Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby macattaq » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:31 am

That's false though.

The competition for government, NGO, and public interest jobs is pretty stiff, and having that T-14 paper behind your name could be the difference between getting a position and not.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby CE2JD » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:03 pm

I'm droppin out if I'm sub-3.0.

<--- also looking at IP

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby thesealocust » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:18 pm

CE2JD wrote:I'm droppin out if I'm sub-3.0.

<--- also looking at IP


Yeah, because you're totally in danger of being bottom 10% PWNED :roll:

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby Cavalier » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:08 pm

I'm dropping out if my roommate gets higher grades than me.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby thesealocust » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:45 pm

Cavalier wrote:I'm dropping out if any of my roommates get higher grades than me.


Fixed ;)

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby Don Keyhoetee » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:32 pm

Since I'm only at Cornell, if I don't get at least a 3.6, I'm dropping out since that'll rape my chances of transferring to a T10

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby RVP11 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:34 pm

I'll consider transferring if I'm sub-3.0 - so much of that depends on Contracts. :evil:

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:48 pm

JSUVA2012 wrote:I'll consider transferring if I'm sub-3.0 - so much of that depends on Contracts. :evil:

we're curved at a B+ dooder. You've have to perform substantially below curve in every class to go below 3.0

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby fusion » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:01 pm

I think about that more and more each day. I have felt increasingly more confused about my performance on each exam as time goes on. I have thought about cutting my losses and running if I did badly. I feel like it would be humiliating, though.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby superserial » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:27 pm

nope.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:55 pm

I'm going to stick around no matter what. I've sunk too much into this; I have to see it through.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby biggamejames » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:57 pm

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby mallard » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:58 pm

Ah, sunk costs.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby kurama20 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:02 pm

Hell if you're below the top 5 percent at Yale you should really drop out. It's much better to just use your undergrad degree and get work experience in this economy than to get a crappy non Yale law degree (or Yale with a ranking worse than top 5 percent). A JD really isn't a flexible degree like a lot of people think it is; you have much more options with an undergrad degree and no debt than a Columbia one with 120K+ in debt ITE. Half of CLS are not getting jobs this year. Only top 2 percent at Michigan and UVA are getting firm jobs, and only the top 1 percent with Law Review at CDGN are getting jobs this year. You should definitely just drop out OP and get a job in management consulting.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby dresden doll » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:06 pm

kurama20 wrote:Hell if you're below the top 5 percent at Yale you should really drop out. It's much better to just use your undergrad degree and get work experience in this economy than to get a crappy non Yale law degree (or Yale with a ranking worse than top 5 percent). A JD really isn't a flexible degree like a lot of people think it is; you have much more options with an undergrad degree and no debt than a Columbia one with 120K+ in debt ITE. Half of CLS are not getting jobs this year. Only top 2 percent at Michigan and UVA are getting firm jobs, and only the top 1 percent with Law Review at CDGN are getting jobs this year. You should definitely just drop out OP and get a job in management consulting.


JD really isn't all that flexible, actually.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby kurama20 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:12 pm

dresden doll wrote:
kurama20 wrote:Hell if you're below the top 5 percent at Yale you should really drop out. It's much better to just use your undergrad degree and get work experience in this economy than to get a crappy non Yale law degree (or Yale with a ranking worse than top 5 percent). A JD really isn't a flexible degree like a lot of people think it is; you have much more options with an undergrad degree and no debt than a Columbia one with 120K+ in debt ITE. Half of CLS are not getting jobs this year. Only top 2 percent at Michigan and UVA are getting firm jobs, and only the top 1 percent with Law Review at CDGN are getting jobs this year. You should definitely just drop out OP and get a job in management consulting.


JD really isn't all that flexible, actually.


Yeah I know; that's why I think most people should just use their undergrad degrees. Undergrad degrees are very flexible and you don't have to worry about the debt (especially liberal arts undergrad degrees like political science, there is really no limit to what you can do with a BA in Poli Sci.)

