NoDayButToday wrote:4 thoughts:
2. That said, I don't think it sounds like you've bombed OCI at all. You have callbacks! Prepare and practice for those interviews. Do an honest debrief with yourself of the interviews that did not go well, and don't repeat those mistakes. Put all you can into landing a position at one of those firms! Plenty of people go to other firms besides where they summered, or lateral to another firm after a year or two of practice. If you are dead-set, 100% committed to biglaw or bust, don't be disheartened if you're not ending up at the firm you want to be long-term right away.
3. FWIW before I transferred to NYU, I got my Boston biglaw summer associate position mass-mailing. It was the firm I wanted to work for. I did not participate in OCI at either my 1L school (a school ranked similarly to Fordham where I was top 10% first semester, top 20% by end of 1L), nor did I participate in EIW at NYU when I transferred. OCI does not have to be the most important part of law school. If the callbacks don't go well, I agree with folks who say to mass-mail and seek clerkships. I also wouldn't underestimate the experience you could get in medium-sized or even small/boutique law firms.
4. You shouldn't just transfer for OCI. You have to have other compelling reasons--for yourself and your enjoyment of your remaining two years of law school. Transferring is not easy. The first semester you arrive and all the returning students already have their tight-knit cliques, but you don't know anyone and you have to make new friends. I found 2L fall as a transfer student very lonely and isolating. I transferred because NYU is strong in the area in which I wanted to specialize--I spent two years immersing in my field specialization and not only did I gain strong foundations/experience in my field, but the community came, too. It made for a satisfying and enriching two years. When I talked to others who transferred about how happy they were with their decision to transfer, only a few people were unhappy/dissatisfied. But the common thread among those few who were was that they came only for OCI/EIW. I would only transfer if you plan to make the most of the full two year experience. You'd be paying way too much money and spending way too much time to be only focused on the first month or so of it.
Edit: Re: #2, sorry just realized you did already have the callbacks. Wishing you the best with the last one to hear from and if it doesn't work out, don't lose heart. I stand by the rest of my advice.
Re 1: I actually do have some health issues that might require surgery. They're not usually the kind that require extended time off but they would make a convenient and semi-valid excuse.
Re 2: Got rejected on the first callback. The second firm only extends one offer and my interview was two weeks ago. If I was going to get an offer, it almost certainly would have happened by now. I'm thinking about sending them a followup just so that I don't end up withdrawing or doing a masters and then getting the offer when it's too late to get back in. It's not a firm I'd care to work for but beggars can't be choosers and all that.
Re 3: I've had one bite with mass-mailing and that landed me a screener during OCIs. I've been doing this but career services was pretty candid about almost nobody actually landing anything from a big firm at this point. I have two weeks before I have to make a decision about withdrawing or not so I'll be doing a lot of this and followups with the firms I already mailed. Unfortunately the numbers are very grim for this.
For the clerkships, I worry about getting pigeonholed into doing litigation or similar work. My interests are solely transactional. I'd be miserable doing much else. After talking with a lot of people, I've had people shocked I went into law instead of consulting or something along those lines.
For the midsized firms and small firms, I worry about three things. I don't see myself ever being able to pay back loans on those kinds of salaries. Second, I worry that the kind of work I'd enjoy doing isn't readily available at most of these firms. Third, I think that that would really cut off growth potential. My cousin (GC at F500 company, hasn't been any help tbh) says she only hires in house counsel from big firm castoffs. So unless I can work up the ranks it cuts off my ideal long-term career goal.
Re 4: To be honest, I'd be miserable being one of the people not going to a big firm, especially when so many of my friends ended up there. My social circle at Fordham isn't the greatest as it is. I don't think I'd lose a heck of a lot from moving to a new school. And, at this point, I'm leaning towards taking a year off doing a masters program or something, then trying OCIs again.