UVA Class of 2014

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby bk1 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:04 pm

YCrevolution wrote:I'd have to look, but there aren't too many CA firms that do OCI at UVA. From what I remember, just some of the big national firms with large Bay Area offices. If you want California and don't have strong ties to it, you're better off going to one of the T20 CA schools IMO.


I'm a CA lifer who has a decent shot at UVa but almost none at UCLA/USC (read: supersplitter). My hope is that if I end up at UVa that mass mailing with my ties can help me snag interviews with CA, mainly NorCal, firms.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby billyez » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:58 pm

upalittletoolate wrote:Got my call today! In at UVA ED!! :D


Congrats!

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby sherpaorlawschool » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:58 pm

bk1 wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:I'd have to look, but there aren't too many CA firms that do OCI at UVA. From what I remember, just some of the big national firms with large Bay Area offices. If you want California and don't have strong ties to it, you're better off going to one of the T20 CA schools IMO.


I'm a CA lifer who has a decent shot at UVa but almost none at UCLA/USC (read: supersplitter). My hope is that if I end up at UVa that mass mailing with my ties can help me snag interviews with CA, mainly NorCal, firms.


The NALP directory of legal employers has 63 firms from California doing OCI at UVA. 16 are in Los Angeles with 6 more in Irvine and few more in OC outside of Irvine. That should give some idea of what it looks like in SoCal. SF has 14 and Palo Alto 11 for NorCal. Can't speak for how good this is or how much success UVA grads have with California but I have heard that California is the 3rd most popular destination after NY and DC.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby justadude55 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:35 pm

bk1 wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:I'd have to look, but there aren't too many CA firms that do OCI at UVA. From what I remember, just some of the big national firms with large Bay Area offices. If you want California and don't have strong ties to it, you're better off going to one of the T20 CA schools IMO.


I'm a CA lifer who has a decent shot at UVa but almost none at UCLA/USC (read: supersplitter). My hope is that if I end up at UVa that mass mailing with my ties can help me snag interviews with CA, mainly NorCal, firms.


how can you have a better shot at UVA than UCLA/USC?

The medians for GPA are higher at both UVA (slightly) and LSAT (by about 2 points) than at USC.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby Stringer Bell » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:44 pm

justadude55 wrote:how can you have a better shot at UVA than UCLA/USC?

The medians for GPA are higher at both UVA (slightly) and LSAT (by about 2 points) than at USC.


UVA is friendlier to mega splitters.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby CGI Fridays » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:49 pm

So already there's been a 170/3.0-3.5 ED go to waitlist.

Anyone know from last year when the floodgates on 170 start tightening?
'cause they tighten quite a bit: http://uva.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0 ... Cycle=1011

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby CaliMizzou » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:38 am

Really? All the 170/3.0-3.5's I've seen have been admitted. (I did see a 170/3.25 get waitlisted)

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Postby 005618502 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:07 am

CaliMizzou wrote:Really? All the 170/3.0-3.5's I've seen have been admitted. (I did see a 170/3.25 get waitlisted)


So then all of them didnt get admitted....

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby CaliMizzou » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:16 am

jt1341 wrote:
CaliMizzou wrote:Really? All the 170/3.0-3.5's I've seen have been admitted. (I did see a 170/3.25 get waitlisted)


So then all of them didnt get admitted....


Yeah that would be that wouldn't it......Definite fail on my part. :(

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby RVP11 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:50 am

sherpaorlawschool wrote:
bk1 wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:I'd have to look, but there aren't too many CA firms that do OCI at UVA. From what I remember, just some of the big national firms with large Bay Area offices. If you want California and don't have strong ties to it, you're better off going to one of the T20 CA schools IMO.


I'm a CA lifer who has a decent shot at UVa but almost none at UCLA/USC (read: supersplitter). My hope is that if I end up at UVa that mass mailing with my ties can help me snag interviews with CA, mainly NorCal, firms.


The NALP directory of legal employers has 63 firms from California doing OCI at UVA. 16 are in Los Angeles with 6 more in Irvine and few more in OC outside of Irvine. That should give some idea of what it looks like in SoCal. SF has 14 and Palo Alto 11 for NorCal. Can't speak for how good this is or how much success UVA grads have with California but I have heard that California is the 3rd most popular destination after NY and DC.


Just off the top of my head, here were the notable California-based firms at OGI:

Morrison & Foerster
Wilson Sonsini
Gibson Dunn
O'Melveny & [deleted] (admittedly, only for Century City)
Latham & Watkins
Paul Hastings
Pillsbury
Fenwick & West
Cooley

Also consider the fact that firms like Jones Day come to interview for all of their offices.