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby dresden doll » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:19 pm

kurama20 wrote:
dresden doll wrote:
kurama20 wrote:Hell if you're below the top 5 percent at Yale you should really drop out. It's much better to just use your undergrad degree and get work experience in this economy than to get a crappy non Yale law degree (or Yale with a ranking worse than top 5 percent). A JD really isn't a flexible degree like a lot of people think it is; you have much more options with an undergrad degree and no debt than a Columbia one with 120K+ in debt ITE. Half of CLS are not getting jobs this year. Only top 2 percent at Michigan and UVA are getting firm jobs, and only the top 1 percent with Law Review at CDGN are getting jobs this year. You should definitely just drop out OP and get a job in management consulting.


JD really isn't all that flexible, actually.


Yeah I know; that's why I think most people should just use their undergrad degrees. Undergrad degrees are very flexible and you don't have to worry about the debt (especially liberal arts undergrad degrees like political science, there is really no limit to what you can do with a BA in Poli Sci.)


Spare me the sarcasm. I'm pretty well aware of how 'flexible' a Poli Sci degree is (got one myself, actually) and won't be dropping out of U of C for that exact reason - I know my options would suck a lot more without that JD than with it. That, however, does not invalidate the fact that a) certain other people pursuing the JD (such as, say, engineers) do have valid alternatives to finishing LS no matter what their grades/debt winds up being and b) JD in and of itself isn't that flexible.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:24 pm

Even if I do not finish in the top-half of a T10, I really have no other options ... I somewhat regrettably (at least in the short term) walked away from a six-figure job so I am in this for the long-run!

+1 to Mallard's sunk costs ... b/w the a semester's worth of tuition and foregone wages, I have too much invested at this point!
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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:27 pm

betasteve wrote:If I have bad grades, I'll probably just killself. I mean, what's the point - really.


I will admit that killing myself is much more likely than dropping out ... I have more respect for one who takes their own life than a dropout!

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby Alexandria » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:38 pm

betasteve wrote:If I have bad grades, I'll probably just killself. I mean, what's the point - really.


This is why that's not funny:

http://www.annarbor.com/news/missing-un ... s-suicide/

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby mallard » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:39 pm

Alexandria wrote:
betasteve wrote:If I have bad grades, I'll probably just killself. I mean, what's the point - really.


This is why that's not funny:

http://www.annarbor.com/news/missing-un ... s-suicide/


Yeah. Law not exactly known for a low suicide rate.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby kurama20 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:42 pm

dresden doll wrote:Spare me the sarcasm. I'm pretty well aware of how 'flexible' a Poli Sci degree is (got one myself, actually) and won't be dropping out of U of C for that exact reason - I know my options would suck a lot more without that JD than with it. That, however, does not invalidate the fact that a) certain other people pursuing the JD (such as, say, engineers) do have valid alternatives to finishing LS no matter what their grades/debt winds up being and b) JD in and of itself isn't that flexible.


Relaaaax. I'm just trying to figure out why people think the bolded is some shockingly new bit of information to people on here. Realistically these people who have the undergrad degrees that are very useful aren't the one's flooding law schools. No joke people with engineering undergrad degrees and elite (ivy, Duke, Stanford etc.) undergrad degrees have better options. Besides what the hell happened to all the people who were attending law school because they actually want to be lawyers, it seems like everyone on here has forgot about these endangered specimens.


I find it ridiculous (in the sad sense) that anyone would take their own lives for any reason, let alone over something as truly insignificant as how you do in law school.


When you go around telling people that they suck and are idiots for attending a "TTT" law school, and that you don't see anything other than graduating above median at a "top 5" as worth it, you sort of put yourself in a situation where you have a high chance of writing a check that you just can't cash.

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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:59 pm

betasteve wrote:I find it ridiculous (in the sad sense) that anyone would take their own lives for any reason, let alone over something as truly insignificant as how you do in law school.


Betasteve, I agree with you here ... nevertheless, as with most suicides, as insignificant as the reasons may appear to outsiders, the reasons (even if it be poor performance in law school) are terribly significant to the actor. The final decision is typically a culmination of many other events that occured in one's life and the final reason (as insignificant as it may be) is what ultimately drives the person to the choice that they make. With that said, the Michigan story is tragic! I can't speak for others schools, but so far, I have been unimpressed with the services / counseling available to law students dealing with such significant stress and anxiety.
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Re: Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades?

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:07 pm

superserial wrote:we need puppy therapy!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 9819.story


I think that this is a great idea! Sadly, as I don't have my dogs with me at school, I will have to get in as many walks in the artic cold as possible over the next couple of weeks.
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