommend something to me, I promise to thank you when I get my A?
If you recommend something to me, I promise to thank you when I get my A?
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On a semi-unrelated note, can anyone recommend a good supplement for an Intro to Jurisprudence class? I did a search on TLS but didn't find anything.
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How did you manage to miss the 10+ page thread pinned at the top of the Forum for Law Students entitled COMMON 0L QUESTIONS books, study guides, E&Es, studying,etc?caoyun wrote:On a semi-unrelated note, can anyone recommend a good supplement for an Intro to Jurisprudence class? I did a search on TLS but didn't find anything.
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+1 I am using this supplement and it is gold for our casebook.apper123 wrote:thank me when you get your "A"24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
http://www.amazon.com/Gilbert-Law-Summa ... 065&sr=8-2
fantastic commercial outline written by krier... one of the co-authors. use the table of contents in the front to match it to the dukeminier book and profit
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I also had the Dukeminier textbook and bought the Krier supplement. I thought the professor, casebook, and supplement were sometimes inconsistent with each other. For me, using supplements just adds extra reading and makes things more complex, but I know some others feel the opposite way.
My property professor talked a lot about policy in class, and that turned out to be most of the exam. There wasn't so much in a supplement that could help with that. My contracts exam was similar in that the final exam essay was straight out of the class notes (combining cases and professor's personal analysis of them), but that would never show up in a hornbook either.
My property professor talked a lot about policy in class, and that turned out to be most of the exam. There wasn't so much in a supplement that could help with that. My contracts exam was similar in that the final exam essay was straight out of the class notes (combining cases and professor's personal analysis of them), but that would never show up in a hornbook either.
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Anonymous Loser wrote:How did you manage to miss the 10+ page thread pinned at the top of the Forum for Law Students entitled COMMON 0L QUESTIONS books, study guides, E&Es, studying,etc?caoyun wrote:On a semi-unrelated note, can anyone recommend a good supplement for an Intro to Jurisprudence class? I did a search on TLS but didn't find anything.
I didn't miss it, but found nothing to answer my question. On one thread, someone asked the question but never received an answer. If I missed an answer, please feel free to point it out.
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Generally: the worse the professor, the more you should rely on a supplement.
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+1JSUVA2012 wrote:Generally: the worse the professor, the more you should rely on a supplement.
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if you don't mind my asking, how exactly did you use the supplement beyond simply reading it through?apper123 wrote:thank me when you get your "A"24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
http://www.amazon.com/Gilbert-Law-Summa ... 065&sr=8-2
fantastic commercial outline written by krier... one of the co-authors. use the table of contents in the front to match it to the dukeminier book and profit
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Very much agreed, with two exceptions.JSUVA2012 wrote:Generally: the worse the professor, the more you should rely on a supplement.
Exception #1: Civil Procedure - No professor can ever explain it as well as Sir Glannon can in his E&E and Glannon Guide. I loved my Civ Pro teacher, but this book was still vital.
Exception #2: Your professor wrote the supplement. Whether she is a fantastic professor or a terrible professor, use the shit out of that supplement.
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My CivPro professor was tremendous - I barely used the Glannon because I found my professor's explanations to be much clearer. He had his own system of reasoning through certain kinds of problems, and gave us plenty of practice, so I think relying too much on the E&E could have been detrimental.FlightoftheEarls wrote:Exception #1: Civil Procedure - No professor can ever explain it as well as Sir Glannon can in his E&E and Glannon Guide. I loved my Civ Pro teacher, but this book was still vital.
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http://www.amazon.com/Emanuel-Law-Outli ... =1-1-fkmr024secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
I used this and it helped to understand the material but in the end our exam was just RAP.
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I am using the same casebook, and so far the Gilbert's that apper posted is amazing.apper123 wrote:thank me when you get your "A"24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
http://www.amazon.com/Gilbert-Law-Summa ... 065&sr=8-2
fantastic commercial outline written by krier... one of the co-authors. use the table of contents in the front to match it to the dukeminier book and profit
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Read it along with the in-class readings, and then I used it to create my outline. It's important to double check that what you are reading in the supp correlates to what is in the casebook, so you should have your casebook open next to you double checking chapter headings and discussions. Plus they have a helpful table of casebooks in the front of the outline.sanpiero wrote:if you don't mind my asking, how exactly did you use the supplement beyond simply reading it through?apper123 wrote:thank me when you get your "A"24secure wrote:Dukenminier.apper123 wrote:What casebook do you use?
http://www.amazon.com/Gilbert-Law-Summa ... 065&sr=8-2
fantastic commercial outline written by krier... one of the co-authors. use the table of contents in the front to match it to the dukeminier book and profit
I used CALI lessons extensively as well. They seemed to correlate quite well with this casebook. I attribute my A in that class to CALI more than the outline honestly.
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I'm torn about whether do the particular CALI lessons after we get finished with that topic or whether to just save all the lessons until I start preparing for finals. For Contracts, I saved them all to the end, and ended up doing pretty well in that class. I don't know, maybe I would have done better if I had done them consistently throughout the semester.I used CALI lessons extensively as well. They seemed to correlate quite well with this casebook. I attribute my A in that class to CALI more than the outline honestly.
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I think there's enough that you can do both. I did the basic intro lessons starting a bit over halfway through the semester. The week prior to the final I did 3-4 massive property "overall review" lessons they have. Those were great.24secure wrote:I'm torn about whether do the particular CALI lessons after we get finished with that topic or whether to just save all the lessons until I start preparing for finals. For Contracts, I saved them all to the end, and ended up doing pretty well in that class. I don't know, maybe I would have done better if I had done them consistently throughout the semester.I used CALI lessons extensively as well. They seemed to correlate quite well with this casebook. I attribute my A in that class to CALI more than the outline honestly.
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I do all my work from an E&E (or the best supplement available for the class). I do my best to get a hold of an old professor outline, though, and read through it to make sure the supplement hasn't missed anything the professor covered in class. Taken this approach for the last two semesters and it's worked very well, but I've always learned best reading on my own. Assuming your E&E covers everything your professor discusses (seems likely, the Property E&E is good & fairly extensive), I don't see anything stupid about this approach.24secure wrote:So me and the rest of the class are having a very difficult time following our Property professor. I am considering just studying and taking my notes and outline from the Property E&E.
I'm kind of nervous about this, as I'm not sure I will do to good on the final from getting all my knowledge from and E&E.
So tell me, how stupid is this?
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