The only big-time California firms who don't come are Munger, Irell, and Quinn Emanuel. But 90% of the class has basically no shot at Munger and Irell, so the only firm that strikes me as a notable "miss" is Quinn Emanuel (who doesn't come for their NY office, either).

I think UVA is the right choice over UCLA/USC, especially for someone who has California ties. Screening interviews with California firms are very easy to get - I used 11 bids on California firms and received 10 preselect and alternate interviews without stellar grades, other credentials, or even solid ties to California.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby 005618502 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:28 pm

RVP11 wrote:
sherpaorlawschool wrote:
bk1 wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:I'd have to look, but there aren't too many CA firms that do OCI at UVA. From what I remember, just some of the big national firms with large Bay Area offices. If you want California and don't have strong ties to it, you're better off going to one of the T20 CA schools IMO.


I'm a CA lifer who has a decent shot at UVa but almost none at UCLA/USC (read: supersplitter). My hope is that if I end up at UVa that mass mailing with my ties can help me snag interviews with CA, mainly NorCal, firms.


The NALP directory of legal employers has 63 firms from California doing OCI at UVA. 16 are in Los Angeles with 6 more in Irvine and few more in OC outside of Irvine. That should give some idea of what it looks like in SoCal. SF has 14 and Palo Alto 11 for NorCal. Can't speak for how good this is or how much success UVA grads have with California but I have heard that California is the 3rd most popular destination after NY and DC.


Just off the top of my head, here were the notable California-based firms at OGI:

Morrison & Foerster
Wilson Sonsini
Gibson Dunn
O'Melveny & [deleted] (admittedly, only for Century City)
Latham & Watkins
Paul Hastings
Pillsbury
Fenwick & West
Cooley

Also consider the fact that firms like Jones Day come to interview for all of their offices.

The only big-time California firms who don't come are Munger, Irell, and Quinn Emanuel. But 90% of the class has basically no shot at Munger and Irell, so the only firm that strikes me as a notable "miss" is Quinn Emanuel (who doesn't come for their NY office, either).

I think UVA is the right choice over UCLA/USC, especially for someone who has California ties. Screening interviews with California firms are very easy to get - I used 11 bids on California firms and received 10 preselect and alternate interviews without stellar grades, other credentials, or even solid ties to California.


This is great to hear. I am origionally from CA, family all still lives there, just doing undergrad in Texas. I would REALLY love to end up back in CA. I dont know if you know, but were many offices there from the Irvine/OC area?

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby YCrevolution » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:04 pm

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby bk1 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:13 pm

RVP11 wrote:Just off the top of my head, here were the notable California-based firms at OGI:

Morrison & Foerster
Wilson Sonsini
Gibson Dunn
O'Melveny & [deleted] (admittedly, only for Century City)
Latham & Watkins
Paul Hastings
Pillsbury
Fenwick & West
Cooley

Also consider the fact that firms like Jones Day come to interview for all of their offices.

The only big-time California firms who don't come are Munger, Irell, and Quinn Emanuel. But 90% of the class has basically no shot at Munger and Irell, so the only firm that strikes me as a notable "miss" is Quinn Emanuel (who doesn't come for their NY office, either).

I think UVA is the right choice over UCLA/USC, especially for someone who has California ties. Screening interviews with California firms are very easy to get - I used 11 bids on California firms and received 10 preselect and alternate interviews without stellar grades, other credentials, or even solid ties to California.


This is good to hear. Thanks for the info.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby justadude55 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:28 pm

jt1341 wrote:
CaliMizzou wrote:Really? All the 170/3.0-3.5's I've seen have been admitted. (I did see a 170/3.25 get waitlisted)


So then all of them didnt get admitted....


no, then all the 170/3.25's didn't get admitted :-)

on the LSN chart, they seem to be pretty obsessed with 170 vs. 169. more so than any other single point at any school I've seen. However, how reliable are these charts? Does LSAC or the law schools state they have value?

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby 005618502 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:39 pm

justadude55 wrote:
jt1341 wrote:
CaliMizzou wrote:Really? All the 170/3.0-3.5's I've seen have been admitted. (I did see a 170/3.25 get waitlisted)


So then all of them didnt get admitted....


no, then all the 170/3.25's didn't get admitted :-)

on the LSN chart, they seem to be pretty obsessed with 170 vs. 169. more so than any other single point at any school I've seen. However, how reliable are these charts? Does LSAC or the law schools state they have value?


No, anyone can post whatever they want on LSN, self reported. And not even close to all the applicants use it, so it is not as useful as many people on this form make it out to be

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby Stringer Bell » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:33 am

justadude55 wrote:
on the LSN chart, they seem to be pretty obsessed with 170 vs. 169. more so than any other single point at any school I've seen. However, how reliable are these charts? Does LSAC or the law schools state they have value?


