Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby apper123 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:11 pm

apper123 wrote:Our section is still the only section gradeless in a class (all grades were due yesterday morning and were to be posted immediately afterwards). We've received no word as to why or when we should expect a grade. We've heard rumors, but that's it.

We think(???) there's a decent chance it's posted sometime in the next 50 minutes. We've all been obsessively refreshing the grade site all day long. This is truly sad. My stomach hurts.


Update: professor still hasn't finished grading the exams as of 45 minutes ago. O/U on how long until we see grades? He was in the process of grading them when someone visited him at around 5:30. Monday? February? 2011?

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Postby vanwinkle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:23 pm

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Somehow I missed this when it was originally posted, but as I wait another month for my last two grades, I must say... f'ing brilliant.

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Postby sophie316 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:27 pm

Anyone at NYU got grades? They're due by tomorrow and I still have none.

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Postby legends159 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:37 pm

Finally got all my grades. Was kind of an anticlimactic experience. I always over-hype everything in my mind.

Funny how anxious I was just for a bunch of letters on a screen. But come three months from now and I'll be just as anxious waiting for another set of grades to come out.

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Postby illegalcheeser » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:19 pm

A, A-,A
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Postby sperry » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:55 pm

illegalcheeser wrote:3 grades: A-, A, B-

I honestly don't know how I can go from top ten percent of one class to bottom twenty percent in another, given that I studied them both equally and applied the same amount of energy towards both. I hate multiple choice on law exams.



If I do well on my exams, it will be solely because I dominated multiple choice. I thought I would feel better about the essays, but I didn't.

Policy essays = god damn brewery.

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:59 pm

illegalcheeser wrote:3 grades: A-, A, B-

I honestly don't know how I can go from top ten percent of one class to bottom twenty percent in another, given that I studied them both equally and applied the same amount of energy towards both. I hate multiple choice on law exams.


MC makes this interesting. From my select group of friends that I discuss this information, we found that it was not uncommon to do quite well on 3 exams and poorly on another despite the fact that the material was seemingly equally understood across courses.

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Postby apper123 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:03 am

chadwick218 wrote:
illegalcheeser wrote:3 grades: A-, A, B-

I honestly don't know how I can go from top ten percent of one class to bottom twenty percent in another, given that I studied them both equally and applied the same amount of energy towards both. I hate multiple choice on law exams.


MC makes this interesting. From my select group of friends that I discuss this information, we found that it was not uncommon to do quite well on 3 exams and poorly on another despite the fact that the material was seemingly equally understood across courses.


I did 400 practice MC questions for my Torts final (22 MC questions on the final) and 450 or so for my Property final (30 MC questions). Got an A- and A, but I haven't been able to see the exams yet and see how much of that was due to MC.

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby vanwinkle » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:04 am

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chadwick218 wrote:
illegalcheeser wrote:3 grades: A-, A, B-

I honestly don't know how I can go from top ten percent of one class to bottom twenty percent in another, given that I studied them both equally and applied the same amount of energy towards both. I hate multiple choice on law exams.


MC makes this interesting. From my select group of friends that I discuss this information, we found that it was not uncommon to do quite well on 3 exams and poorly on another despite the fact that the material was seemingly equally understood across courses.


I did 400 practice MC questions for my Torts final (22 MC questions on the final) and 450 or so for my Property final (30 MC questions). Got an A- and A, but I haven't been able to see the exams yet and see how much of that was due to MC.

Were your MC questions straight MC or did you have to explain your answer?

The reason I ask is on one of my exams we had an MC section but were then expected to write a short essay (2-3 paragraphs) explaining our answer, and from the sound of it we could get some credit for a wrong answer if we argued for it well enough. I'd never encountered "MC" questions like that before.

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Postby illegalcheeser » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:07 am

I see how MC can be easier to grade and it's good for some classes. But didn't they say stuff about you know how "there are no right or wrong answers in law; only good arguments"?

To make it worse, the other half of the grade was a subjective issue-spotter with a ridiculously low word limit (like 500-700 words). Can't separate out 100 different grades fairly on a 500-700 limit. IMHO :*( Sure i'd be singing a different story if I got an A/A- :D

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby apper123 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:08 am

vanwinkle wrote:
apper123 wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:
illegalcheeser wrote:3 grades: A-, A, B-

I honestly don't know how I can go from top ten percent of one class to bottom twenty percent in another, given that I studied them both equally and applied the same amount of energy towards both. I hate multiple choice on law exams.


MC makes this interesting. From my select group of friends that I discuss this information, we found that it was not uncommon to do quite well on 3 exams and poorly on another despite the fact that the material was seemingly equally understood across courses.


I did 400 practice MC questions for my Torts final (22 MC questions on the final) and 450 or so for my Property final (30 MC questions). Got an A- and A, but I haven't been able to see the exams yet and see how much of that was due to MC.

Were your MC questions straight MC or did you have to explain your answer?

The reason I ask is on one of my exams we had an MC section but were then expected to write a short essay (2-3 paragraphs) explaining our answer, and from the sound of it we could get some credit for a wrong answer if we argued for it well enough. I'd never encountered "MC" questions like that before.


Straight MC, but they were very difficult, especially the Torts ones. There were several questions with 4 correct answers, and you had to pick the most correct one. Others were just simply on the nth level and you really had to think hard.

The property were about 10 really freaking easy, 10 moderately difficult and 10 super tricky, but none were as tricky as the Torts ones.

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Postby RVP11 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:09 am

illegalcheeser wrote:I see how MC can be easier to grade and it's good for some classes. But didn't they say stuff about you know how "there are no right or wrong answers in law; only good arguments"?


I had one professor admit he was looking for a "right" answer or at least a particular chain of analysis.

