Soubds like youre going to have a good summer! Working for the gov is pretty fun. I feel badass hanging in the fed building. It's cool, my research is like looking for one specific legal theory that probably doesn't exist, but I really like my judge and my clerks. I'm her only extern so I get a lot of face time. I share an office with three girls from boalt who are with another judge and I really like them. I think I'll write my first official order soon.. So that's exciting!

That sounds really great!

Yeah it's good so far, three days in. I'm pretty terrified of being slow, sounding stupid, and saying a case should come out differently than my clerk thinks. But that's the way all jobs go I guess. I think later this summer I'll get to work on some cool things like Facebook and stubhub, which will be much more interesting than surviving summary judgment in an equitable estoppel in a debt collection/foreclosure case that I'm researching now.

I'm trying to figure out my schedule for next year. I'm gonna take Civ Pro 2, I can't decide between Moscato and Marcus. I've heard good things about Marcus, but Moscato gave 7% more As. I haven't heard anything about Moscato though, have you guys heard anything?

I've only heard bad things about Marcus, but that was from Civ Pro I.

Sweet, I'll def take Moscato now, decision made.

Not sure, thinking litigation. I'm hoping this summer I'll be exposed to a lot of different things and find my calling.

yep; i've heard bad things about marcus as well.

i don't really know or care. i'm interested in business litigation or transactional work but i'm very flexible. i just want a firm to give me a job and i'll do what they want me to do.

Feldman just opened up research positions for IP if any of you are interested. Trying to get in on that.

i had marcus this year and got a b+, it honestly isn't bad, it's just that class is frustrating because he doesnt answer anything. i don't think i learned anything until a week before the final at which time i studied non stop for 5 days.

im also doing the RA thing for Feldman if the study is as important as she says it is.... i'm hoping it actually helps for OCI, but i have no clue. opinions?

If nothing else, it gives you something to talk about during OCI.

Probably won't help get an interview but if you have grades to get an interview it could be an interesting thing to discuss at the interview or cb

Ranks are out... Blerg.

Joy. Not sure why I'm disappointed other than I just paid $100 for a rejection letter from Stanford. Sad.

holy shit i did even worse than i thought...grade distribution was HIGHER than last year. i don't even...

I know, it really sucks. I did several percentage points lower than I thought. Oh well.

i'm definitely screwed now.

not really sure how the distribution was that high considering we had more students than last year, but whatever. goodbye any dreams of getting anything at OCI.

Why I'm opposed to more grade inflation

soooooooo seeing as im also most likely out at oci.... what happens now?

-_-

I'm ashamed to even try to get OCI interviews. A lot of admissions people are going to be laughing at my transfer applications.

Lasers, jump ship while you still can.

On a different note:

Why are only 403 students part of the rank? Did ~30 students drop out?

Was wondering that too...I guess so? I wasn't aware of more than 1-2 that dropped out from my section...

from the legal employment thread people were mentioning this and it made me wonder about if Hastings had this data:

does Hastings collect OCI data from previous years? like what ranked students got offers, etc? that would be insanely helpful, because everything i've read on this forum suggests that required/preferred gpa is mostly just so your firm doesn't look like it has no standards (that being said, if you have a 3.3 don't apply to a v20 obv lol)

my current strategy since i have decent but not good grades is to 1) apply for the bay area diversity career fair - and specifically bid on firms that A) aren't coming to hastings OCI so this is my main shot at them b) bid for reach firms (all firms are reach lawlz) that i could then re-bid at our OCI and not feel too bad about spending a bid on them.

then 2) at hastings OCI target firms that are top regional cali, v100, or firms that supposedly don't care too much about grades(MoFo, etc.) also, if they have interviews for multiple offices, Phil said that i could indicate on my cover letter that i was interested in all offices bc i was really interested in the firm, or something along those lines. (opinions on that being right?). if that isn't true, then i'll interview for the most unattractive office possible, to increase my chances. Phil also said that even though he tells students that, for some reason Hastings students overwhelmingly bid almost exclusively SF, not even Oakland.... also, if a firm is "preferred 25%" according to Phil, that means that they really entertain people down to median (you most likely wouldn't get hired obv) buuuuut you still have a shot at an interview. if it's "required x" you could still get an interview, but it's a lot more risky

wait, who's phil?

and mofo doesn't care about grades? a hastings counselor mentioned in passing they like top 10% (well obviously, who doesn't...but still she seemed to indicate that they were pretty grade selective) so i'm curious as to how low they'll go.

i'll look into whether or not hastings has the grades of people that got offers (and from who).