It's self reported, but the charts paint a decent picture. Plenty of schools draw a big cut off line at the median. Look at last year's graph for UGA, IU-B, Northwestern, etc. It's not real tough to guess the median.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby Doritos » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:47 am

The median is posted each year. It was 170 two years ago, it was 170 last year and its going to 170 again next year. UVa seems wholly uninterested in boosting their stats. 3.85/170 for life

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby 005618502 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:53 am

Doritos wrote:The median is posted each year. It was 170 two years ago, it was 170 last year and its going to 170 again next year. UVa seems wholly uninterested in boosting their stats. 3.85/170 for life


They have rediculously high medians, but they will rise eventually

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby esq » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:20 am

YCrevolution wrote:
Xaintes wrote:For those posting that are already at UVA Law, did you buy the computer bundle sold by the school, or did you just get your own? What would you recommend?

I'd say a majority of TLSers buy their own computer. If you want a Macbook, the school's bundle isn't too bad. If you want a Windows machine, it makes more sense to buy your own.


I am also debating whether UVA's Mac bundle is worth it. Any opinion or idea about whether UVA's bundle is better than getting a Lenovo ThinkPad t410 (I think that even the i7's are cheaper than the current UVA Mac bundle when on sale)? Which gives more bang for the buck, the durable ThinkPad, or the ostensibly virus free Mac? Oh, and how is the IT help desk at actually helping students who purchase one of their bundles when they have problems? Any input would on this would be great, I am thinking that It'll come down to one of these two machines for me.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby 005618502 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:49 pm

esq wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:
Xaintes wrote:For those posting that are already at UVA Law, did you buy the computer bundle sold by the school, or did you just get your own? What would you recommend?

I'd say a majority of TLSers buy their own computer. If you want a Macbook, the school's bundle isn't too bad. If you want a Windows machine, it makes more sense to buy your own.


I am also debating whether UVA's Mac bundle is worth it. Any opinion or idea about whether UVA's bundle is better than getting a Lenovo ThinkPad t410 (I think that even the i7's are cheaper than the current UVA Mac bundle when on sale)? Which gives more bang for the buck, the durable ThinkPad, or the ostensibly virus free Mac? Oh, and how is the IT help desk at actually helping students who purchase one of their bundles when they have problems? Any input would on this would be great, I am thinking that It'll come down to one of these two machines for me.


Where did you find the macbook bundle offer?

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby im_blue » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:07 pm

jt1341 wrote:
esq wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:
Xaintes wrote:For those posting that are already at UVA Law, did you buy the computer bundle sold by the school, or did you just get your own? What would you recommend?

I'd say a majority of TLSers buy their own computer. If you want a Macbook, the school's bundle isn't too bad. If you want a Windows machine, it makes more sense to buy your own.


I am also debating whether UVA's Mac bundle is worth it. Any opinion or idea about whether UVA's bundle is better than getting a Lenovo ThinkPad t410 (I think that even the i7's are cheaper than the current UVA Mac bundle when on sale)? Which gives more bang for the buck, the durable ThinkPad, or the ostensibly virus free Mac? Oh, and how is the IT help desk at actually helping students who purchase one of their bundles when they have problems? Any input would on this would be great, I am thinking that It'll come down to one of these two machines for me.


Where did you find the macbook bundle offer?

http://www.uvastudentcomputers.com/shop_law.asp

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby 005618502 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:17 pm

Thank you, which do most people suggest the Dell or the Mac? I am suprised to see the Dell being more expensive. It is just based off of preference?

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby CGI Fridays » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:50 pm

Doritos wrote:The median...It was 170 two years ago, it was 170 last year and its going to 170 again next year. UVa seems wholly uninterested in boosting their stats...

... something's telling me they target their current cycle's median based on last year's rate of admits over the median who attended vs. withdrew... If they could bump it to 171 without giving the shirt off their back via schollies or small classes sizes I have a sneaking suspicion they would.

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Re: UVA Class of 2014

Postby uvahooo » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:16 am

Anyone looking for a place to live next year?

I have a 1BR/1BA that I am renting right now that will be available in Arlington Court sometime in late June. It is tough to get these apartments... I tried getting one off of craigslist last year and it was gone the next day in Arlington... I was lucky I found this one.

Rent is about $700.00... I don't know if my landlord will raise the rent.

But: I am buying a place in cville with my financee (to be hubby) next year. TLS has helped me so much I just thought I might let you know!

If you want more info. PM me.




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