And I think other professors have "right" answers in mind more often than they like to admit.

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Postby vanwinkle » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:19 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
illegalcheeser wrote:I see how MC can be easier to grade and it's good for some classes. But didn't they say stuff about you know how "there are no right or wrong answers in law; only good arguments"?


I had one professor admit he was looking for a "right" answer or at least a particular chain of analysis.

And I think other professors have "right" answers in mind more often than they like to admit.

Essentially, there's only "good arguments", and your professor's opinion of what a "good argument" actually is.

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Postby vanwinkle » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:20 am

I love how there still isn't even a Torts heading on the course evaluations page yet. All the Torts professors are conspiring together to keep us from having grades, I swear.

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Postby LoyolaLaw2012 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:56 am

thesealocust wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:I love how there still isn't even a Torts heading on the course evaluations page yet. All the Torts professors are conspiring together to keep us from having grades, I swear.


and OGI bids were due today, lol. Were there sections that didn't have ANY grades?

L'sigh...



FINALLY got Torts back today. I officially have an A- in each class. I'll never be the principal of the line :(

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby underachiever » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:19 am

The longer I wait for grades the more I think I got straight B-s/Cs....then I break into a cold sweat and blackout for a moment...

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Postby thexfactor » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:25 am

underachiever wrote:The longer I wait for grades the more I think I got straight B-s/Cs....then I break into a cold sweat and blackout for a moment...

My school has a really dumb policy of emailing the night before grades are going to come out. The Dean said that grades would come out by 8am the next morning. lol I went to sleep at 12 that night and woke up every 2hrs to check if grades were up:P


What's the point of that? Why not just release them and then send a notifying email. Do they just want to torture us?

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Postby apper123 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:44 am

One of our professors told us some schools dock pay of profs if their grades aren't in on time. Mine doesn't, but some do apparently?

Also, 48 hours past the grade deadline... still the only class without a grade. I really like slamming the refresh button all day on the grades page.

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Postby Lawrence » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:21 am

I wasn't stressing over grades much at all until I got my first two grades back yesterday. Now I'm going crazy waiting for this last one and calculating all the different scenarios of my class rank depending on a high or low grade...sigh

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Postby Snooker » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:36 am

JazzOne wrote:LRLW is the bane of my existence. Graded writing courses FTL.


Definitely. I heard from 2L/3L that sometimes they have the same person grade all the final essays and 1 class gets all As clustered together, the other has all Bs clustered together, etc., for one big section. But since they are all small sections, each one is curved, so the tiny variations among As get turned into 30% As and 70% Bs and the tiny variation among the Bs get curved to be the same. Then employers are given a lot of misleading information about everyone's performance. Some outstanding students that would otherwise be working in federal COA can't even get district court clerkships because of the wacky system.

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Postby Snooker » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:42 am

OperaAttorney wrote:
betasteve wrote:
OperaAttorney wrote:
You should get out more often, Snooker.

During the first week of class, one of my section mates, upon hearing the name of my undergraduate institution, quipped, "So...is that a good school?"

Since then, I've compiled a substantial UT LAW 1L DOUCHEBAG list. It remains unpublished, of course. I only consult it when creating a invitation list for parties.

If the section mates was an Ivy grad, you should have snapped back with yeah.. but at least I jumped UP in brand prestige... (would have to be ok with with slightly dogging UT for not quite being T14)


LOL :).

Despite the feisty reputation I've cultivated on TLS, I can be gracious, buddy :). I felt sorry for him because he was portly, plain of face, and horribly dressed.


I haven't met any of those people. Obviously, you co-mingled with the scum of the earth future personal injury lawyers (they couldn't even be honorable auto accident attorneys)! Most lawyers will go on to be decent people. I think my section got the decent people, and you got stuck with the douchebags.

Still interesting to see no UT students posting grades yet. Everyone else is spilling them out.

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Postby Esc » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:56 pm

Snooker wrote:
OperaAttorney wrote:
betasteve wrote:
OperaAttorney wrote:
You should get out more often, Snooker.

During the first week of class, one of my section mates, upon hearing the name of my undergraduate institution, quipped, "So...is that a good school?"

Since then, I've compiled a substantial UT LAW 1L DOUCHEBAG list. It remains unpublished, of course. I only consult it when creating a invitation list for parties.

If the section mates was an Ivy grad, you should have snapped back with yeah.. but at least I jumped UP in brand prestige... (would have to be ok with with slightly dogging UT for not quite being T14)


LOL :).

Despite the feisty reputation I've cultivated on TLS, I can be gracious, buddy :). I felt sorry for him because he was portly, plain of face, and horribly dressed.


I haven't met any of those people. Obviously, you co-mingled with the scum of the earth future personal injury lawyers (they couldn't even be honorable auto accident attorneys)! Most lawyers will go on to be decent people. I think my section got the decent people, and you got stuck with the douchebags.

Still interesting to see no UT students posting grades yet. Everyone else is spilling them out.


There's nothing inherently wrong about PI lawyers, no more than there is anything inherently wrong with Biglaw partners and/or associates....but there are scumbags among both.

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Postby apper123 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:07 pm

Got my last grade... A!!!!

Good for a 3.88 GPA. On a 3.0 curve... I have to have a shot at being #1 right?

For sure this must mean top 10 % I would think...

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Re: Waiting for 1L grades...so much worse than waiting for LSATs

Postby Esc » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:09 pm

apper123 wrote:Got my last grade... A!!!!

Good for a 3.88 GPA. On a 3.0 curve... I have to have a shot at being #1 right?

For sure this must mean top 10 % I would think...


quiet or Im gonna smack you. Your bubbliness is irritating the oozing sore that is my complete lack of grades.




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